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    DMac at 15 shows to me that the AB coaches don't see him as a potential AB 10 (other than in case of emergency); otherwise they would have given him a run in the 10 jersey for the Maori team and not a start at 15. They may move him to 10 when/if West is subbed off and MMac comes on.

    Also no Codie Taylor (or Dane Coles) in the Maori line-up as they suggested at the team naming. Most of us assumed that would be Taylor on the bench, and that would have resulted in Coltman making his AB debut against Ireland. Either Coles and Taylor will both play for the ABs, or one of them will get a rest (unless there is an injury we don't know about).

    If there was still any doubt, this line-up also clearly shows that TKB has been overtaken by TJP.

    I assume Bateman is vc?

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    @Stargazer said in Nz maori:

    DMac at 15 shows to me that the AB coaches don't see him as a potential AB 10 (other than in case of emergency); otherwise they would have given him a run in the 10 jersey for the Maori team and not a start at 15. They may move him to 10 when/if West is subbed off and MMac comes on.

    Also no Codie Taylor (or Dane Coles) in the Maori line-up as they suggested at the team naming. Most of us assumed that would be Taylor on the bench, and that would have resulted in Coltman making his AB debut against Ireland. Either Coles and Taylor will both play for the ABs, or one of them will get a rest (unless there is an injury we don't know about).

    If there was still any doubt, this line-up also clearly shows that TKB has been overtaken by TJP.

    Not sure I agree with your conclusions in some of that. The AB coaches will be looking to make sure DMac gets game time no matter what position. This is Coopers team and he will call the shots not the ABs. Cooper will need to give MMac time at 10 as well.

    TKB is always a horses for courses pick for the ABs and (I think) is still a likely against France.

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      Anyone know what time nztime this kicks off. Not listed on ab site and google has not been my friend

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        I think kickoff is 7pm Friday Chicago time which is 1pm NZ time Saturday

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          Anyone know what time nztime this kicks off. Not listed on ab site and google has not been my friend

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          @Rembrandt I have posted all NZ kick-off times, broadcast times and channels (including first replays) in the first post of the 2016 End-of-year internationals thread (as far as they are known yet):

          http://www.thesilverfern.com/topic/1119/2016-end-of-year-internationals?page=1

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            USA Eagles team named to play the Māori All Blacks:

            1. Titi Lamositele
            2. James Hilterbrand
            3. Chris Baumann
            4. Nate Brakeley
            5. Nick Civetta
            6. Todd Clever(C)
            7. Tony Lamborn
            8. Danny Barrett
            9. Nate Augspurger
            10. Will Holder
            11. Matai Leuta
            12. Folau Niua
            13. Bryce Campbell
            14. Martin Iosefo
            15. Mike Te'o

            Reserves
            16. Joe Taufete'e
            17. Angus MacLellan
            18. Alex Maughan
            19. Matthew Jensen
            20. Al McFarland
            21. Stephen Tomasin
            22. Shalom Suniula
            23. Madison Hughes

            http://www.usarugby.org/2016/11/eagles-named-for-expected-sellout-in-chicago/

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              DMac at 15 shows to me that the AB coaches don't see him as a potential AB 10 (other than in case of emergency); otherwise they would have given him a run in the 10 jersey for the Maori team and not a start at 15. They may move him to 10 when/if West is subbed off and MMac comes on.

              Also no Codie Taylor (or Dane Coles) in the Maori line-up as they suggested at the team naming. Most of us assumed that would be Taylor on the bench, and that would have resulted in Coltman making his AB debut against Ireland. Either Coles and Taylor will both play for the ABs, or one of them will get a rest (unless there is an injury we don't know about).

              If there was still any doubt, this line-up also clearly shows that TKB has been overtaken by TJP.

              I assume Bateman is vc?

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              @Stargazer said in Nz maori:

              DMac at 15 shows to me that the AB coaches don't see him as a potential AB 10 (other than in case of emergency); otherwise they would have given him a run in the 10 jersey for the Maori team and not a start at 15.

              I don't think they would see him as a serious option at 10, at present. His time at 10 at even Super level would measure minutes - if he's played there at all? He played a couple of Mitre10 Cup games there, but I don't think he set the world on fire. Surely they wouldn't really look at him as a potential 10 until he'd at least played some significant time there at Super level.

              I'd say he's very much a work in progress for the ABs, but definitely a 15 at present, who may have potential to develop into a 10. Taking a sort of Beauden Barrett path.

              My personal view is that he'll need to take this 10 path, because he's not going to be tall enough to consistently play fullback (compete in the air) against the big boys. A couple of years down the track he might be competing with the 6ft 5" Jordi Barrett (same height as Folau?).

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                looking forward to seeing that loose trio in action eh, the 4 spares have turned that into a strong side.

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                  Live Stream details are now available for this match, AU$4.97

                  https://allblacks.com/TeamAllBlacks/MaoriAllBlacks-v-USA

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                    Stream picturing is working great but no audio

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                      Ok now have audio

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                        Crystal clear stream. Well done NZR

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                          It's On!

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                            Game of force back so far..

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                              The Ioanes save the Maoris blushes early on

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                                I'd forgotten the seppos are sponsored by Heathrow Express... kinda odd, but kinda makes sense.

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                                  Nice bust DMac aiided by Ash D = LOWE IN!

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                                    Ihaia West kicking well. Brought his kicking boots to Chicago!?

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                                      Hungus Ioane try

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                                        Hungus Ioane try

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                                        @Kruse said in Nz maori:

                                        Hungus Ioane try

                                        Hoi, the Hungus title is reserved for Chiefs outside backs!!!

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                                          The NZ team seem to like kicking a lot.

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