Aussie Pro Rugby
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
They have some money. Enough to pay pretty nicely.
And ultimately it's still a prestige job. You'd be coming in at rock bottom with a Lions tour and home World Cup on the horizon. It's not the worst sales pitch.
Exactly - if expectations are "better than 2023" then you can't lose!
Once you've had an international coaching gig, getting another one is easier. Like being a CEO: you can be the biggest fuckup in the room, but you've still got that on your resume so C-suite jobs are much easier.
Which I've never understood
If you failed you were obviously in over your head
What makes organisations think that the drowning man/woman learned to swim whilst he/she was drowning
Madness
@MiketheSnow said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
They have some money. Enough to pay pretty nicely.
And ultimately it's still a prestige job. You'd be coming in at rock bottom with a Lions tour and home World Cup on the horizon. It's not the worst sales pitch.
Exactly - if expectations are "better than 2023" then you can't lose!
Once you've had an international coaching gig, getting another one is easier. Like being a CEO: you can be the biggest fuckup in the room, but you've still got that on your resume so C-suite jobs are much easier.
Which I've never understood
If you failed you were obviously in over your head
What makes organisations think that the drowning man/woman learned to swim whilst he/she was drowning
Madness
Not that I'm saying that it's right, but CEO's are about their network more than anything else. Ability to pick up a phone to somebody else in a similar position and know they will take your call.
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https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/11/20/rugby-australia-boss-ousted-in-extraordinary-late-night-meeting/
And he's gone. Daniel Herbert is next man up
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@Tim I read that earlier and tend to agree. One of the problems I had with Hamist when he came in was his confrontational manner, which I always had the impression was to show the Aussie rugby public he wasn't going to be pushed around? He did it in press and it got lapped up by some, and why I always thought he was a bit of a publicity hound, and that was way of operating. I thought the same when he kept waving red flag at League, (a game I don't like etc) ,but I just thought a lot of it was not best prctice.
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@Tim I read that earlier and tend to agree. One of the problems I had with Hamist when he came in was his confrontational manner, which I always had the impression was to show the Aussie rugby public he wasn't going to be pushed around? He did it in press and it got lapped up by some, and why I always thought he was a bit of a publicity hound, and that was way of operating. I thought the same when he kept waving red flag at League, (a game I don't like etc) ,but I just thought a lot of it was not best prctice.
@Dan54 said in Aussie Rugby:
@Tim I read that earlier and tend to agree. One of the problems I had with Hamist when he came in was his confrontational manner, which I always had the impression was to show the Aussie rugby public he wasn't going to be pushed around? He did it in press and it got lapped up by some, and why I always thought he was a bit of a publicity hound, and that was way of operating. I thought the same when he kept waving red flag at League, (a game I don't like etc) ,but I just thought a lot of it was not best prctice.
Publicity hound is right. Bloke was addicted to media. He's done at least five 'tell all' interviews since the World Cup, and even after being voted out he did multiple radio interviews. I think being open to talking to media is good but there's a tipping point somewhere.
Hamish wanted to be seen as the big man who made the big calls. And he wanted to be celebrated when it went right (World Cup bids) but avoid criticism when it went wrong (Eddie).
It always works until it doesn't and I'm surprised he didn't realise that. But people like Hamish never realise that. They never understand the idea that it might be good to exit stage left and give someone else a turn. They think the whole thing lives and dies with them.
Had he left after the World Cup, I think he would be viewed differently. People would respect the balls to make the big calls, and resign when the biggest call didn't work out. Instead he hung on, insisting we needed him and it was all a witch hunt from jaded losers who were out to get him. It was sad.
The fact the board decision was unanimous was the final, brutal nail in the coffin. He lived by the sword and by god he died by it.
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i reckon he really wants to be Peter V'Landys. But Pete is way more ruthless.
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All the physical attributes required. None of the sense.
I was at a Waratahs function earlier this year, and he was there along with others. He basically said if they brought in the proposed below-sternum tackling, he'd quit.
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
All the physical attributes required. None of the sense.
I was at a Waratahs function earlier this year, and he was there along with others. He basically said if they brought in the proposed below-sternum tackling, he'd quit.
Proving my point above. League is calling.
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Rugby Australia has been dealt another sizeable blow, with Harvey Norman opting not to renew its three-year sponsorship of Super Rugby.
The news was confirmed by chairperson Gerry Harvey on Thursday, with the company shifting its sports sponsorship focus elsewhere.
"What we do is, we do whatever sport for a while; we don't necessarily hang on to it forever," Harvey told the Sydney Morning Herald.
"So we move around on different sports so we're very heavy into sport advertising that we don't necessarily stay with the one sport forever.The full article is on ESPN. I'm surprised that McLennan's head hasn't exploded yet with his own self-importance based on his comments later in the article. He certainly knows how to market himself. What a muppet.
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@Dan54 said in Aussie Rugby:
@Tim I read that earlier and tend to agree. One of the problems I had with Hamist when he came in was his confrontational manner, which I always had the impression was to show the Aussie rugby public he wasn't going to be pushed around? He did it in press and it got lapped up by some, and why I always thought he was a bit of a publicity hound, and that was way of operating. I thought the same when he kept waving red flag at League, (a game I don't like etc) ,but I just thought a lot of it was not best prctice.
Publicity hound is right. Bloke was addicted to media. He's done at least five 'tell all' interviews since the World Cup, and even after being voted out he did multiple radio interviews. I think being open to talking to media is good but there's a tipping point somewhere.
Hamish wanted to be seen as the big man who made the big calls. And he wanted to be celebrated when it went right (World Cup bids) but avoid criticism when it went wrong (Eddie).
It always works until it doesn't and I'm surprised he didn't realise that. But people like Hamish never realise that. They never understand the idea that it might be good to exit stage left and give someone else a turn. They think the whole thing lives and dies with them.
Had he left after the World Cup, I think he would be viewed differently. People would respect the balls to make the big calls, and resign when the biggest call didn't work out. Instead he hung on, insisting we needed him and it was all a witch hunt from jaded losers who were out to get him. It was sad.
The fact the board decision was unanimous was the final, brutal nail in the coffin. He lived by the sword and by god he died by it.
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
.Had he left after the World Cup, I think he would be viewed differently. People would respect the balls to make the big calls, and resign when the biggest call didn't work out. Instead he hung on, insisting we needed him and it was all a witch hunt from jaded losers who were out to get him. It was sad.
Has his redundancy package been published? That'll be why he didn't resign.
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Wow, just wow. A Eur1M agreement that was ORAL ONLY WTAF? Amateur hour.
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Wow, just wow. A Eur1M agreement that was ORAL ONLY WTAF? Amateur hour.
@nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:
Wow, just wow. A Eur1M agreement that was ORAL ONLY WTAF? Amateur hour.
This is the type of business guy the governance review reckons we need more of in NZ ...
