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Black Caps v Pakistan

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  • GunnerG Gunner

    Kane has won a toss. Well actually Misbah lost it and unsurprisingly we're having a bowl.

    Jeet Raval and Colin de Grandhomme both debut for New Zealand. Neesham is not playing, neither is Matt Henry.

    What has CdG done to leapfrog Neesham in the pecking order?
    Is Neesham out of form?

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    @Gunner said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    Kane has won a toss. Well actually Misbah lost it and unsurprisingly we're having a bowl.

    Jeet Raval and Colin de Grandhomme both debut for New Zealand. Neesham is not playing, neither is Matt Henry.

    What has CdG done to leapfrog Neesham in the pecking order?
    Is Neesham out of form?

    The selection lotto continues.

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      Little Kane wins a toss and we will bowl. de Grandhomme and Wagner are in - Neesham and Henry are not.

      Not the choice I would have made for the middle order. I would have barely given Neesham over de Grandhomme a second thought, but let's see Colin prove me wrong.

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        de Grandhomme is a very strange selection.

        Very disappointed again that Henry isnt in the team, this is exactly the type of pitch that suits him.

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          Having CdG there smacks of them picking an allrounder just for the sake of having an allrounder.

          If they didn't want Neesham, I'd prefer they picked Henry.
          BJ moved up to 6, Astle 7, Henry 8, Wagner 9, Southee 10, Boult 11.

          Still a decent lower order that can probably all pitch in to score any runs we miss out on by not having an allrounder.

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            We start with a pretty poor review. Hits the batsman above the knee-roll and clearly leg side-ish. I wouldn't have given it in real time and the DRS shows the ball missing the stumps.

            We need to watch Steve Smith on reviews - almost never review an lbw - particularly never on line.

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              Not watching but reading Cricinfo's description of Southee's second over: 4 down leg, 1 short and 1 good delivery outside off.

              That about sums up what he's been serving up the past couple of years.

              Henry > Southee.

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                #91

                From Cricinfo: "Southee hasn't conceded a run yet, but hasn't looked threatening at all. Such a weird start.."

                Never mind, he'll keep getting picked till there's eventually a performance to justify it.

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                • GunnerG Gunner

                  Having CdG there smacks of them picking an allrounder just for the sake of having an allrounder.

                  If they didn't want Neesham, I'd prefer they picked Henry.
                  BJ moved up to 6, Astle 7, Henry 8, Wagner 9, Southee 10, Boult 11.

                  Still a decent lower order that can probably all pitch in to score any runs we miss out on by not having an allrounder.

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                  @Gunner said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                  Having CdG there smacks of them picking an allrounder just for the sake of having an allrounder.

                  If they didn't want Neesham, I'd prefer they picked Henry.
                  BJ moved up to 6, Astle 7, Henry 8, Wagner 9, Southee 10, Boult 11.

                  Still a decent lower order that can probably all pitch in to score any runs we miss out on by not having an allrounder.

                  Does a guy who has taken 51 wickets in 44 first class matches have a good enough bowling record to be considered an "all rounder" ?

                  He does in New Zealand.

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                    At least Neesham is there to bowl tidily at first change. Oh hang on, it's someone going for 5.5 an over who isn't called Wagner...

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                      #94

                      YES!! A wicket jinx!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                        I've only been watching a little bit, but the commentators saying both Southee and Boult off their games - Southee particularly.

                        I was about to come and type that de Grandhomme looks innocuous, when he goes straight through Azhar, so lucky I didn't do that!

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          I've only been watching a little bit, but the commentators saying both Southee and Boult off their games - Southee particularly.

                          I was about to come and type that de Grandhomme looks innocuous, when he goes straight through Azhar, so lucky I didn't do that!

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                          @Chris-B. said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                          I've only been watching a little bit, but the commentators saying both Southee and Boult off their games - Southee particularly.

                          I was about to come and type that de Grandhomme looks innocuous, when he goes straight through Azhar, so lucky I didn't do that!

                          I wonder what sort of mug would say such a thing. Though I've yet to jinx Southee into form despite trying for months now. I'll keep working on it...

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                            #97

                            Nice work guys keep writing de Grandhomme off please.

                            Bloody part timer, that wicket was nothing more then beginners luck. Pakistan will dine out on his pies for the rest of the day.

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                              Bring Back Bond.

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                              • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                Bring Back Bond.

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                                @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                Bring Back Bond.

                                That fucker is sitting in the commentary box telling me what they're doing wrong. Tell someone that can do something about it Shane!

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                                  @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                  Bring Back Bond.

                                  That fucker is sitting in the commentary box telling me what they're doing wrong. Tell someone that can do something about it Shane!

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                                  @Chris-B. said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                  @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                  Bring Back Bond.

                                  That fucker is sitting in the commentary box telling me what they're doing wrong. Tell someone that can do something about it Shane!

                                  it could have been him if he wasn't such a judas

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                                    #101

                                    Does that wicket count as jinxing Southee into form and/or selection for the foreseeable future?

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                                    • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                      Nice work guys keep writing de Grandhomme off please.

                                      Bloody part timer, that wicket was nothing more then beginners luck. Pakistan will dine out on his pies for the rest of the day.

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                                      @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                      Nice work guys keep writing de Grandhomme off please.

                                      Bloody part timer, that wicket was nothing more then beginners luck. Pakistan will dine out on his pies for the rest of the day.

                                      You can claim credit for his second wicket.....

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                                        you guys are killing it. CdG and Southee copping heaps of shit for being bang average. And lo we have 3 wickets between then. Top work Ferners

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                                          de Grandhomme destroying them.

                                          I fucking told those fluffybunnies at St. Albans that I could play test cricket, but noooo, you just bowl dribbly medium pace- you're not even getting a bowl in club cricket!

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