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  • NTAN NTA

    All the physical attributes required. None of the sense.

    I was at a Waratahs function earlier this year, and he was there along with others. He basically said if they brought in the proposed below-sternum tackling, he'd quit.

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    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

    All the physical attributes required. None of the sense.

    I was at a Waratahs function earlier this year, and he was there along with others. He basically said if they brought in the proposed below-sternum tackling, he'd quit.

    Proving my point above. League is calling.

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      Reason actually on point about Hamish

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/301012563/mark-reason-the-madness-of-hamish-mclennan-and-why-nz-rugby-is-joyful

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        #4414

        Rugby Australia has been dealt another sizeable blow, with Harvey Norman opting not to renew its three-year sponsorship of Super Rugby.
        The news was confirmed by chairperson Gerry Harvey on Thursday, with the company shifting its sports sponsorship focus elsewhere.
        "What we do is, we do whatever sport for a while; we don't necessarily hang on to it forever," Harvey told the Sydney Morning Herald.
        "So we move around on different sports so we're very heavy into sport advertising that we don't necessarily stay with the one sport forever.

        The full article is on ESPN. I'm surprised that McLennan's head hasn't exploded yet with his own self-importance based on his comments later in the article. He certainly knows how to market himself. What a muppet.

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        • barbarianB barbarian

          @Dan54 said in Aussie Rugby:

          @Tim I read that earlier and tend to agree. One of the problems I had with Hamist when he came in was his confrontational manner, which I always had the impression was to show the Aussie rugby public he wasn't going to be pushed around? He did it in press and it got lapped up by some, and why I always thought he was a bit of a publicity hound, and that was way of operating. I thought the same when he kept waving red flag at League, (a game I don't like etc) ,but I just thought a lot of it was not best prctice.

          Publicity hound is right. Bloke was addicted to media. He's done at least five 'tell all' interviews since the World Cup, and even after being voted out he did multiple radio interviews. I think being open to talking to media is good but there's a tipping point somewhere.

          Hamish wanted to be seen as the big man who made the big calls. And he wanted to be celebrated when it went right (World Cup bids) but avoid criticism when it went wrong (Eddie).

          It always works until it doesn't and I'm surprised he didn't realise that. But people like Hamish never realise that. They never understand the idea that it might be good to exit stage left and give someone else a turn. They think the whole thing lives and dies with them.

          Had he left after the World Cup, I think he would be viewed differently. People would respect the balls to make the big calls, and resign when the biggest call didn't work out. Instead he hung on, insisting we needed him and it was all a witch hunt from jaded losers who were out to get him. It was sad.

          The fact the board decision was unanimous was the final, brutal nail in the coffin. He lived by the sword and by god he died by it.

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          @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
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          Had he left after the World Cup, I think he would be viewed differently. People would respect the balls to make the big calls, and resign when the biggest call didn't work out. Instead he hung on, insisting we needed him and it was all a witch hunt from jaded losers who were out to get him. It was sad.

          Has his redundancy package been published? That'll be why he didn't resign.

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            Wow, just wow. A Eur1M agreement that was ORAL ONLY WTAF? Amateur hour.

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/133351599/rugby-australia-seek-1-million-from-france-after-preworld-cup-contracting-blunder

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            • nzzpN nzzp

              Wow, just wow. A Eur1M agreement that was ORAL ONLY WTAF? Amateur hour.

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/133351599/rugby-australia-seek-1-million-from-france-after-preworld-cup-contracting-blunder

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              @nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:

              Wow, just wow. A Eur1M agreement that was ORAL ONLY WTAF? Amateur hour.

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/133351599/rugby-australia-seek-1-million-from-france-after-preworld-cup-contracting-blunder

              This is the type of business guy the governance review reckons we need more of in NZ ...

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              • NTAN Offline
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                Again: hubris. Thinking nobody would back out of a handshake deal.

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                • nzzpN nzzp

                  Wow, just wow. A Eur1M agreement that was ORAL ONLY WTAF? Amateur hour.

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/133351599/rugby-australia-seek-1-million-from-france-after-preworld-cup-contracting-blunder

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                  @nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:

                  Wow, just wow. A Eur1M agreement that was ORAL ONLY WTAF? Amateur hour.

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/133351599/rugby-australia-seek-1-million-from-france-after-preworld-cup-contracting-blunder

                  That's the business genius RA has now lost with McLennan throwing his toys out of the cot?

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                    Was the verbal agreement made with convicted fraudster Bernard Laporte?

