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Law trials and changes

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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    Not really a law trial relating to the game, but a trial of officiating protocols and a law application guideline.

    World Rugby approves revised TMO trial for November tier one hosted tests

    World Rugby and its Member Unions have underscored their ongoing commitment to consistent and accurate match officiating by approving a closed trial revising the scope of the Television Match Official (TMO) in the November tests hosted by Tier one unions. 
    
    Confirmation of the trial comes after a full review of the current global trial and the variant used in Super Rugby by a working group of match officials, coaches, players and administrators, reflecting the sport’s commitment to ensuring best-possible match officiating practice. 
    
    The key objective of the review was to review current practice with a view to further reduce TMO reliance and time impact, while ensuring clear, consistent and accurate on-field decision-making.
    
    The following principles were agreed following detailed consideration:
    
    * Try scoring should be an on-field decision with the referee being responsible, but the team of four can all contribute
    * The current list of potential infringements for which a TMO can be referred will be retained, but any referral needs to be prompt, clear and consistent
    * The ‘on the run’ chat between the match officials and TMO for foul play will be removed with the onus on the referee, who should only refer to the TMO issues that are clear and obvious serious acts of foul play, including penalty kick, yellow card or red card as a potential sanction in order to protect player welfare
    * Match officials can review foul play up to when the game restarts, when a penalty is kicked to touch and when foul play footage becomes available
    * Proposal to include live broadcast of the TMO in action.
    
    World Rugby has also issued a law application guideline reinforcing current law for match officials in relation to high tackles and neck contact. (Click here to review) 
    
    As announced last week, an amendment to Law 9 (9.26) has been introduced with immediate effect relating to lowering players to ground safely in open play (Click here to review).
    

    https://laws.worldrugby.org/index.php?domain=9&language=EN

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    @stargazer said in Law trials and changes set for 2017 and beyond:

    The ‘on the run’ chat between the match officials and TMO for foul play will be removed with the onus on the referee, who should only refer to the TMO issues that are clear and obvious serious acts of foul play, including penalty kick, yellow card or red card as a potential sanction in order to protect player welfare

    I like that. Less power in hands of whoever is responsible for the broadcasting / stadium TV feed

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      @stargazer said in Law trials and changes set for 2017 and beyond:

      The ‘on the run’ chat between the match officials and TMO for foul play will be removed with the onus on the referee, who should only refer to the TMO issues that are clear and obvious serious acts of foul play, including penalty kick, yellow card or red card as a potential sanction in order to protect player welfare

      I like that. Less power in hands of whoever is responsible for the broadcasting / stadium TV feed

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      @tordah They can still show replays though, trying to get the ref to go to the TMO (with some help from players pointing at the screen and a loud crowd).

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        #130

        This part makes no sense whatsoever: The "referee, who should only refer to the TMO issues that are clear and obvious..." If it's bloody 'clear and obvious' there is no need for a TMO, because it is clear and fucking obvious! The point of a TMO is to pick up things that are not clear and obvious, like borderline tries. "Clear and obvious", bloody muppets. Just drop the TMO, apart from checking the actual grounding of tries, and the game would be much better. Then have a wider brief for the citing commissioner and sort it out after, show time, so we don't have to sit through boring TMO decisions at the game.

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          This part makes no sense whatsoever: The "referee, who should only refer to the TMO issues that are clear and obvious..." If it's bloody 'clear and obvious' there is no need for a TMO, because it is clear and fucking obvious! The point of a TMO is to pick up things that are not clear and obvious, like borderline tries. "Clear and obvious", bloody muppets. Just drop the TMO, apart from checking the actual grounding of tries, and the game would be much better. Then have a wider brief for the citing commissioner and sort it out after, show time, so we don't have to sit through boring TMO decisions at the game.

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          @machpants said in Law trials and changes set for 2017 and beyond:

          This part makes no sense whatsoever: The "referee, who should only refer to the TMO issues that are clear and obvious..."

          Nothing quite like dragging back a try for a poxy knock-on a ruck or two before. It's part of modern rugby 🙂

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          • nzzpN nzzp

            @machpants said in Law trials and changes set for 2017 and beyond:

            This part makes no sense whatsoever: The "referee, who should only refer to the TMO issues that are clear and obvious..."

