2016-2017 provincial & club sevens

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@Crucial said in 2016-2017 provincial & club sevens:

How did those pools get set for the men's comp? Drawn from a hat? They seem very lopsided.
Without knowing too much about the squads this year I would imagine the best three teams are all in the same pool going by previous years.

I found this explanation of the seeding on the Wairarapa Bush website; I assume it's the same for all regional tournaments, not just the central zone tournament.

The seedings have been determined as follows;

* Finishing position at the 2016 National Sevens;
* Any teams that did not participate at the 2016 National Sevens will be ranked based on their finishing position at the previous year’s Central Region Sevens; and
* Any teams that did not participate at the previous year’s Central Region Sevens will be ranked based on finishing position in the most recent relevant domestic 15s competition (with the Premier Competition ranked above the Heartland Championship).
* In 2017 only the two additional Women’s teams will be allocated seedings as follows: Central 4 (11th seed) and Northern 5 (12th seed).

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Most team line-ups are now available. I have added them to my earlier posts.

[Stockcar86]

East Coast mens have withdrawn - new Central draw is

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@Stockcar86 Yep, had edited my earlier post to include the current pools and draw.

[Bovidae]

@Crucial Note that the teams from pool 1 only play the teams from pool 2 so the seedings are an artificial way for the best teams to avoid playing eachother until the final.

[Crucial]

@Bovidae said in 2016-2017 provincial & club sevens:

@Crucial Note that the teams from pool 1 only play the teams from pool 2 so the seedings are an artificial way for the best teams to avoid playing eachother until the final.

That explains it. Thanks.
What an odd way?

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Central Region 7s

Women's results:

Wellington 31 - 12 Taranaki
Manawatu 29 - 5 Poverty Bay

Taranaki 26 - 5 Wanganui
Hawkes Bay 19 - 7 Poverty Bay

Wanganui 0 - 39 Wellington
Manawatu 31 - 7 Hawke's Bay

PF1
Hawke's Bay 26 - 5 Wanganui
PF2
Taranaki 26 - 12 Poverty Bay

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Central Region 7s

Men's results:

Hawke's Bay 21 - 14 Horowhenua Kapiti
Wellington 19 - 19 Wanganui
Taranaki 29 - 12 Poverty Bay
Manawatu 19 - 7 Wairarapa-Bush

Wellington 21 - 19 Hawke's Bay
Wanganui 0 - Horo-Kap 19
Manawatu 14 - 24 Taranaki
Poverty Bay 7 - Wai-Bush 33

Wellington 48 - 0 Horowhenua Kapiti
Wanganui 12 - Hawke's Bay 15
Manawatu 26 - 7 Poverty Bay
Taranaki 36 - 7 Wai-Bush

PF1
Wanganui 5 - 12 Wai-Bush
PF2
Horowhenua-Kapiti 24 - 14 Poverty Bay

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Central Region 7s

Women

SF1
Wellington 39 - 7 Hawke's Bay
SF2
Manawatu 26 - 0 Taranaki

3rd/4th play-off
Hawke's Bay 5 - 17 Taranaki

Final
Wellington 5 - 26 Manawatu

Qualified:
1st: Manawatu
2nd: Wellington
3rd: Taranaki
4th: Hawke's Bay

Men

SF1
Wellington 21 - 5 Manawatu
SF2
Hawke's Bay 0 - 34 Taranaki

5th/6th play-off
Wairarapa Bush 7 - 14 Horowhenua-Kapiti

3rd/4th play-off
Manawatu 12 - 21 Hawke's Bay

Final
Wellington 33 - 5 Taranaki

Qualified:
1st: Wellington
2nd: Taranaki
3rd: Hawke's Bay
4th: Manawatu
5th: Horowhenua-Kapiti

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I hope the games are fun to watch at the Northern Regionals, because these pool games are so predictable.

Both in the men's and women's tournament, the Pool 1 teams have beaten the Pool 2 teams. Hope the next round brings some surprises! Or that those pool 1 teams shred each other to pieces during the final stages. May not happen, considering they are qualified for the Nationals anyway.

