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  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

    a billionaire who had shown zero fucks about rugby to that point, willing to help fund take the opportunity to stick it up the eastern states

    FIFY

    personally i think that says more about how poorly RA had engaged with potential investors, maybe if they had go out to the small market of billionaires to say give us some money or this team will disappear things might have been different

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    NTA
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    #4594

    @Kiwiwomble I'm not saying it's wrong, but lets be clear on Twiggy's reasoning 😉

    As I've said before: with all these fucking private school legends involved in the game - good rugby mean, all - why is it in such shit financial state?

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    • NTAN NTA

      @Kiwiwomble I'm not saying it's wrong, but lets be clear on Twiggy's reasoning 😉

      As I've said before: with all these fucking private school legends involved in the game - good rugby mean, all - why is it in such shit financial state?

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      Kiwiwomble
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      @NTA on the same page 👍

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      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

        @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

        @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

        a billionaire who had shown zero fucks about rugby to that point, willing to help fund take the opportunity to stick it up the eastern states

        FIFY

        personally i think that says more about how poorly RA had engaged with potential investors, maybe if they had go out to the small market of billionaires to say give us some money or this team will disappear things might have been different

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        mariner4life
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        @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

        @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

        @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

        a billionaire who had shown zero fucks about rugby to that point, willing to help fund take the opportunity to stick it up the eastern states

        FIFY

        personally i think that says more about how poorly RA had engaged with potential investors, maybe if they had go out to the small market of billionaires to say give us some money or this team will disappear things might have been different

        you haven't spent much time dealing with people from WA have you? Being chippy about the eastern states is pretty much their entire go.

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        • NTAN NTA

          @Kiwiwomble I'm not saying it's wrong, but lets be clear on Twiggy's reasoning 😉

          As I've said before: with all these fucking private school legends involved in the game - good rugby mean, all - why is it in such shit financial state?

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          mariner4life
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          @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

          @Kiwiwomble I'm not saying it's wrong, but lets be clear on Twiggy's reasoning 😉

          As I've said before: with all these fucking private school legends involved in the game - good rugby mean, all - why is it in such shit financial state?

          mainly because they fucked up the broadcast deal. $30m a year doesn't go far.

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

            @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

            @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

            a billionaire who had shown zero fucks about rugby to that point, willing to help fund take the opportunity to stick it up the eastern states

            FIFY

            personally i think that says more about how poorly RA had engaged with potential investors, maybe if they had go out to the small market of billionaires to say give us some money or this team will disappear things might have been different

            you haven't spent much time dealing with people from WA have you? Being chippy about the eastern states is pretty much their entire go.

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            Kiwiwomble
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            #4598

            @mariner4life should have been an obvious move then! go tap up the richest WA person and give them an opportunity to show up the eastern states!

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            • antipodeanA Online
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              antipodean
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              #4599

              I have a story about Twiggy and rugby which goes to show why wealthy people don't become that level wealthy handing out money to others. It's only if there's something in it for them.

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                @Kiwiwomble I'm not saying it's wrong, but lets be clear on Twiggy's reasoning 😉

                As I've said before: with all these fucking private school legends involved in the game - good rugby mean, all - why is it in such shit financial state?

                mainly because they fucked up the broadcast deal. $30m a year doesn't go far.

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                #4600

                @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

                @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                @Kiwiwomble I'm not saying it's wrong, but lets be clear on Twiggy's reasoning 😉

                As I've said before: with all these fucking private school legends involved in the game - good rugby mean, all - why is it in such shit financial state?

                mainly because they fucked up the broadcast deal. $30m a year doesn't go far.

                Agreed.

                Fox offering less wasn't going to fly, either. That negotiation would have been fun

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                  Tim
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                  https://www.afr.com/street-talk/rebels-board-inches-towards-va-pwc-discussed-as-alternative-to-wexted-20240128-p5f0it?utm_source=newsletter.letterofintent.com.au&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=in-house-watchdog

                  Deliberations over the future of the Melbourne Rebels have moved slowly this the weekend as the embattled rugby union club backed by BRC Capital slides slowly towards administration.

