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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    McLennan gone.

    Board voted him out as chairman.

    https://twitter.com/tomdecent/status/1726198904772010205

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    @KiwiMurph said in Aussie Rugby:

    McLennan gone.

    Board voted him out as chairman.

    https://twitter.com/tomdecent/status/1726198904772010205

    Good riddance fuckwit. I'd do it again

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      https://www.rugby.com.au/news/rugby-australia-announces-daniel-herbert-as-new-chair-as-hamish-mclennan-steps-down-20231119

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        Geoff's take. Interesting comment in there too

        RA is left with two highly inexperienced administrators, with no real business leadership experience between them, walking a financial tight rope, upcoming TV rights negotiations and major reforms desperately needed.

        More good rugby men running a pro business. Basically what NZR report said we need to get away from. I don't know what experience those two have but I'd it enough?

        Apparently RA had lost a minor sponsored and Cadbury is on the way out, too

        What a mess before a potential golden period. Now that's looking more like an orange time for Ozzie 😞
        https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/11/19/analysis-mclennans-fatal-blind-spot-and-why-his-exit-leaves-australian-rugby-in-a-better-place-and-a-worse-one/

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          What do the states do now?

          They got what they wanted. Does this mean them fall in behind the centralisation model now?

          Lol, fat chance

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          • NTAN NTA

            What do the states do now?

            They got what they wanted. Does this mean them fall in behind the centralisation model now?

            Lol, fat chance

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            @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

            What do the states do now?

            They got what they wanted. Does this mean them fall in behind the centralisation model now?

            Lol, fat chance

            Maybe RA will offer something beyond give us everything and we'll sort it?

            But mmmm, who knows

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            • M Machpants

              @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

              What do the states do now?

              They got what they wanted. Does this mean them fall in behind the centralisation model now?

              Lol, fat chance

              Maybe RA will offer something beyond give us everything and we'll sort it?

              But mmmm, who knows

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              @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

              Maybe RA will offer something beyond give us everything and we'll sort it?

              The proposal was to align high performance under a centralised model with a number of areas highlighted for integration.

              Yes, the precise details are still to be worked out, but you need the stakeholders around a table to work out exactly how it functions, after everyone has agreed in principle.

              The alternative is to spend time providing a detailed model with no consultation, and then let each state spend more time picking apart the bits they don't like. Thus spending more time to get nowhere.

              None of the states is particularly sustainable or profitable, and duplicating functions across each office and RA is a waste of money.

              Get the bits than can be aligned into the agreement, and quickly, in order to make the operation lean.

              Agile!

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              • NTAN NTA

                @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                Maybe RA will offer something beyond give us everything and we'll sort it?

                The proposal was to align high performance under a centralised model with a number of areas highlighted for integration.

                Yes, the precise details are still to be worked out, but you need the stakeholders around a table to work out exactly how it functions, after everyone has agreed in principle.

                The alternative is to spend time providing a detailed model with no consultation, and then let each state spend more time picking apart the bits they don't like. Thus spending more time to get nowhere.

                None of the states is particularly sustainable or profitable, and duplicating functions across each office and RA is a waste of money.

                Get the bits than can be aligned into the agreement, and quickly, in order to make the operation lean.

                Agile!

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                @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                Agile!

                Fingers crossed

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                  NTA
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                  lol here we go

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                    There was no "campaign" mate. We just watched you make an utter fool of yourself.

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                      loool

                      smear you? all that took was to repeat the shit you yourself said champ

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                        He's like a populist politician. Next he'll be claiming that the board vote to oust him was rigged

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          loool

                          smear you? all that took was to repeat the shit you yourself said champ

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                          @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

                          loool

                          smear you? all that took was to repeat the shit you yourself said champ

                          "Hi Hamish - did you get that shipment of rope yet? Make sure you've got enough eh?"

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                            https://omny.fm/shows/ben-fordham-full-show/exclusive-rugby-australia-boss-breaks-silence-afte

                            LIsten to him deliberately not answer questions.

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                            • antipodeanA antipodean

                              https://omny.fm/shows/ben-fordham-full-show/exclusive-rugby-australia-boss-breaks-silence-afte

                              LIsten to him deliberately not answer questions.

