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  • BonesB Offline
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    Bones
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    Oh I see, so it's an achievement for Rennie to be recognised for U20s coaching, but not Cooper? I see what's happening here...

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      @broughie said in Nz maori:

      And when given the opportunity to coach the Chiefs his impact was immediate.

      You could say the same for Foster - his first season in charge the Chiefs came 4th. In 2003 the year prior the Chiefs came 10th.

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        @broughie said in Nz maori:

        And when given the opportunity to coach the Chiefs his impact was immediate.

        You could say the same for Foster - his first season in charge the Chiefs came 4th. In 2003 the year prior the Chiefs came 10th.

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        @KiwiMurph Come on. Rennie took his team to a super rugby title then backed it up the next year. Lets compare apples to apples.

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          So John Kirwan is in fact an awesome coach after all? That'll make him feel better about himself.

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              Dixon, who is lacking game time with the AB, could be an useful addition in the backrow for one game or two.

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                Dixon, who is lacking game time with the AB, could be an useful addition in the backrow for one game or two.

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                My head is hurting just reading this thread with the Foster/Rennie diversion.

                Not a bad squad. Let's hope Dixon has better luck leading this team!

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  The difference between Waikato and The Chiefs is not semantics, it is a very fucking important distinction. I'm a Chiefs supporter, but i despise those mooloo bastards and their god-awful jersey.

                  Foster was okay, he got us to a couple of finals series, which was fucking lofty for us then. We played some pretty fun rugby to watch, but when it went wrong (which was often) it was dire. We were the absolute best at being inconsistent, and our set piece was dogshit. Our backlines were often shit hot though.

                  By the end we all wanted rid.

                  Remember someones April Fools on here of Foster getting an AB gig? And we collectively lost our shit? That was pretty funny then. Now? well not so much.

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                  @mariner4life said in Nz maori:

                  The difference between Waikato and The Chiefs is not semantics, it is a very fucking important distinction. I'm a Chiefs supporter, but i despise those mooloo bastards and their god-awful jersey.

                  Bet you love the cow bells though. Who doesn't?

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                    http://twitter.com/NZRugby/status/792055835883110400

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                      http://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/792652089138683904

                      Curtis, bloody hell. What did Jonah Lowe do wrong? 1000 times better than Curtis. Geezz.

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                        http://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/792652089138683904

                        Curtis, bloody hell. What did Jonah Lowe do wrong? 1000 times better than Curtis. Geezz.

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                        @Stargazer Yeah from what I've heard of Lowe, he is one to watch

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                          http://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/792652089138683904

                          Curtis, bloody hell. What did Jonah Lowe do wrong? 1000 times better than Curtis. Geezz.

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                          @Stargazer To be fair to Curtis, he looks to have matured a little as a player from when he was an utter douche playing for Wellington. Still not exactly a player to be worried about if you're in the opposition though.

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                            Been absent from the fern for the past couple of weeks, and after sifting through that schmozzle of everyone jacking off over the favourite coach/bagging the other one, I fucking wish I hadn't come back at all....
                            I tnihk Im' rbain daed afrte thta.

                            Ambrose Curtis, really Colin?

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                              Māori television will broadcast the three Māori All Blacks games, so free to air (delayed, not live) in NZ.

                              http://www.voxy.co.nz/entertainment/5/267162

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                                The Maori All Blacks team (with iwi/tribe) is:

                                1 Kane Hames - Ngai Tuhoe / Ngati Porou
                                2 Ash Dixon (Captain) - Ngati Tahinga
                                3 Ben May - Ngati Maniapoto / Tainui
                                4 Jacob Skeen - Ngapuhi
                                5 Tom Franklin - Ngati Maniapoto
                                6 Elliot Dixon - Ngapuhi
                                7 Kara Pryor * - Ngati Awa / Ngati Pikiao / Ngati Rangitihi
                                8 Akira Ioane - Ngapuhi / Te Whanau a Apanui
                                9 Tawera Kerr-Barlow - Waikato / Ngati Maniapoto
                                10 Ihaia West - Ngati Kahungunu / Ngati Porou
                                11 James Lowe - Ngapuhi / Ngai Te Rangi
                                12 Tim Bateman - Ngai Tahu
                                13 Matt Proctor - Ngapuhi / Ngaiterangi
                                14 Rieko Ioane - Ngapuhi / Te Whanau a Apanui
                                15 Damian McKenzie - Ngati Tuwharetoa / Ngati Tahinga

                                16 Joe Royal - Te Arawa / Ngati Whatua o Orakei / Ngapuhi
                                17 Chris Eves - Waikato / Tainui
                                18 Marcel Renata * - Ngati Whanaunga / Te Aupouri
                                19 Leighton Price * - Waikato / Ngati Maniapoto
                                20 Shane Christie - Te Ati Haunui a Paparangi / Ngati Kurawhatia
                                21 Brad Weber - Ngati Porou
                                22 Marty McKenzie - Ngati Tuwharetoa / Ngati Tahinga
                                23 Sean Wainui - Ngai Tuhoe / Te Aitanga a Mahaki/Nga Arikikaiputahi/Ngati Porou

                                • denotes new Maori All Blacks cap

                                With a number of All Blacks being made available this week, Head Coach Colin Cooper (Ngati Pukenga/Ngati Porou) has named four All Blacks in his run-on side for Friday night. All four All Blacks - Elliot Dixon, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Rieko Ioane, and Damian McKenzie – played for the Maori All Blacks last year.

