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    mikedogz
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    What is the ownership structure of the Rebels?

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      https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/rugby-australia-refuses-to-commit-to-melbourne-rebels-future-20240124-p5ezr6.html

      The state government has previously bailed out the Rebels. In 2017, the then-Andrews government entered into a $20 million deal with Rugby Australia to secure the Bledisloe Cup and British and Irish Lions Test matches in Melbourne over an eight-to-10-year period.

      That deal ensured the Melbourne team would be retained in the Super Rugby competition.

      When concerns over the Rebelsโ€™ future were raised in December, club boss Baden Stephenson told this masthead the financial problems were solvable, and that the issues were not unique to the club, but a broader problem across Super Rugbyโ€™s five Australian teams.

      He pointed to a cut in funding from Rugby Australia due to COVID-19 and the return of Western Force, which reduced the money given to each club from $5.5 million a year to $3.9 million.

      He also confirmed that talks had broken down for Rugby Australia to take control of the Rebels.

      โ€œWe very much were open to having a conversation around the centralisation of the commercial assets of our club. We had one brief conversation โ€ฆ those conversations have ceased for the moment, I donโ€™t think itโ€™s a major priority for Rugby Australia,โ€ he said.

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        I'll guess they'll be propped up for this season, if possible, was there part of the broadcast deal, and gone then

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          https://tenor.com/boHzj.gif

          https://www.planetrugby.com/news/super-rugby-pacific-club-deny-voluntary-administration-status-report

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            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/oconnor/

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            • DuluthD Duluth

              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/oconnor/

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              #4589

              @Duluth really excited to see what the Reds can do this season - they seem primed for a breakthrough

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              • antipodeanA antipodean

                To think they could've done this years ago and kept the Force.

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                @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

                To think they could've done this years ago and kept the Force.

                a team with half decent academy, a billionaire willing to help fund and less competition from half the AFL teams and the storm?....madness!

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                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                  @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

                  To think they could've done this years ago and kept the Force.

                  a team with half decent academy, a billionaire willing to help fund and less competition from half the AFL teams and the storm?....madness!

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                  @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

                  a billionaire who had shown zero fucks about rugby to that point, willing to help fund take the opportunity to stick it up the eastern states

                  FIFY

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                  • NTAN Offline
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                    NTA
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                    #4592

                    Yes - fully aware that money is money, regardless of motivation

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                    • NTAN NTA

                      @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

                      a billionaire who had shown zero fucks about rugby to that point, willing to help fund take the opportunity to stick it up the eastern states

                      FIFY

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                      @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                      @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

                      a billionaire who had shown zero fucks about rugby to that point, willing to help fund take the opportunity to stick it up the eastern states

                      FIFY

                      personally i think that says more about how poorly RA had engaged with potential investors, maybe if they had go out to the small market of billionaires to say give us some money or this team will disappear things might have been different

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                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                        @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                        @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

                        a billionaire who had shown zero fucks about rugby to that point, willing to help fund take the opportunity to stick it up the eastern states

                        FIFY

                        personally i think that says more about how poorly RA had engaged with potential investors, maybe if they had go out to the small market of billionaires to say give us some money or this team will disappear things might have been different

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                        #4594

                        @Kiwiwomble I'm not saying it's wrong, but lets be clear on Twiggy's reasoning ๐Ÿ˜‰

                        As I've said before: with all these fucking private school legends involved in the game - good rugby mean, all - why is it in such shit financial state?

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                        • NTAN NTA

                          @Kiwiwomble I'm not saying it's wrong, but lets be clear on Twiggy's reasoning ๐Ÿ˜‰

                          As I've said before: with all these fucking private school legends involved in the game - good rugby mean, all - why is it in such shit financial state?