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                              @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

                              LIsten to him deliberately not answer questions.

                              Classic Hamish

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                                KiwiMurph
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                                Geoff Parkes sums things up well

                                Incredibly, offered a lifeline by his board on Saturday, another 24 hours to show why he should be retained as chair, McLennan reverted to type, and sealed his own fate.
                                
                                If there was ever a moment where he needed to show contrition and some ability to be able to bring rugby’s stakeholders together, McLennan, already in a huge hole, chose to keep digging, urging state representatives to move against their own boards, as punishment for their ‘disloyalty’. He couldn’t see it, but he was merely doing the state’s work for them, proving their point.
                                
                                It might be one thing for McLennan to be at war with some states, electing to go to an EGM determined to bulldoze his way through, but it’s another thing to drag all of the board into the impossible position where they would have to justify and validate his enmity, as central figures in a war none of them ever wanted to be part of.
                                

                                https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/11/19/analysis-mclennans-fatal-blind-spot-and-why-his-exit-leaves-australian-rugby-in-a-better-place-and-a-worse-one/

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  Geoff Parkes sums things up well

                                  Incredibly, offered a lifeline by his board on Saturday, another 24 hours to show why he should be retained as chair, McLennan reverted to type, and sealed his own fate.
                                  
                                  If there was ever a moment where he needed to show contrition and some ability to be able to bring rugby’s stakeholders together, McLennan, already in a huge hole, chose to keep digging, urging state representatives to move against their own boards, as punishment for their ‘disloyalty’. He couldn’t see it, but he was merely doing the state’s work for them, proving their point.
                                  
                                  It might be one thing for McLennan to be at war with some states, electing to go to an EGM determined to bulldoze his way through, but it’s another thing to drag all of the board into the impossible position where they would have to justify and validate his enmity, as central figures in a war none of them ever wanted to be part of.
                                  

                                  https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/11/19/analysis-mclennans-fatal-blind-spot-and-why-his-exit-leaves-australian-rugby-in-a-better-place-and-a-worse-one/

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                                  @KiwiMurph echo echo echo...

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                                    And now of course, there are those who want the Board sacked as well.

                                    Dunno if that is more a help than a hindrance. But they weren't the individual out taking potshots at all and sundry.

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                                      Everyone knows successful sportsmen make excellent administrators.

                                      https://twitter.com/tomdecent/status/1726209484396396554

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                                        It's a fine balance. Many people in the RA building have never been involved in rugby prior to their appointment. That isn't ideal, either.

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                                        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                          @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                                          @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:

                                          They have some money. Enough to pay pretty nicely.

                                          And ultimately it's still a prestige job. You'd be coming in at rock bottom with a Lions tour and home World Cup on the horizon. It's not the worst sales pitch.

                                          Exactly - if expectations are "better than 2023" then you can't lose!

                                          Once you've had an international coaching gig, getting another one is easier. Like being a CEO: you can be the biggest fuckup in the room, but you've still got that on your resume so C-suite jobs are much easier.

                                          Which I've never understood

                                          If you failed you were obviously in over your head

                                          What makes organisations think that the drowning man/woman learned to swim whilst he/she was drowning

                                          Madness

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                                          @MiketheSnow said in Aussie Rugby:

                                          @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                                          @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:

                                          They have some money. Enough to pay pretty nicely.

                                          And ultimately it's still a prestige job. You'd be coming in at rock bottom with a Lions tour and home World Cup on the horizon. It's not the worst sales pitch.

                                          Exactly - if expectations are "better than 2023" then you can't lose!

                                          Once you've had an international coaching gig, getting another one is easier. Like being a CEO: you can be the biggest fuckup in the room, but you've still got that on your resume so C-suite jobs are much easier.

                                          Which I've never understood

                                          If you failed you were obviously in over your head

                                          What makes organisations think that the drowning man/woman learned to swim whilst he/she was drowning

                                          Madness

                                          Not that I'm saying that it's right, but CEO's are about their network more than anything else. Ability to pick up a phone to somebody else in a similar position and know they will take your call.

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