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    Tim
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    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/wallaby-david-porecki-extends-deal-with-rugby-australia-and-waratahs/

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      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/tate-mcdermott-and-liam-wright-to-captain-reds-again-in-2024/

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      • NepiaN Nepia

        @booboo said in Aussie Rugby:

        @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

        @booboo said in Aussie Rugby:

        Fuck off. Hope you fail.

        i hope he's a glorious success.

        Like it or not kiwis, we need Aussie to be good. And alive. The ONLY way that is happening is if the Wallabies can win shit. Starting with the Bledisloe, and then the Lions.

        If Joe can't win the Bledisloe back, and then they get humped 3-0 by the Lions, and fail at their home World Cup, then we're all alone at the ass end of nowhere, and economics will crush us.

        It might also put the shits up NZ rugby a little if we have to actually work to win stuff down here again.

        I have my reasons which I have outlined previously. My petty grudge has lasted 43 years ... Was prepared to let it ride while he was helping us. But fuck him now.

        Otherwise I'd agree with you.

        Yeah, it's nice to not like the Oz coach, when Rennie was coach I both wanted us to smash them but them to do well for him.

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        #4566

        @Nepia said in Aussie Rugby:

        @booboo said in Aussie Rugby:

        @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

        @booboo said in Aussie Rugby:

        Fuck off. Hope you fail.

        i hope he's a glorious success.

        Like it or not kiwis, we need Aussie to be good. And alive. The ONLY way that is happening is if the Wallabies can win shit. Starting with the Bledisloe, and then the Lions.

        If Joe can't win the Bledisloe back, and then they get humped 3-0 by the Lions, and fail at their home World Cup, then we're all alone at the ass end of nowhere, and economics will crush us.

        It might also put the shits up NZ rugby a little if we have to actually work to win stuff down here again.

        I have my reasons which I have outlined previously. My petty grudge has lasted 43 years ... Was prepared to let it ride while he was helping us. But fuck him now.

        Otherwise I'd agree with you.

        Yeah, it's nice to not like the Oz coach, when Rennie was coach I both wanted us to smash them but them to do well for him.

        Yeah - I felt the same way about Robbie.

        Of course Robbie won a lot more than Dave (58 percent vs 38 percent) 🙂 , but both of them had the good grace to only rarely beat the ABs!

        :fishing_pole: 🎣

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        • NTAN NTA

          @Dan54 said in Aussie Rugby:

          @NTA Just out of interest mate. have you heard anything on any of the super teams being in the shit? I have seen the odd article saying Brumbies etc were having a few problems, but not sure what's true or not. We been hearing about the NH ones of course that actually ended up folding, so I don't dismiss them outright these days.

          There's no doubt that our super franchises are financially in the shit, but that's true of Australian Rugby generally.

          Attendances are going down, costs aren't. TV deals aren't with what they were. The adminstration across the pro game grew fat on Fox money and were never prepared for times of scarcity.

          It isn't the end, but we need to be smarter.

          Hence the centralisation/alignment discussions. Got the make the operating model leaner.

          It needs to happen at grassroots as well - I've mentioned Sydney alone has 4 different unions and 4 different schools competitions involved. And they often fight each other for resources. Why?

          Hopefully with the Tahs now out of the NSWRU model, we can start to see some real change.

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          @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

          @Dan54 said in Aussie Rugby:

          @NTA Just out of interest mate. have you heard anything on any of the super teams being in the shit? I have seen the odd article saying Brumbies etc were having a few problems, but not sure what's true or not. We been hearing about the NH ones of course that actually ended up folding, so I don't dismiss them outright these days.

          There's no doubt that our super franchises are financially in the shit, but that's true of Australian Rugby generally.

          Attendances are going down, costs aren't. TV deals aren't with what they were. The adminstration across the pro game grew fat on Fox money and were never prepared for times of scarcity.

          It isn't the end, but we need to be smarter.

          Hence the centralisation/alignment discussions. Got the make the operating model leaner.

          It needs to happen at grassroots as well - I've mentioned Sydney alone has 4 different unions and 4 different schools competitions involved. And they often fight each other for resources. Why?

          Hopefully with the Tahs now out of the NSWRU model, we can start to see some real change.

          So The Australian got it right then. Go read your ABC Nick….

          Brumbies are in trouble, but there are some attempts at power play going on as well

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          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

            @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

            @Dan54 said in Aussie Rugby:

            @NTA Just out of interest mate. have you heard anything on any of the super teams being in the shit? I have seen the odd article saying Brumbies etc were having a few problems, but not sure what's true or not. We been hearing about the NH ones of course that actually ended up folding, so I don't dismiss them outright these days.

