Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown & Dublin Duel
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5 metres narrower?
Well there's our out clause!
Ireland have yet to beat the Allblacks on a proper rugby field.
The record still stands!
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5 metres narrower?
Well there's our out clause!
Ireland have yet to beat the Allblacks on a proper rugby field.
The record still stands!
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:
5 metres narrower?
Well there's our out clause!
Ireland have yet to beat the Allblacks on a proper rugby field.
The record still stands!
Win with an asterisk*
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Loved the Irish approach to be honest. No crap talk before the game, no stupid niggle during the game. They just smashed the ABs in the tackle and the breakdown, took their chances and afterwards shook hands. What a difference to the Aussies, huh?
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I get where Sir Brian is coming from but I don't really tactics is the problem so much as the execution. The AB game plan is very simple but horrendously difficult to pull off. Everything has to function as planned and there is very little room for error.
Perhaps the RC heroics have taken their toll and while the mind is willing the body is screaming for a rest? You can't play like that for that long without there being consequences.
This kind of reminds me of the 1997 team. They carved up during the 3N but had very little left in the tank when they went north.
We have been like that for awhile to be honest.
We have been peaking for the RC (rightly so) but then away tour (always incl. arg &USA away) means we have something like 7 away tests in 9 weeks and that also includes a increase games in Super rugby.
We haven't been at our best in the Nh since the Henry days.
How many games has guys like Barrett played for example?
We like to think we are at the forefront of player welfare but we are puting some big workloads on ABs
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http://www.theroar.com.au/2016/11/08/rugby-weekend-chicago/
Bloody good read. Don't like the stuff about kaino though
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http://www.theroar.com.au/2016/11/08/rugby-weekend-chicago/
Bloody good read. Don't like the stuff about kaino though
@Billy-Tell said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:
http://www.theroar.com.au/2016/11/08/rugby-weekend-chicago/
Bloody good read. Don't like the stuff about kaino though
We need to find someone to fill his shoes but it is no surprise he is breaking down. He gave us a second RWC though (2015) after his Japan vacation so all's fair
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We have been like that for awhile to be honest.
We have been peaking for the RC (rightly so) but then away tour (always incl. arg &USA away) means we have something like 7 away tests in 9 weeks and that also includes a increase games in Super rugby.
We haven't been at our best in the Nh since the Henry days.
How many games has guys like Barrett played for example?
We like to think we are at the forefront of player welfare but we are puting some big workloads on ABs
@da_grubster said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:
How many games has guys like Barrett played for example?
We like to think we are at the forefront of player welfare but we are puting some big workloads on ABs
They seem to track the player workload/output more than ever before.
On Barrett, he's played 11 tests this year and every super rugby game (18 matches). So 29 matches. He's been pretty injury free this year so available for selection. He's started pretty much all those matches bar a couple of early season tests against Wales. He played 80 almost every week for the Canes and has only been subbed off three times in test matches.
On the face of it, it does seem like a lot of rugby. Back in 2012 when the Chiefs won the title, Cruden played every super game (17 matches) and also played in 11 tests.
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Couple of interesting articles from 42. At least one of the Irish tries involved some crafty interference! http://www.the42.ie/analysis-how-did-ireland-beat-the-all-blacks-2016-3070365-Nov2016/ Late five metre scrum would appear to have arsien by Bus's wrong call to ignore the wide open side. http://www.the42.ie/analysis-ireland-new-zealand-henshaw-try-3067060-Nov2016/
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@da_grubster said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:
How many games has guys like Barrett played for example?
We like to think we are at the forefront of player welfare but we are puting some big workloads on ABs
They seem to track the player workload/output more than ever before.
On Barrett, he's played 11 tests this year and every super rugby game (18 matches). So 29 matches. He's been pretty injury free this year so available for selection. He's started pretty much all those matches bar a couple of early season tests against Wales. He played 80 almost every week for the Canes and has only been subbed off three times in test matches.
On the face of it, it does seem like a lot of rugby. Back in 2012 when the Chiefs won the title, Cruden played every super game (17 matches) and also played in 11 tests.
So Barrett will pay 31 games this by the looks of it. That's a big workload by modern standards.
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So Barrett will pay 31 games this by the looks of it. That's a big workload by modern standards.
@da_grubster is it, well for NZ players?
Dont Europe based players play closer to 40 games a year?
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@da_grubster is it, well for NZ players?
Dont Europe based players play closer to 40 games a year?
@taniwharugby Doesn't that depend on how much they rotate players? In France, rotation is fucking annoying.
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So Barrett will pay 31 games this by the looks of it. That's a big workload by modern standards.
@da_grubster will he play against France?
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One thing I haven't seen commented on is (amazing to note) how well Ofa T went at LH in Chicago. Before the last Irish try the Irish replacement TH was lifted completely off the ground. And tidy at TH against Italy, albeit they are not the scrummaging team they were. Huge around the park, so worth persevering with.
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Yep Ofa T has scrummed well for the ABs. He looks like a natural replacement for Faumuina if he heads overseas post Lions.
The problem is he suffers from a lag - fans remember his early career form and reputations stick. Same thing happened to Toeava and TKB (his first AB end of year tour).
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Yep Ofa T has scrummed well for the ABs. He looks like a natural replacement for Faumuina if he heads overseas post Lions.
The problem is he suffers from a lag - fans remember his early career form and reputations stick. Same thing happened to Toeava and TKB (his first AB end of year tour).
@KiwiMurph said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:
Yep Ofa T has scrummed well for the ABs. He looks like a natural replacement for Faumuina if he heads overseas post Lions.
The problem is he suffers from a lag - fans remember his early career form and reputations stick. Same thing happened to Toeava and TKB (his first AB end of year tour).
Isn't he the same age that Charlie was when he couldn't even get an Auckland contract?
Massive upside to Ofa.
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Yep Ofa T has scrummed well for the ABs. He looks like a natural replacement for Faumuina if he heads overseas post Lions.
The problem is he suffers from a lag - fans remember his early career form and reputations stick. Same thing happened to Toeava and TKB (his first AB end of year tour).
@KiwiMurph Yep true. Ofa's scrummaging went alright during the Super Rugby season. There were 2 games where he got dominated which were against the Reds where he and Charlie were taught a lesson (as were most scrums that came up against the Reds), and the Waratahs in the last round which stuck out badly for him as he had just been called up to the ABs but other than that his scrummaging has been fine.
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The thing about good props is that they take a few hidings in the scrum before they become the real deal. It seems to be a rights of passage thing. I remember Steve McDowell getting absolutely monstered in SA (Cavaliers?) but came back the few years unmovable. Crockett got a beating from that scruffy Italian dude (illegally according to some but he failed to adjust). The best props learn their trade by coming up and learning from older bulls and are better for it.
