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  • canefanC canefan

    The wobs mess gets worse

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200907

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    @canefan a Rattue article? Really?

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      @canefan a Rattue article? Really?

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      #933

      @KiwiMurph I ignored the hyperbole

      https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/sport/opinion/wayne-smith/rugby-australia-sack-stephen-larkham-from-wallabies-staff/news-story/5e08b0a7756895415d691bcf872b26ef

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        Here are a couple of links to interesting articles about grassroots rugby in Aussie written by Geoff Parkes that are on the The Roar website

        https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/02/04/the-wrap-whats-the-real-lowdown-with-grassroots-rugby-part-one/

        https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/02/05/the-wrap-whats-the-real-lowdown-with-grassroots-rugby-part-two/

        Some of their problems are also very similar to what is going on here in NZ

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          I wonder how much money they're paying the homophobe to stay in Australia.

          Folau officially inks new deal through to 2022

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            #936

            Can remember Jeff Wilson saying to me last year,All the Aussies need is 25 decent players to turn up at a World Cup and they will always surprise you ,I think we get a bit caught with all the issues they have over ditch.

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              Played another game with/ against ex-Wallabies coach Stephen Larkham today. It's ridiculous how much time he appears to have on the field. It's like everyone else is wearing diving boots. Pass is still perfect - although it's probably easier to hit slower moving targets.

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                Interesting the mess AR is getting itself further and further into

                https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/02/18/rugby-au-concede-yet-another-own-goal-following-salary-top-up-revelations/

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                • antipodeanA antipodean

                  Played another game with/ against ex-Wallabies coach Stephen Larkham today. It's ridiculous how much time he appears to have on the field. It's like everyone else is wearing diving boots. Pass is still perfect - although it's probably easier to hit slower moving targets.

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                  @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                  Played another game with/ against ex-Wallabies coach Stephen Larkham today. It's ridiculous how much time he appears to have on the field. It's like everyone else is wearing diving boots. Pass is still perfect - although it's probably easier to hit slower moving targets.

                  Was that an ACT Vets game? Always interesting when you play alongside this calibre of talent and realise the huge gulf between them and you.

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                  • M Machpants

                    Interesting the mess AR is getting itself further and further into

                    https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/02/18/rugby-au-concede-yet-another-own-goal-following-salary-top-up-revelations/

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                    @Machpants That's a can of worms right there and it looks like Castle knows it.

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                      I'm not sure what the issue is? RA are fucking broke in simple financial ledger terms (income versus expenditure or whatever). The money needs to come from somewhere.

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                      • CrucialC Crucial

                        @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                        Played another game with/ against ex-Wallabies coach Stephen Larkham today. It's ridiculous how much time he appears to have on the field. It's like everyone else is wearing diving boots. Pass is still perfect - although it's probably easier to hit slower moving targets.

                        Was that an ACT Vets game? Always interesting when you play alongside this calibre of talent and realise the huge gulf between them and you.

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                        @Crucial Yeah, you can ignore the skills and physicality, it's the speed of thought and execution. Everything is just done at a faster pace.

                        @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                        I'm not sure what the issue is? RA are fucking broke in simple financial ledger terms (income versus expenditure or whatever). The money needs to come from somewhere.

                        Agreed. Spiro making a mountain out of a molehill. There's much bigger issues to deal with. Getting rid of Clyne is a step in the right direction.

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                        • NTAN NTA

                          I'm not sure what the issue is? RA are fucking broke in simple financial ledger terms (income versus expenditure or whatever). The money needs to come from somewhere.

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                          @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general: @antipodean > I'm not sure what the issue is? RA are fucking broke in simple financial ledger terms (income versus expenditure or whatever). The money needs to come from somewhere.

                          In simple terms of financial necessity I'd agree but the potential for undue influence and the under the radar methodology used makes this a bit of a mess IMO.

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                          • CatograndeC Catogrande

                            @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general: @antipodean > I'm not sure what the issue is? RA are fucking broke in simple financial ledger terms (income versus expenditure or whatever). The money needs to come from somewhere.

                            In simple terms of financial necessity I'd agree but the potential for undue influence and the under the radar methodology used makes this a bit of a mess IMO.