            There's no doubt that our super franchises are financially in the shit, but that's true of Australian Rugby generally.

            Attendances are going down, costs aren't. TV deals aren't with what they were. The adminstration across the pro game grew fat on Fox money and were never prepared for times of scarcity.

            It isn't the end, but we need to be smarter.

            Hence the centralisation/alignment discussions. Got the make the operating model leaner.

            It needs to happen at grassroots as well - I've mentioned Sydney alone has 4 different unions and 4 different schools competitions involved. And they often fight each other for resources. Why?

            Hopefully with the Tahs now out of the NSWRU model, we can start to see some real change.

            So The Australian got it right then. Go read your ABC Nick….

            Brumbies are in trouble, but there are some attempts at power play going on as well

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            #4568

            @ACT-Crusader said in Aussie Rugby:

            So The Australian got it right then.

            Certainly the bit about rugby having financial trouble, but they're well accustomed to hyperbole.

            I.e. how could anyone at RA be shocked? Annual reports are released annually 😉 and regular updates occur between the franchises and HQ all the time.

            And the Brumbies have made no secret about their friction with head office. It's practically their bread and butter.

            Go read your ABC Nick….

            🤣

            Tbh I'm not sure it's mine any more 😉

            It's either Ita's or Israel's these days :winking_face_with_tongue:

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              #4569

              Comments on Schmidt from Dalton Papalii in a recent Herald interview -

              Papalii doesn’t shy away from offering his views – such as this on Schmidt’s awkward looming switch from All Blacks assistant to Australian head coach.

              “He is one of the greatest coaches I’ve had the pleasure of being under,” Papalii said. “When he came in here to the Blues I couldn’t believe how much impact he had for that one year. We missed that fine tuning from him last year.

              “Having him in the All Blacks he’s A-plus, world-class. I can’t put into words how much of an exceptional coach he is. He leaves no stone unturned. When I heard he was going to the Wallabies the first couple of seconds I was a bit hurt but whatever makes him happy and whatever is good for him and his family I 100 per cent support him. I see him as a coach and also a friend. I’m rooting for him – just not on game day against Aussie.”

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              • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                Comments on Schmidt from Dalton Papalii in a recent Herald interview -

                Papalii doesn’t shy away from offering his views – such as this on Schmidt’s awkward looming switch from All Blacks assistant to Australian head coach.

                “He is one of the greatest coaches I’ve had the pleasure of being under,” Papalii said. “When he came in here to the Blues I couldn’t believe how much impact he had for that one year. We missed that fine tuning from him last year.

                “Having him in the All Blacks he’s A-plus, world-class. I can’t put into words how much of an exceptional coach he is. He leaves no stone unturned. When I heard he was going to the Wallabies the first couple of seconds I was a bit hurt but whatever makes him happy and whatever is good for him and his family I 100 per cent support him. I see him as a coach and also a friend. I’m rooting for him – just not on game day against Aussie.”

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                Catogrande
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                #4570

                @Daffy-Jaffy

                That’s a good take from Pap’ailli (poss spelling blunder).

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                • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                  Comments on Schmidt from Dalton Papalii in a recent Herald interview -

                  Papalii doesn’t shy away from offering his views – such as this on Schmidt’s awkward looming switch from All Blacks assistant to Australian head coach.

                  “He is one of the greatest coaches I’ve had the pleasure of being under,” Papalii said. “When he came in here to the Blues I couldn’t believe how much impact he had for that one year. We missed that fine tuning from him last year.

                  “Having him in the All Blacks he’s A-plus, world-class. I can’t put into words how much of an exceptional coach he is. He leaves no stone unturned. When I heard he was going to the Wallabies the first couple of seconds I was a bit hurt but whatever makes him happy and whatever is good for him and his family I 100 per cent support him. I see him as a coach and also a friend. I’m rooting for him – just not on game day against Aussie.”

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                  NTA
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                  #4571

                  @Daffy-Jaffy said in Aussie Rugby:

                  I’m rooting for him

                  Fucking Americanism

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                  • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                    Comments on Schmidt from Dalton Papalii in a recent Herald interview -

                    Papalii doesn’t shy away from offering his views – such as this on Schmidt’s awkward looming switch from All Blacks assistant to Australian head coach.

                    “He is one of the greatest coaches I’ve had the pleasure of being under,” Papalii said. “When he came in here to the Blues I couldn’t believe how much impact he had for that one year. We missed that fine tuning from him last year.