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                    • TimT Tim

                      Was the verbal agreement made with convicted fraudster Bernard Laporte?

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                      @Tim

                      Yep

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                      • M Machpants

                        Reason actually on point about Hamish

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/301012563/mark-reason-the-madness-of-hamish-mclennan-and-why-nz-rugby-is-joyful

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                        @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                        Reason actually on point about Hamish

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/301012563/mark-reason-the-madness-of-hamish-mclennan-and-why-nz-rugby-is-joyful

                        "Rumours of an impromptu champagne party being thrown at the headquarters of New Zealand Rugby have yet to be substantiated, although the bellicose Aussie businessman was known to be about as popular with the leaders of NZR as a rabid possum."

                        Seriously quality writing.

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                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                          @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                          Reason actually on point about Hamish

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/301012563/mark-reason-the-madness-of-hamish-mclennan-and-why-nz-rugby-is-joyful

                          "Rumours of an impromptu champagne party being thrown at the headquarters of New Zealand Rugby have yet to be substantiated, although the bellicose Aussie businessman was known to be about as popular with the leaders of NZR as a rabid possum."

                          Seriously quality writing.

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                          @Victor-Meldrew said in Aussie Rugby:

                          @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                          Reason actually on point about Hamish

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/301012563/mark-reason-the-madness-of-hamish-mclennan-and-why-nz-rugby-is-joyful

                          "Rumours of an impromptu champagne party being thrown at the headquarters of New Zealand Rugby have yet to be substantiated, although the bellicose Aussie businessman was known to be about as popular with the leaders of NZR as a rabid possum."

                          Seriously quality writing.

                          Mark Reason?

                          Does not compute...

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                          • boobooB booboo

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in Aussie Rugby:

                            @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                            Reason actually on point about Hamish

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/301012563/mark-reason-the-madness-of-hamish-mclennan-and-why-nz-rugby-is-joyful

                            "Rumours of an impromptu champagne party being thrown at the headquarters of New Zealand Rugby have yet to be substantiated, although the bellicose Aussie businessman was known to be about as popular with the leaders of NZR as a rabid possum."

                            Seriously quality writing.

                            Mark Reason?

                            Does not compute...

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                            #4424

                            @booboo said in Aussie Rugby:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in Aussie Rugby:

                            @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                            Reason actually on point about Hamish

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/301012563/mark-reason-the-madness-of-hamish-mclennan-and-why-nz-rugby-is-joyful

                            "Rumours of an impromptu champagne party being thrown at the headquarters of New Zealand Rugby have yet to be substantiated, although the bellicose Aussie businessman was known to be about as popular with the leaders of NZR as a rabid possum."

                            Seriously quality writing.

                            Mark Reason?

                            Does not compute...

                            Pardon my irony. 🙂

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                            • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                              @booboo said in Aussie Rugby:

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in Aussie Rugby:

                              @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                              Reason actually on point about Hamish

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/301012563/mark-reason-the-madness-of-hamish-mclennan-and-why-nz-rugby-is-joyful

                              "Rumours of an impromptu champagne party being thrown at the headquarters of New Zealand Rugby have yet to be substantiated, although the bellicose Aussie businessman was known to be about as popular with the leaders of NZR as a rabid possum."

                              Seriously quality writing.

                              Mark Reason?

                              Does not compute...

                              Pardon my irony. 🙂

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                              @Victor-Meldrew said in Aussie Rugby:

                              @booboo said in Aussie Rugby:

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in Aussie Rugby:

                              @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                              Reason actually on point about Hamish

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/301012563/mark-reason-the-madness-of-hamish-mclennan-and-why-nz-rugby-is-joyful

                              "Rumours of an impromptu champagne party being thrown at the headquarters of New Zealand Rugby have yet to be substantiated, although the bellicose Aussie businessman was known to be about as popular with the leaders of NZR as a rabid possum."

                              Seriously quality writing.

                              Mark Reason?

                              Does not compute...

                              Pardon my irony. 🙂

                              Yeah you know the subject must be a bit of a toxic individual when that happens.

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                              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                                Reason actually on point about Hamish

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/301012563/mark-reason-the-madness-of-hamish-mclennan-and-why-nz-rugby-is-joyful

                                "Rumours of an impromptu champagne party being thrown at the headquarters of New Zealand Rugby have yet to be substantiated, although the bellicose Aussie businessman was known to be about as popular with the leaders of NZR as a rabid possum."

                                Seriously quality writing.