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                          Kiwiwomble
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                          @NTA on the same page ๐Ÿ‘

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                          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                            @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                            @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

                            a billionaire who had shown zero fucks about rugby to that point, willing to help fund take the opportunity to stick it up the eastern states

                            FIFY

                            personally i think that says more about how poorly RA had engaged with potential investors, maybe if they had go out to the small market of billionaires to say give us some money or this team will disappear things might have been different

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                            @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

                            @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                            @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

                            a billionaire who had shown zero fucks about rugby to that point, willing to help fund take the opportunity to stick it up the eastern states

                            FIFY

                            personally i think that says more about how poorly RA had engaged with potential investors, maybe if they had go out to the small market of billionaires to say give us some money or this team will disappear things might have been different

                            you haven't spent much time dealing with people from WA have you? Being chippy about the eastern states is pretty much their entire go.

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                              @Kiwiwomble I'm not saying it's wrong, but lets be clear on Twiggy's reasoning ๐Ÿ˜‰

                              As I've said before: with all these fucking private school legends involved in the game - good rugby mean, all - why is it in such shit financial state?

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                              @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                              @Kiwiwomble I'm not saying it's wrong, but lets be clear on Twiggy's reasoning ๐Ÿ˜‰

                              As I've said before: with all these fucking private school legends involved in the game - good rugby mean, all - why is it in such shit financial state?

                              mainly because they fucked up the broadcast deal. $30m a year doesn't go far.

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

                                @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                                @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

                                a billionaire who had shown zero fucks about rugby to that point, willing to help fund take the opportunity to stick it up the eastern states

                                FIFY

                                personally i think that says more about how poorly RA had engaged with potential investors, maybe if they had go out to the small market of billionaires to say give us some money or this team will disappear things might have been different

                                you haven't spent much time dealing with people from WA have you? Being chippy about the eastern states is pretty much their entire go.

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                                Kiwiwomble
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                                @mariner4life should have been an obvious move then! go tap up the richest WA person and give them an opportunity to show up the eastern states!

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                                  antipodean
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                                  I have a story about Twiggy and rugby which goes to show why wealthy people don't become that level wealthy handing out money to others. It's only if there's something in it for them.

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                                    @Kiwiwomble I'm not saying it's wrong, but lets be clear on Twiggy's reasoning ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                    As I've said before: with all these fucking private school legends involved in the game - good rugby mean, all - why is it in such shit financial state?

                                    mainly because they fucked up the broadcast deal. $30m a year doesn't go far.

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                                    @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

                                    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                                    @Kiwiwomble I'm not saying it's wrong, but lets be clear on Twiggy's reasoning ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                    As I've said before: with all these fucking private school legends involved in the game - good rugby mean, all - why is it in such shit financial state?

                                    mainly because they fucked up the broadcast deal. $30m a year doesn't go far.

                                    Agreed.

                                    Fox offering less wasn't going to fly, either. That negotiation would have been fun

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                                      https://www.afr.com/street-talk/rebels-board-inches-towards-va-pwc-discussed-as-alternative-to-wexted-20240128-p5f0it?utm_source=newsletter.letterofintent.com.au&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=in-house-watchdog

                                      Deliberations over the future of the Melbourne Rebels have moved slowly this the weekend as the embattled rugby union club backed by BRC Capital slides slowly towards administration.

                                      Rugby Australia, which oversees the code, is pushing for the club to remain in the next season โ€“ which could be difficult given its precarious financial position.

                                      Now, Street Talk can reveal the Phil Waugh-led RA has hired Deloitte as its own adviser as it navigates the likely collapse of a major franchise. Sources said restructuring partner, Jason Tracy, was formally appointed on Friday.

                                      Of note, Joseph Hayes from Wexted Advisory has been mentioned in several dispatches as the likely administrator; however, the board has also considered PwCโ€™s Melbourne team, sources said.

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                                        antipodean
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                                        No doubt their debt would be more manageable if RA didn't withhold millions over the last few years.

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                                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                                          I have a story about Twiggy and rugby which goes to show why wealthy people don't become that level wealthy handing out money to others. It's only if there's something in it for them.

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                                          @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

                                          I have a story about Twiggy and rugby which goes to show why wealthy people don't become that level wealthy handing out money to others. It's only if there's something in it for them.

                                          Feel free to share

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