                    “Having him in the All Blacks he’s A-plus, world-class. I can’t put into words how much of an exceptional coach he is. He leaves no stone unturned. When I heard he was going to the Wallabies the first couple of seconds I was a bit hurt but whatever makes him happy and whatever is good for him and his family I 100 per cent support him. I see him as a coach and also a friend. I’m rooting for him – just not on game day against Aussie.”

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                    gt12
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                    #4572

                    @Daffy-Jaffy

                    Future AB captain, right there.

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                    • TimT Away
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                      Tim
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                      #4573

                      https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/01/25/rebels-to-play-in-super-rugby-in-2024-but-long-term-future-on-shaky-ground-as-voluntary-administration-looms/

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                        Tim
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                        #4574

                        https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/rugby-union/strapped-melbourne-rebels-super-rugby-team-in-danger-of-folding/news-story/1279ad17026b5fb5abe3540085874199?amp

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                          Tim
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                          #4575

                          The competition will be better off without them.

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                          • TimT Tim

                            The competition will be better off without them.

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                            @Tim said in Aussie Rugby:

                            The competition will be better off without them.

                            I'm no lawyer, but I think this is pertinent:

                            Another possibility is that if RA was to let the Rebels go under they could pick up the franchise without inheriting the debt and then take over the franchise. It’s not yet known who the debt would fall back on, with lawyers already looking at the situation.

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                              To think they could've done this years ago and kept the Force.

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                                #4578

                                What’s more, the Rebels’ chairman, Paul Docherty, who is the club’s major financial backer, is a director of 10 companies that have lost at least $70m. It’s believed Docherty’s preference is to remain as chair.

                                Sounds like an amazing business leader

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                                  What’s more, the Rebels’ chairman, Paul Docherty, who is the club’s major financial backer, is a director of 10 companies that have lost at least $70m. It’s believed Docherty’s preference is to remain as chair.

                                  Sounds like an amazing business leader

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                                  #4579

                                  @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                                  What’s more, the Rebels’ chairman, Paul Docherty, who is the club’s major financial backer, is a director of 10 companies that have lost at least $70m. It’s believed Docherty’s preference is to remain as chair.

                                  Sounds like an amazing business leader

                                  Once you're on a Board, or in the C-suite, you're set for life.

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                                    Daffy Jaffy
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                                    #4580

                                    Six years after leaving the Waratahs, Andrew Kellaway has found a way home to Sydney.

                                    The Roar can reveal the Wallabies star has signed a long-term deal to return to the Waratahs from 2025 through until the 2027 World Cup.

                                    His signature is a swift and strong response by the Tahs after losing Mark Nawaqanitawase to the NRL, with the Wallabies young gun to join the Sydney Roosters next year.

                                    His looming departure is a fresh blow for the Melbourne Rebels, who are fighting to stay financially afloat beyond the season.

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                                    • NTAN NTA

                                      @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                                      What’s more, the Rebels’ chairman, Paul Docherty, who is the club’s major financial backer, is a director of 10 companies that have lost at least $70m. It’s believed Docherty’s preference is to remain as chair.

                                      Sounds like an amazing business leader

                                      Once you're on a Board, or in the C-suite, you're set for life.

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                                      @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                                      @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                                      What’s more, the Rebels’ chairman, Paul Docherty, who is the club’s major financial backer, is a director of 10 companies that have lost at least $70m. It’s believed Docherty’s preference is to remain as chair.

                                      Sounds like an amazing business leader

                                      Once you're on a Board, or in the C-suite, you're set for life.

                                      Same as high level coaches

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                                        @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                                        @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                                        What’s more, the Rebels’ chairman, Paul Docherty, who is the club’s major financial backer, is a director of 10 companies that have lost at least $70m. It’s believed Docherty’s preference is to remain as chair.

                                        Sounds like an amazing business leader

                                        Once you're on a Board, or in the C-suite, you're set for life.

                                        Same as high level coaches

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                                        @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                                        @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                                        @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                                        What’s more, the Rebels’ chairman, Paul Docherty, who is the club’s major financial backer, is a director of 10 companies that have lost at least $70m. It’s believed Docherty’s preference is to remain as chair.

                                        Sounds like an amazing business leader

                                        Once you're on a Board, or in the C-suite, you're set for life.

                                        Same as high level coaches

                                        Dave Rennie is asking where you get your info from Mach. :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                                        • TimT Away
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                                          Tim
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                                          #4583

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350159006/melbourne-rebels-enter-voluntary-administration-desperate-bid-survival

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