                                Their re-entry into the Maori All Blacks also means a family reunion for brothers Akira and Rieko Ioane, and Marty and Damian McKenzie.

                                “These guys are all familiar with our environment so we know that they are able to move between the All Blacks and our squad with great ease. The Maori All Blacks is another home for those guys.

                                “This is the most experienced squad we’ve had for a while, and many of the players who played for us last year have stepped up a level from there. It means that we have a really experienced playing 23, with only three new caps, starting with Kara Pryor who had a very good season with the Blues and then carried that into the Mitre 10 Cup. He was close to being named in the squad last year but was injured so it’s good to be able to give him a start.

                                “The other two, Marcel Renata and Leighton Price, will come off the bench this Friday; they played well in Mitre 10 Cup and it’s good to be able to give them a chance to earn a cap for this team.

                                “Ash Dixon takes on the captaincy duties this year but really he’s been part of the set up for a while. He has experience as a leader on the field, and with former captain Tim Bateman back in the mix, I know that the team will have some really solid decision makers on the field,” he said.

                                The preparation time in Chicago has been good and they were clear about their game plan.

                                “The main focus will be on playing our game and making sure we give the USA due respect. We’ve have had a look at them and they have a big raw game, a big pack and we will need to play with some structure. We will want to have a good focus on attack and defend with a lot of go forward.”

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                                  #108

                                  Strong squad when you add TKB, Elliot Dixon, Reiko Ioane and McKenzie in!

                                  Bit tough on USA when they don't even have their European stars!

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                                    Strong squad when you add TKB, Elliot Dixon, Reiko Ioane and McKenzie in!

                                    Bit tough on USA when they don't even have their European stars!

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                                    @Frye Guaranteed game time for Tony Lamborn (Magpies) and Chris Baumann (Wellington Lions). The rest won't know what's happening to them haha

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                                    • F Frye

                                      Strong squad when you add TKB, Elliot Dixon, Reiko Ioane and McKenzie in!

                                      Bit tough on USA when they don't even have their European stars!

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                                      @Frye agree very strong squad, reckon with our line out options looking thin, Dixon might have been an option for the ABs given he was the most used kiwi forward in super rugby

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                                        DMac at 15 shows to me that the AB coaches don't see him as a potential AB 10 (other than in case of emergency); otherwise they would have given him a run in the 10 jersey for the Maori team and not a start at 15. They may move him to 10 when/if West is subbed off and MMac comes on.

                                        Also no Codie Taylor (or Dane Coles) in the Maori line-up as they suggested at the team naming. Most of us assumed that would be Taylor on the bench, and that would have resulted in Coltman making his AB debut against Ireland. Either Coles and Taylor will both play for the ABs, or one of them will get a rest (unless there is an injury we don't know about).

                                        If there was still any doubt, this line-up also clearly shows that TKB has been overtaken by TJP.

                                        I assume Bateman is vc?

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          DMac at 15 shows to me that the AB coaches don't see him as a potential AB 10 (other than in case of emergency); otherwise they would have given him a run in the 10 jersey for the Maori team and not a start at 15. They may move him to 10 when/if West is subbed off and MMac comes on.

                                          Also no Codie Taylor (or Dane Coles) in the Maori line-up as they suggested at the team naming. Most of us assumed that would be Taylor on the bench, and that would have resulted in Coltman making his AB debut against Ireland. Either Coles and Taylor will both play for the ABs, or one of them will get a rest (unless there is an injury we don't know about).

                                          If there was still any doubt, this line-up also clearly shows that TKB has been overtaken by TJP.

                                          I assume Bateman is vc?

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                                          @Stargazer said in Nz maori:

                                          DMac at 15 shows to me that the AB coaches don't see him as a potential AB 10 (other than in case of emergency); otherwise they would have given him a run in the 10 jersey for the Maori team and not a start at 15. They may move him to 10 when/if West is subbed off and MMac comes on.

                                          Also no Codie Taylor (or Dane Coles) in the Maori line-up as they suggested at the team naming. Most of us assumed that would be Taylor on the bench, and that would have resulted in Coltman making his AB debut against Ireland. Either Coles and Taylor will both play for the ABs, or one of them will get a rest (unless there is an injury we don't know about).

                                          If there was still any doubt, this line-up also clearly shows that TKB has been overtaken by TJP.

                                          Not sure I agree with your conclusions in some of that. The AB coaches will be looking to make sure DMac gets game time no matter what position. This is Coopers team and he will call the shots not the ABs. Cooper will need to give MMac time at 10 as well.

                                          TKB is always a horses for courses pick for the ABs and (I think) is still a likely against France.

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