                  Rugby Australia, which oversees the code, is pushing for the club to remain in the next season – which could be difficult given its precarious financial position.

                  Now, Street Talk can reveal the Phil Waugh-led RA has hired Deloitte as its own adviser as it navigates the likely collapse of a major franchise. Sources said restructuring partner, Jason Tracy, was formally appointed on Friday.

                  Of note, Joseph Hayes from Wexted Advisory has been mentioned in several dispatches as the likely administrator; however, the board has also considered PwC’s Melbourne team, sources said.

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                  • antipodeanA Online
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                    antipodean
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                    No doubt their debt would be more manageable if RA didn't withhold millions over the last few years.

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                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                      I have a story about Twiggy and rugby which goes to show why wealthy people don't become that level wealthy handing out money to others. It's only if there's something in it for them.

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                      #4603

                      @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

                      I have a story about Twiggy and rugby which goes to show why wealthy people don't become that level wealthy handing out money to others. It's only if there's something in it for them.

                      Feel free to share

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                      • boobooB booboo

                        @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

                        I have a story about Twiggy and rugby which goes to show why wealthy people don't become that level wealthy handing out money to others. It's only if there's something in it for them.

                        Feel free to share

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                        antipodean
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                        @booboo PM sent.

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                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                          @booboo PM sent.

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                          mariner4life
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                          @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

                          @booboo PM sent.

                          bro

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                          • antipodeanA Online
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                            antipodean
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                            #4606

                            I don't have the resources to fight a libel case against someone with deep, deep pockets. Even accounting for truth as a defence.

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                              Machpants
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                              https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/01/30/confirmed-rebels-fall-into-voluntary-administration-as-rugby-australia-seeks-sustainable-and-successful-future/

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                                Duluth
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                                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/letting-the-rebels-die-would-see-the-force-finally-flourish/

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                                • NTAN Offline
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                                  Dunno if that is accurate. You're asking people to move to Perth ffs...

                                  I think the net effect would be to strengthen QLD and ACT. It might work for NSW if they ever get their talent identification right.

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                                  • KiwiwombleK Online
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                                    Kiwiwomble
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                                    #4610

                                    there was some discussion at training on tuesday, i should add that two of our coaches are involoved with the rebels with youth and the womens teams...and they hadn't been told anything

                                    the most believable suggestion was Rugby Vic gives up there licence, let RA do what they want with it and just makes the Axemen state rep team the highest level just doing small end of year tours like they do currently

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                                    • NTAN NTA

                                      Dunno if that is accurate. You're asking people to move to Perth ffs...

                                      I think the net effect would be to strengthen QLD and ACT. It might work for NSW if they ever get their talent identification right.

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                                      #4611

                                      @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                                      Dunno if that is accurate. You're asking people to move to Perth ffs...

                                      I think the net effect would be to strengthen QLD and ACT. It might work for NSW if they ever get their talent identification right.

                                      I think they'll go fine because they have fans. People are invested in the team and are interested in rugby.

                                      That brings a certain amount of money in, that makes success easier. Players will want to be part of a competitive team. If, for instance, the Tahs keep fucking up players will choose Perth over Sydney if it helps their career

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                                        mariner4life
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                                        #4612

                                        Perth flourishing is an absolute myth. Their entire history is littered with being a team full of outcasts or past-their-primes from other teams.

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                                          barbarian
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                                          I don't think that's true. In their first few years when they were bolstered by (mythical) Firepower money, they had a cracking side. Matt Giteau, Drew Mitchell, Cameron Shepherd, David Pocock, Brendan Cannon, Nathan Sharpe, Brock James, Matt Henjak etc.

                                          Then the money disappeared and so did the players.

                                          Interestingly they now have arguable the best roster of the Australian super sides. Twiggy has bought out the chequebook and they have a pretty decent cohort with a lot of depth.

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