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Northern Region Sevens

Women's results:

Counties Manukau 26 - 5 Auckland
North Harbour 24 - 10 Northland
Bay of Plenty 23 - 14 Waikato

Counties Manukau 38 - 7 Waikato
North Harbour 20 - 0 Auckland
Bay of Plenty 50 - 0 Northland

Counties Manukau 67 - 0 Northland
North Harbour 10 - 31 Waikato
Bay of Plenty 24 - 5 Auckland

Men' results:

Counties Manukau 17 - 12 Bay of Plenty
Auckland 19 - 5 Northland
Waikato 31 - 19 North Harbour

Counties Manukau 28 - 7 North Harbour
Auckland 14 - 26 Bay of Plenty
Waikato 24 - 21 Northland

Counties Manukau 10 - 22 Northland
Auckland 22 - 5 North Harbour
Waikato 31 - 7 Bay of Plenty

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Northern Region Sevens

Remaining results:

Women
SF1: Counties Manukau 28 - 0 Auckland
SF2: Waikato 12 - 24 Bay of Plenty

5th & 6th play-off: North Harbour 40 - 7 Northland
3rd & 4th play-off: Auckland 5 - 19 Waikato

Final:
Counties Manukau 31 - 19 Bay of Plenty

Qualified:
1st: Counties Manukau
2nd: Bay of Plenty
3rd: Waikato
4th: Auckland
5th: North Harbour

Men
SF1: Waikato 26 - 7 Bay of Plenty
SF2: Northland 24 - 10 Auckland

5th & 6th play-off: Counties Manukau 29 - 7 North Harbour
3rd & 4th play-off: Bay of Plenty 29 - 17 Auckland

Final:
Waikato 31 - 17 Northland

Qualified:
1st: Waikato
2nd: Northland
3rd: Bay of Plenty
4th: Auckland
5th: Counties Manukau
6th: North Harbour

[Bovidae]

I watched the SF and finals replays last night without knowing any results apart from the mens final.

I thought Guildford looked good for Waikato so it will be interesting to see how he goes at the nationals. Northland must have been the surprise team to make the SFs ahead of CM and then get to the final. Auckland were poor in their SF vs Northland.

[taniwharugby]

@Bovidae we've had some decent results in 7s the past few years, although like our 15s, very inconsistent, I mean we got dealt to in pool play by Auckland and then beat them in the semi...that said, I think we have had the wood on CM most years though??

What is interesting, is there are a good portion of our guys are those form our Mitre 10 Cup squad, whereas most of the others don't appear to have that many involved?

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@taniwharugby You're right. Most squads seemed to include club and school players, who didn't play Mitre 10 Cup. For Mitre 10 Cup teams with a lot of All Blacks, Maori All Blacks, All Black 7s or Super Rugby players that's unavoidable. I wonder whether any of the All Blacks 7s players will be released to play the Nationals? The Nationals are 2 weeks before the Wellington 7s.

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@Stargazer other thing is, most of our guys are the ones involved in our team last year too, so looks like a vehicle for keeping these guys involved and fit as much as anything.

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As I hoped, All Blacks 7s players have been released to play at the Nationals (assuming not only Waikato get their AB7s back):

Success at the tournament, played at Memorial Park in Cambridge on Sunday, means the Mooloos qualified for nationals as the region's top seed, with co-coach Roger Randle revealing they will have New Zealand sevens stars - Tim Mikkelson, DJ Collier and Isaac Te Tamaki - available for the tournament in Rotorua on January 14-15.

Former All Black Zac Guildford and Waikato Mitre 10 Cup winger Sevu Reece impressed - the latter finishing as the tournament's top scorer (7) - but co-coach Roger Randle praised the efforts of each member of his 12-man squad, who went unbeaten throughout the competition

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/sevens/87459749/waikato-qualify-for-nationals-as-a-top-seed-after-winning-northern-region-sevens

[Bovidae]

Excellent news. The Nationals need to have the best sevens players playing in it to give the tournament some credibility.

[Crucial]

Did I miss the announcement of Zac G playing for Waikato now? Last I heard he was running around in the Wairarapa Bush mud.
If he still has some zip about his play the Sevens could be a good place for him to shine.

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@Crucial said in 2016-2017 provincial & club sevens:

Did I miss the announcement of Zac G playing for Waikato now? Last I heard he was running around in the Wairarapa Bush mud.
If he still has some zip about his play the Sevens could be a good place for him to shine.

LOL, yes, just read back this thread ... @Bovidae posted a link to an article on stuff ...

He was very good on Sunday, especially in combo with Reece. I don't know enough about 7s, particularly which players play at which positions in the NZ team, so I wouldn't know who he would replace if he was picked for the team.

Edit: ZG was wearing the 6 jersey for Waikato.