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                                NTA
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                                #4426

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in Aussie Rugby:

                                @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                                Reason actually on point about Hamish

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/301012563/mark-reason-the-madness-of-hamish-mclennan-and-why-nz-rugby-is-joyful

                                "Rumours of an impromptu champagne party being thrown at the headquarters of New Zealand Rugby have yet to be substantiated, although the bellicose Aussie businessman was known to be about as popular with the leaders of NZR as a rabid possum."

                                Seriously quality writing.

                                Sounds like Greg Growden from over here. Enormously pleased with their own cleverness and has enough readership of similar intelligence to chortle along with them.

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                                • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                  @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
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                                  Had he left after the World Cup, I think he would be viewed differently. People would respect the balls to make the big calls, and resign when the biggest call didn't work out. Instead he hung on, insisting we needed him and it was all a witch hunt from jaded losers who were out to get him. It was sad.

                                  Has his redundancy package been published? That'll be why he didn't resign.

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                                  @MajorRage said in Aussie Rugby:

                                  @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
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                                  Had he left after the World Cup, I think he would be viewed differently. People would respect the balls to make the big calls, and resign when the biggest call didn't work out. Instead he hung on, insisting we needed him and it was all a witch hunt from jaded losers who were out to get him. It was sad.

                                  Has his redundancy package been published? That'll be why he didn't resign.

                                  Given he was an elected Chair, I'm not sure he gets one? I'm no expert in corporate governance though...

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                                  • barbarianB barbarian

                                    @MajorRage said in Aussie Rugby:

                                    @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
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                                    Had he left after the World Cup, I think he would be viewed differently. People would respect the balls to make the big calls, and resign when the biggest call didn't work out. Instead he hung on, insisting we needed him and it was all a witch hunt from jaded losers who were out to get him. It was sad.

                                    Has his redundancy package been published? That'll be why he didn't resign.

                                    Given he was an elected Chair, I'm not sure he gets one? I'm no expert in corporate governance though...

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                                    @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:

                                    @MajorRage said in Aussie Rugby:

                                    @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
                                    .

                                    Had he left after the World Cup, I think he would be viewed differently. People would respect the balls to make the big calls, and resign when the biggest call didn't work out. Instead he hung on, insisting we needed him and it was all a witch hunt from jaded losers who were out to get him. It was sad.

                                    Has his redundancy package been published? That'll be why he didn't resign.

                                    Given he was an elected Chair, I'm not sure he gets one? I'm no expert in corporate governance though...

                                    Yup he decided to chuck his teddies out cos he couldn't be chair, he could've stayed as board member

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                                    • barbarianB barbarian

                                      @MajorRage said in Aussie Rugby:

                                      @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
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                                      Had he left after the World Cup, I think he would be viewed differently. People would respect the balls to make the big calls, and resign when the biggest call didn't work out. Instead he hung on, insisting we needed him and it was all a witch hunt from jaded losers who were out to get him. It was sad.

                                      Has his redundancy package been published? That'll be why he didn't resign.

                                      Given he was an elected Chair, I'm not sure he gets one? I'm no expert in corporate governance though...

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                                      Nepia
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                                      #4429

                                      @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:

                                      @MajorRage said in Aussie Rugby:

                                      @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
                                      .

                                      Had he left after the World Cup, I think he would be viewed differently. People would respect the balls to make the big calls, and resign when the biggest call didn't work out. Instead he hung on, insisting we needed him and it was all a witch hunt from jaded losers who were out to get him. It was sad.

                                      Has his redundancy package been published? That'll be why he didn't resign.

                                      Given he was an elected Chair, I'm not sure he gets one? I'm no expert in corporate governance though...

                                      Board members aren't employees so wouldn't be covered by normal redundancy and as @Machpants notes he resigned because he wouldn't be Chair.

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:

                                        @MajorRage said in Aussie Rugby:

                                        @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
                                        .

                                        Had he left after the World Cup, I think he would be viewed differently. People would respect the balls to make the big calls, and resign when the biggest call didn't work out. Instead he hung on, insisting we needed him and it was all a witch hunt from jaded losers who were out to get him. It was sad.

                                        Has his redundancy package been published? That'll be why he didn't resign.

                                        Given he was an elected Chair, I'm not sure he gets one? I'm no expert in corporate governance though...

                                        Board members aren't employees so wouldn't be covered by normal redundancy and as @Machpants notes he resigned because he wouldn't be Chair.

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                                        Kiwiwomble
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                                        @Nepia given the handshake deal....i would think if he was subject to normal employment law...he would be in line for gross negligence if he hadn;t left

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