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                            @Catogrande said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                            @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general: @antipodean > I'm not sure what the issue is? RA are fucking broke in simple financial ledger terms (income versus expenditure or whatever). The money needs to come from somewhere.

                            In simple terms of financial necessity I'd agree but the potential for undue influence and the under the radar methodology used makes this a bit of a mess IMO.

                            bit of a mess is the ARU's modus operandi

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                            • antipodeanA antipodean

                              @Catogrande said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                              @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general: @antipodean > I'm not sure what the issue is? RA are fucking broke in simple financial ledger terms (income versus expenditure or whatever). The money needs to come from somewhere.

                              In simple terms of financial necessity I'd agree but the potential for undue influence and the under the radar methodology used makes this a bit of a mess IMO.

                              bit of a mess is the ARU's modus operandi

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                              @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                              @Catogrande said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                              @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general: @antipodean > I'm not sure what the issue is? RA are fucking broke in simple financial ledger terms (income versus expenditure or whatever). The money needs to come from somewhere.

                              In simple terms of financial necessity I'd agree but the potential for undue influence and the under the radar methodology used makes this a bit of a mess IMO.

                              bit of a mess is the ARU's modus operandi

                              There's probably not enough gin going around. The RFU runs on Beefeater and we are assured that everything is fine, just fine.

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                                When you look at the disparity in pay from the top to bottom, and the net effect of retaining these particular players, you have to ask one question:

                                "So what?"

                                Really, if you take out Pocock and Folau are we going to be any more second tier than we are now? We've never paid tight five forwards enough, or given them a decent pathway, to compete at the highest levels consistently. The cupboard is pretty bare on decent inside backs, and we lack pace OR size on the wings. We have no decent 8th men to speak of and some half-arsed blindside flankers.

                                7 is actually one place we do ok.

                                As for Folau... Well a fullback who can't fucking pass is of questionable value.

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                                • NTAN NTA

                                  When you look at the disparity in pay from the top to bottom, and the net effect of retaining these particular players, you have to ask one question:

                                  "So what?"

                                  Really, if you take out Pocock and Folau are we going to be any more second tier than we are now? We've never paid tight five forwards enough, or given them a decent pathway, to compete at the highest levels consistently. The cupboard is pretty bare on decent inside backs, and we lack pace OR size on the wings. We have no decent 8th men to speak of and some half-arsed blindside flankers.

                                  7 is actually one place we do ok.

                                  As for Folau... Well a fullback who can't fucking pass is of questionable value.

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                                  Catogrande
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                                  @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                  When you look at the disparity in pay from the top to bottom, and the net effect of retaining these particular players, you have to ask one question:

                                  "So what?"

                                  Really, if you take out Pocock and Folau are we going to be any more second tier than we are now? We've never paid tight five forwards enough, or given them a decent pathway, to compete at the highest levels consistently. The cupboard is pretty bare on decent inside backs, and we lack pace OR size on the wings. We have no decent 8th men to speak of and some half-arsed blindside flankers.

                                  7 is actually one place we do ok.

                                  As for Folau... Well a fullback who can't fucking pass is of questionable value.

                                  Mike Brown might be available.

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                                  • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                    When you look at the disparity in pay from the top to bottom, and the net effect of retaining these particular players, you have to ask one question:

                                    "So what?"

                                    Really, if you take out Pocock and Folau are we going to be any more second tier than we are now? We've never paid tight five forwards enough, or given them a decent pathway, to compete at the highest levels consistently. The cupboard is pretty bare on decent inside backs, and we lack pace OR size on the wings. We have no decent 8th men to speak of and some half-arsed blindside flankers.

                                    7 is actually one place we do ok.

                                    As for Folau... Well a fullback who can't fucking pass is of questionable value.

                                    Mike Brown might be available.

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                                    NTA
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                                    @Catogrande we've got enough complete twats.

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                                      https://twitter.com/qantaswallabies/status/1101361424092213248

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                                        Do you think 'Cheik' realises that without agent Deans in place we are taking the approach this year of having our Super teams make their ones look good so he reacts by taking the Rebels en masse to Japan?

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                                          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/111120484/matchfixing-concerns-aired-over-wallabies-game-featuring-strange-mistakes

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