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    @Tim I read that earlier and tend to agree. One of the problems I had with Hamist when he came in was his confrontational manner, which I always had the impression was to show the Aussie rugby public he wasn't going to be pushed around? He did it in press and it got lapped up by some, and why I always thought he was a bit of a publicity hound, and that was way of operating. I thought the same when he kept waving red flag at League, (a game I don't like etc) ,but I just thought a lot of it was not best prctice.

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      “The next couple of months is important putting the foundations in. We keep looking for a sugar hit, it’s just not coming,” Herbert said.

      Looks like new boss has a few brain cells, only took 20 years for RA to learn

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      • TimT Tim

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/133319767/hamish-mclennans-exit-will-be-welcomed-by-new-zealand-rugby

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        @Tim said in Aussie Rugby:

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/133319767/hamish-mclennans-exit-will-be-welcomed-by-new-zealand-rugby

        Cully gets it right again: zero sum. That's how McLennan saw the world.

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        • Dan54D Dan54

          @Tim I read that earlier and tend to agree. One of the problems I had with Hamist when he came in was his confrontational manner, which I always had the impression was to show the Aussie rugby public he wasn't going to be pushed around? He did it in press and it got lapped up by some, and why I always thought he was a bit of a publicity hound, and that was way of operating. I thought the same when he kept waving red flag at League, (a game I don't like etc) ,but I just thought a lot of it was not best prctice.

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          barbarian
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          #4406

          @Dan54 said in Aussie Rugby:

          @Tim I read that earlier and tend to agree. One of the problems I had with Hamist when he came in was his confrontational manner, which I always had the impression was to show the Aussie rugby public he wasn't going to be pushed around? He did it in press and it got lapped up by some, and why I always thought he was a bit of a publicity hound, and that was way of operating. I thought the same when he kept waving red flag at League, (a game I don't like etc) ,but I just thought a lot of it was not best prctice.

          Publicity hound is right. Bloke was addicted to media. He's done at least five 'tell all' interviews since the World Cup, and even after being voted out he did multiple radio interviews. I think being open to talking to media is good but there's a tipping point somewhere.

          Hamish wanted to be seen as the big man who made the big calls. And he wanted to be celebrated when it went right (World Cup bids) but avoid criticism when it went wrong (Eddie).

          It always works until it doesn't and I'm surprised he didn't realise that. But people like Hamish never realise that. They never understand the idea that it might be good to exit stage left and give someone else a turn. They think the whole thing lives and dies with them.

          Had he left after the World Cup, I think he would be viewed differently. People would respect the balls to make the big calls, and resign when the biggest call didn't work out. Instead he hung on, insisting we needed him and it was all a witch hunt from jaded losers who were out to get him. It was sad.

          The fact the board decision was unanimous was the final, brutal nail in the coffin. He lived by the sword and by god he died by it.

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            i reckon he really wants to be Peter V'Landys. But Pete is way more ruthless.

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              barbarian
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              And Pete had cut his teeth for years in the racing industry before taking the reigns of the NRL. He'd honed his playbook to a fine art. Hamish thought he could run rugby like a hedge fund and just plow through bad results like nothing happened.

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                Tim
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                https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/11/21/exclusive-rising-wallabies-hardman-set-to-leave-australian-rugby-in-warning-sign-for-ra/

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                • TimT Tim

                  https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/11/21/exclusive-rising-wallabies-hardman-set-to-leave-australian-rugby-in-warning-sign-for-ra/

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                  #4410

                  @Tim said in Aussie Rugby:

                  https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/11/21/exclusive-rising-wallabies-hardman-set-to-leave-australian-rugby-in-warning-sign-for-ra/

                  Swinton fucking off would be a win for Australia

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                    All the physical attributes required. None of the sense.

                    I was at a Waratahs function earlier this year, and he was there along with others. He basically said if they brought in the proposed below-sternum tackling, he'd quit.

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                    • NTAN NTA

                      All the physical attributes required. None of the sense.

                      I was at a Waratahs function earlier this year, and he was there along with others. He basically said if they brought in the proposed below-sternum tackling, he'd quit.

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                      #4412

                      @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                      All the physical attributes required. None of the sense.

                      I was at a Waratahs function earlier this year, and he was there along with others. He basically said if they brought in the proposed below-sternum tackling, he'd quit.

                      Proving my point above. League is calling.

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                        Machpants
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                        Reason actually on point about Hamish

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/301012563/mark-reason-the-madness-of-hamish-mclennan-and-why-nz-rugby-is-joyful

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                          #4414

                          Rugby Australia has been dealt another sizeable blow, with Harvey Norman opting not to renew its three-year sponsorship of Super Rugby.
                          The news was confirmed by chairperson Gerry Harvey on Thursday, with the company shifting its sports sponsorship focus elsewhere.
                          "What we do is, we do whatever sport for a while; we don't necessarily hang on to it forever," Harvey told the Sydney Morning Herald.
                          "So we move around on different sports so we're very heavy into sport advertising that we don't necessarily stay with the one sport forever.

