All Blacks v Ireland II
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@Toddy said in Ireland II:
Fekitoa and Cane have both been cited for alleged dangerous tackles.
Sounds like something Aaron Smith could get done for.
Inevitable really, given the footage and the fuss they made about high tackles before the series. Surprised they didn't look at Sexton's too and maybe even Coles' (was it Coles? Can't remember).
Even though it's a ridiculous decision, Cane can't play anyway. Not surprised that Fekitoa was cited. His absence will be more of an issue if Crotty isn't fit. Ioane is still green as.
I remember an illegal shoulder charge clean-out by Toner that wasn't even penalised. It was similar to de Jager's in Durban.
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I think Malakai will cop this one for the team. Cane cited just to shut the feral Irish fans up so Fekitoa will get a decent punishment to keep them quiet.
Cane being cited is a black mark against O'Peyper and the TMO though. Basically it is saying that what they deemed as a penalty only was actually worthy of a RC. It's no as if there is further evidence than what they both saw.
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I think Malakai will cop this one for the team. Cane cited just to shut the feral Irish fans up so Fekitoa will get a decent punishment to keep them quiet.
Cane being cited is a black mark against O'Peyper and the TMO though. Basically it is saying that what they deemed as a penalty only was actually worthy of a RC. It's no as if there is further evidence than what they both saw.
@Crucial said in Ireland II:
I think Malakai will cop this one for the team. Cane cited just to shut the feral Irish fans up so Fekitoa will get a decent punishment to keep them quiet.
Cane being cited is a black mark against O'Peyper and the TMO though. Basically it is saying that what they deemed as a penalty only was actually worthy of a RC. It's no as if there is further evidence than what they both saw.
Same thing happened in the Six Nations between England and Ireland. Ref and TMO looked at multiple angles of Brown kicking at the ball with Murray on the floor, decided no action was needed. Citing commissioner disagreed (although it was eventually dropped).
It's not a great look for the refs involved, but it has precedent.
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@Crucial said in Ireland II:
I think Malakai will cop this one for the team. Cane cited just to shut the feral Irish fans up so Fekitoa will get a decent punishment to keep them quiet.
Cane being cited is a black mark against O'Peyper and the TMO though. Basically it is saying that what they deemed as a penalty only was actually worthy of a RC. It's no as if there is further evidence than what they both saw.
Same thing happened in the Six Nations between England and Ireland. Ref and TMO looked at multiple angles of Brown kicking at the ball with Murray on the floor, decided no action was needed. Citing commissioner disagreed (although it was eventually dropped).
It's not a great look for the refs involved, but it has precedent.
@SimonAdd_2 said in Ireland II:
@Crucial said in Ireland II:
I think Malakai will cop this one for the team. Cane cited just to shut the feral Irish fans up so Fekitoa will get a decent punishment to keep them quiet.
Cane being cited is a black mark against O'Peyper and the TMO though. Basically it is saying that what they deemed as a penalty only was actually worthy of a RC. It's no as if there is further evidence than what they both saw.
Same thing happened in the Six Nations between England and Ireland. Ref and TMO looked at multiple angles of Brown kicking at the ball with Murray on the floor, decided no action was needed. Citing commissioner disagreed (although it was eventually dropped).
It's not a great look for the refs involved, but it has precedent.
That's what I mean. The refs get marked on their performance and only penalising a RC offence is a black mark.
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Cane's citing is a joke.
If Fekitoa misses the next game, and Ben Smith is out with a mangled hand, and I assume Crotty is still out injured, then have we run out of centres?
@Kirwan said in Ireland II:
Cane's citing is a joke.
If Fekitoa misses the next game, and Ben Smith is out with a mangled hand, and I assume Crotty is still out injured, then have we run out of centres?
ALB-Rieko. I'd actually quite like to see that, both hugely exciting players.
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Cane's citing is a joke.
If Fekitoa misses the next game, and Ben Smith is out with a mangled hand, and I assume Crotty is still out injured, then have we run out of centres?
@Kirwan said in Ireland II:
Cane's citing is a joke.
If Fekitoa misses the next game, and Ben Smith is out with a mangled hand, and I assume Crotty is still out injured, then have we run out of centres?
Was that for the head clash? Terrible call if so
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Crotty was always in line for this game and from what I heard he was running freely last week too, so expect highly likely he'll be back this week
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@Kirwan said in Ireland II:
Cane's citing is a joke.
If Fekitoa misses the next game, and Ben Smith is out with a mangled hand, and I assume Crotty is still out injured, then have we run out of centres?
ALB-Rieko. I'd actually quite like to see that, both hugely exciting players.
@No-Quarter said in Ireland II:
@Kirwan said in Ireland II:
Cane's citing is a joke.
If Fekitoa misses the next game, and Ben Smith is out with a mangled hand, and I assume Crotty is still out injured, then have we run out of centres?
ALB-Rieko. I'd actually quite like to see that, both hugely exciting players.
