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Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown & Dublin Duel

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    I guess playing Sam and BBBR 80 minutes every week without developing a backup lock that can start a test has hurt us a bit here. We had to go for our impact lock and a loosie and they've both struggled. Our lineout has cost us good ball and possesion at crucial moments.

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      we are losing the battle at lineout time, at the breakdown, territory and in the air...and the most important one, on the scoreboard.

      Irish fully deserving of thier lead, in fact they probably deserved to be beyond 3 scores.

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        At least we didn't play this badly vs Australia. For some reason I don't feel that bad losing to Ireland who to be fair have outplayed us easily.

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        • RapidoR Offline
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          Halftime stats:

          We've only lost 3 of our own lineouts? Seemed more.

          Possession. Ire 63% to NZ 37%

          Turnovers 7 to 1.

          Only territory relatively even.

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            They should have replaced Retallick and Whitelock, with Barrett and Bird.
            Kaino should have started at 6; Todd at 7.
            TJ should have started at 9, ALB at 13.
            They should have replaced Julian with Naholo, not Dagg.

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            • No QuarterN No Quarter

              I guess playing Sam and BBBR 80 minutes every week without developing a backup lock that can start a test has hurt us a bit here. We had to go for our impact lock and a loosie and they've both struggled. Our lineout has cost us good ball and possesion at crucial moments.

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              @No-Quarter said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

              I guess playing Sam and BBBR 80 minutes every week without developing a backup lock that can start a test has hurt us a bit here. We had to go for our impact lock and a loosie and they've both struggled. Our lineout has cost us good ball and possesion at crucial moments.

              The Romano bereavement took out that third option.

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              • No QuarterN No Quarter

                @kiwiinmelb said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

                WTF is going on in the lineouts ?

                I think I read we are missing a couple of locks to injury...

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                @No-Quarter said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

                @kiwiinmelb said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

                WTF is going on in the lineouts ?

                I think I read we are missing a couple of locks to injury...

                Yeah sure that will weaken things, but I dont buy that as an excuse for how bad they went

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                  A week of enjoying themselves hasn't helped with their focus. Hard to blame them though considering the run, even Ab's need some time off. I think.

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                  • chimoausC chimoaus

                    At least we didn't play this badly vs Australia. For some reason I don't feel that bad losing to Ireland who to be fair have outplayed us easily.

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                    @chimoaus said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

                    At least we didn't play this badly vs Australia. For some reason I don't feel that bad losing to Ireland who to be fair have outplayed us easily.

                    Coles is a great player but I feel we need a hooker who plays a bit tighter and closer to the rucks for this type of game . Am not sure if Taylor is that man though.

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                    • LagerLoutL LagerLout

                      A week of enjoying themselves hasn't helped with their focus. Hard to blame them though considering the run, even Ab's need some time off. I think.

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                      @LagerLout said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

                      A week of enjoying themselves hasn't helped with their focus. Hard to blame them though considering the run, even Ab's need some time off. I think.

                      I'd really love some more Facebook images of them enoying themselves at the basketball and at a day off with Addidas. If only they hadn't been buried in all the training field images...

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                        Flush that first half down the dunny.

                        We can still win from here, a couple of quick tries and we're right back in it.
                        We still have the players who have specialised in scoring quick tries back to back to back, they haven't got shit overnight, they just need to play some smarter rugby.

                        Optimistic still, but that might change very quickly if we pick up where we left off....

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                        • chimoausC Offline
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                          #466

                          Foster summed it up. We need to win lineouts and improve discipline.

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                          • boobooB booboo

                            Lineout needs some work ...

                            Ireland playing well. Not giving away possession.

                            We are though.

                            Not sure of the fix apart from perhaps Barrett to try to fix the lineout.

                            I'm almost resigned to this one now.

                            But being a NZer you only write the ABs off when we're 3 tries down with 30s left ...

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                            @booboo said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

                            But being a NZer you only write the ABs off when we're 3 tries down with 30s left ...

                            Even then....

                            Coles hasn't run with the ball once I reckon.

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                            • No QuarterN Offline
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                              #468

                              It's amazing Ireland has never beaten us before.

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                                Pot Hale has some cash in the result too?

                                I honestly thought Irekand would be too rusty to take advantage of our weakest lineup of the year. Injuries biting for the first time in ages.

                                So credit to Scmidt and the Irish players for looking like they're playing their 3rd week not their first.

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                                  According to the commentators, Crotty has a hamstring injury.

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                                    Donsteppa
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                                    #471

                                    Ah, so Pat T has done something. Buttered his hands at half time that is.

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                                      No Quarter
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                                      Grrrr Pat T that's criminal right when we looked good.

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                                        why cut in Naholo

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                                          Oh! Just noticed! We have our white numbers back!

                                          And white fern, no grey.

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