                          The full article is on ESPN. I'm surprised that McLennan's head hasn't exploded yet with his own self-importance based on his comments later in the article. He certainly knows how to market himself. What a muppet.

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                          • barbarianB barbarian

                            @Dan54 said in Aussie Rugby:

                            @Tim I read that earlier and tend to agree. One of the problems I had with Hamist when he came in was his confrontational manner, which I always had the impression was to show the Aussie rugby public he wasn't going to be pushed around? He did it in press and it got lapped up by some, and why I always thought he was a bit of a publicity hound, and that was way of operating. I thought the same when he kept waving red flag at League, (a game I don't like etc) ,but I just thought a lot of it was not best prctice.

                            Publicity hound is right. Bloke was addicted to media. He's done at least five 'tell all' interviews since the World Cup, and even after being voted out he did multiple radio interviews. I think being open to talking to media is good but there's a tipping point somewhere.

                            Hamish wanted to be seen as the big man who made the big calls. And he wanted to be celebrated when it went right (World Cup bids) but avoid criticism when it went wrong (Eddie).

                            It always works until it doesn't and I'm surprised he didn't realise that. But people like Hamish never realise that. They never understand the idea that it might be good to exit stage left and give someone else a turn. They think the whole thing lives and dies with them.

                            Had he left after the World Cup, I think he would be viewed differently. People would respect the balls to make the big calls, and resign when the biggest call didn't work out. Instead he hung on, insisting we needed him and it was all a witch hunt from jaded losers who were out to get him. It was sad.

                            The fact the board decision was unanimous was the final, brutal nail in the coffin. He lived by the sword and by god he died by it.

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                            MajorPom
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                            #4415

                            @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
                            .

                            Had he left after the World Cup, I think he would be viewed differently. People would respect the balls to make the big calls, and resign when the biggest call didn't work out. Instead he hung on, insisting we needed him and it was all a witch hunt from jaded losers who were out to get him. It was sad.

                            Has his redundancy package been published? That'll be why he didn't resign.

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                              nzzp
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                              Wow, just wow. A Eur1M agreement that was ORAL ONLY WTAF? Amateur hour.

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/133351599/rugby-australia-seek-1-million-from-france-after-preworld-cup-contracting-blunder

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                              • nzzpN nzzp

                                Wow, just wow. A Eur1M agreement that was ORAL ONLY WTAF? Amateur hour.

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/133351599/rugby-australia-seek-1-million-from-france-after-preworld-cup-contracting-blunder

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                                #4417

                                @nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:

                                Wow, just wow. A Eur1M agreement that was ORAL ONLY WTAF? Amateur hour.

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/133351599/rugby-australia-seek-1-million-from-france-after-preworld-cup-contracting-blunder

                                This is the type of business guy the governance review reckons we need more of in NZ ...

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                                • NTAN Offline
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                                  NTA
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                                  #4418

                                  Again: hubris. Thinking nobody would back out of a handshake deal.

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                                  • nzzpN nzzp

                                    Wow, just wow. A Eur1M agreement that was ORAL ONLY WTAF? Amateur hour.

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/133351599/rugby-australia-seek-1-million-from-france-after-preworld-cup-contracting-blunder

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                                    @nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:

                                    Wow, just wow. A Eur1M agreement that was ORAL ONLY WTAF? Amateur hour.

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/133351599/rugby-australia-seek-1-million-from-france-after-preworld-cup-contracting-blunder

                                    That's the business genius RA has now lost with McLennan throwing his toys out of the cot?

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                                    • TimT Offline
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                                      Tim
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                                      Was the verbal agreement made with convicted fraudster Bernard Laporte?

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        Was the verbal agreement made with convicted fraudster Bernard Laporte?

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                                        Catogrande
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                                        @Tim

                                        Yep

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                                        • M Machpants

                                          Reason actually on point about Hamish

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/301012563/mark-reason-the-madness-of-hamish-mclennan-and-why-nz-rugby-is-joyful

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                                          Victor Meldrew
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                                          @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                                          Reason actually on point about Hamish

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/301012563/mark-reason-the-madness-of-hamish-mclennan-and-why-nz-rugby-is-joyful

                                          "Rumours of an impromptu champagne party being thrown at the headquarters of New Zealand Rugby have yet to be substantiated, although the bellicose Aussie businessman was known to be about as popular with the leaders of NZR as a rabid possum."

                                          Seriously quality writing.

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