I certainly don't want to see that. Reiko showed in the ITM Cup that he really struggles defensively in the midfield.
He could be last man standing and might be given the jersey but I will be holding my breath big time.
In attack he's excellent but right now I'd love to see him on the wing.
Give the 12 jersey to Jordie Barrett and have ALB at 13
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@Kirwan said in Ireland II:
Cane's citing is a joke.
If Fekitoa misses the next game, and Ben Smith is out with a mangled hand, and I assume Crotty is still out injured, then have we run out of centres?
Was that for the head clash? Terrible call if so
@canefan said in Ireland II:
@Kirwan said in Ireland II:
Cane's citing is a joke.
If Fekitoa misses the next game, and Ben Smith is out with a mangled hand, and I assume Crotty is still out injured, then have we run out of centres?
Was that for the head clash? Terrible call if so
It wasn't actually a head clash. Reverse angle shows it clearly https://twitter.com/threeredkings/status/800151220547678208
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@canefan said in Ireland II:
@Kirwan said in Ireland II:
Cane's citing is a joke.
If Fekitoa misses the next game, and Ben Smith is out with a mangled hand, and I assume Crotty is still out injured, then have we run out of centres?
Was that for the head clash? Terrible call if so
It wasn't actually a head clash. Reverse angle shows it clearly https://twitter.com/threeredkings/status/800151220547678208
@hydro11 one angle clearly shows their heads impacting, so how anyone can say there was no head clash is beyond me.
Similarly one angle of BB's try shows clear grounding, the other that was shown repeatedly on the big screen makes it look doubtful.
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@canefan said in Ireland II:
@Kirwan said in Ireland II:
Cane's citing is a joke.
If Fekitoa misses the next game, and Ben Smith is out with a mangled hand, and I assume Crotty is still out injured, then have we run out of centres?
Was that for the head clash? Terrible call if so
It wasn't actually a head clash. Reverse angle shows it clearly https://twitter.com/threeredkings/status/800151220547678208
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@hydro11 one angle clearly shows their heads impacting, so how anyone can say there was no head clash is beyond me.
Similarly one angle of BB's try shows clear grounding, the other that was shown repeatedly on the big screen makes it look doubtful.
@taniwharugby He was damn unlucky. Cane wasn't even looking at the player, he was turning his head to avoid the impact!! Can't we have an inadvertent clash of bodies without blaming one person? The Paddy player spun around straight into Cane when he didn't expect it. You could argue that he headbutted Sam's shoulder
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@taniwharugby said in Ireland II:
ABs by 12 and under at $3.70 sounds a good option to me....
Did you take this?
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@No-Quarter said in Ireland II:
@Kirwan said in Ireland II:
Cane's citing is a joke.
If Fekitoa misses the next game, and Ben Smith is out with a mangled hand, and I assume Crotty is still out injured, then have we run out of centres?
ALB-Rieko. I'd actually quite like to see that, both hugely exciting players.
I certainly don't want to see that. Reiko showed in the ITM Cup that he really struggles defensively in the midfield.
He could be last man standing and might be given the jersey but I will be holding my breath big time.
In attack he's excellent but right now I'd love to see him on the wing.
Give the 12 jersey to Jordie Barrett and have ALB at 13
@ACT-Crusader Tamanivalu is in the squad too, and he and ALB have played together before. Losing BFA means you lose a back-up midfielder too in the 23. Naholo is NOT a centre as he struggles defensively on the wing.
Agree about Rieko - he's unproven in the midfield but could make the bench vs France with the injuries.
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@hydro11 one angle clearly shows their heads impacting, so how anyone can say there was no head clash is beyond me.
Similarly one angle of BB's try shows clear grounding, the other that was shown repeatedly on the big screen makes it look doubtful.
@taniwharugby said in Ireland II:
@hydro11 one angle clearly shows their heads impacting, so how anyone can say there was no head clash is beyond me.
Similarly one angle of BB's try shows clear grounding, the other that was shown repeatedly on the big screen makes it look doubtful.
Two angles can't show different things. That angle was clear - there was no head clash. As for the Barrett try you couldn't see anything on the other angle because the opposition player was in the way.
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@taniwharugby said in Ireland II:
@hydro11 one angle clearly shows their heads impacting, so how anyone can say there was no head clash is beyond me.
Similarly one angle of BB's try shows clear grounding, the other that was shown repeatedly on the big screen makes it look doubtful.
Two angles can't show different things. That angle was clear - there was no head clash. As for the Barrett try you couldn't see anything on the other angle because the opposition player was in the way.
@hydro11 ah you being deliberately obtuse?
One of the angles I saw clearly showed a head clash, so I obviously saw something you didn't.
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@hydro11 ah you being deliberately obtuse?
One of the angles I saw clearly showed a head clash, so I obviously saw something you didn't.
@taniwharugby said in Ireland II:
@hydro11 ah you being deliberately obtuse?
One of the angles I saw clearly showed a head clash, so I obviously saw something you didn't.
Nah. The angle that shows head clash is an optical illusion.