            Nothing quite like dragging back a try for a poxy knock-on a ruck or two before. It's part of modern rugby 🙂

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            @nzzp vomit 🤢

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              @nzzp vomit 🤢

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              @machpants said in Law trials and changes set for 2017 and beyond:

              @nzzp vomit 🤢

              you look kind of green. Jealous of the TMO are we? Remember, they are there to help ... 🙂

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                @machpants said in Law trials and changes set for 2017 and beyond:

                @nzzp vomit 🤢

                you look kind of green. Jealous of the TMO are we? Remember, they are there to help ... 🙂

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                @nzzp help me to my early grave with boredom and frustration! 🤪

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                • nzzpN nzzp

                  @machpants said in Law trials and changes set for 2017 and beyond:

                  This part makes no sense whatsoever: The "referee, who should only refer to the TMO issues that are clear and obvious..."

                  Nothing quite like dragging back a try for a poxy knock-on a ruck or two before. It's part of modern rugby 🙂

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                  @nzzp does the 2 phases rule still apply or have the TMO determined that if something happened to breakdown play multiple phases back still counts?

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                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/108784712/rugby-referees-have-to-show-more-cards-demands-world-rugby-boss

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                      Fuck off Gosper you total bell end.

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                        Gosper gives one no confidence that his pronouncements are the result of coordinated analysis of refereeing ...

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                          Gosper gives one no confidence that his pronouncements are the result of coordinated analysis of refereeing ...

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                          @tim said in Law trials and changes set for 2017 and beyond:

                          Gosper gives one no confidence that his pronouncements are the result of coordinated analysis of refereeing ...

                          what the fuck is an Australian pontificating about rugby for anyway? They're fucking hopeless at it...

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                            Based on what Gosper and Pichot have said in recent days rugby is in good hands eh.

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                              Based on what Gosper and Pichot have said in recent days rugby is in good hands eh.

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                              @bovidae 100% just making it up as they go. Policy making by the pint.

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                                Based on what Gosper and Pichot have said in recent days rugby is in good hands eh.

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                                @bovidae said in Law trials and changes set for 2017 and beyond:

                                Based on what Gosper and Pichot have said in recent days rugby is in good hands eh.

                                what was Pichot's idiocy this time?

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                                  @bovidae said in Law trials and changes set for 2017 and beyond:

                                  Based on what Gosper and Pichot have said in recent days rugby is in good hands eh.

                                  what was Pichot's idiocy this time?

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                                  @mariner4life pichots idea was the world league or whatever it is.

                                  Make test rugby great again...or still or not friendlies or something

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    @bovidae said in Law trials and changes set for 2017 and beyond:

                                    Based on what Gosper and Pichot have said in recent days rugby is in good hands eh.

                                    what was Pichot's idiocy this time?

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                                    @mariner4life said in Law trials and changes set for 2017 and beyond:

                                    what was Pichot's idiocy this time?

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/108781087/world-rugby-boss-agustin-pichot-sparks-outrage-by-sharing-xenophobic-squads-list

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      @mariner4life said in Law trials and changes set for 2017 and beyond:

                                      what was Pichot's idiocy this time?

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/108781087/world-rugby-boss-agustin-pichot-sparks-outrage-by-sharing-xenophobic-squads-list

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                                      @bovidae pffft haha what a dickhead

                                      And did Barnes really say that "Shields is the same as the ABs and PIs" crap? If so he is even more of a dickhead than i already thought.

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                                        World Rugby consider penalising players who get concussed

                                        World Rugby is considering taking the extraordinary step that if a tackler is upright in a tackle and gets concussed, they’d also face a suspension because they’ll be deemed at fault.

                                        “What we’re trying to do through a number of processes is to bring the tackle height down to protect more the tackler rather than the ball carrier,” World Rugby’s chief medical officer Martin Raftery told reporters at a briefing in Sydney.

                                        “Yes, we’ve got to protect the ball carrier as well but the focus is on the tackler.

                                        “There’s three phases and one phase is increasing the sanctions.

                                        “By increasing the sanctions for illegal tackles, we’re more likely to protect the ball carrier but we’re hoping by increasing the sanctions, it draws attention to that issue and therefore the coaches start to improve the technique which then brings about lowering the tackle height.

                                        “Second intervention is the high tackle warning system.

                                        “That’s about penalising a tackler for being upright in a tackle who has then clear and obvious contact with the ball carrier.

                                        “And it doesn’t matter whether the ball carrier is injured or the tackler is injured.

                                        “If they’re upright and there’s clear and obvious head contact, he’ll receive an extra penalty, which is an off field penalty.”

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                                        @antipodean so there goes an upright tackle trying to hold the player and ball up to force a maul and turnover

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          @mariner4life said in Law trials and changes set for 2017 and beyond:

                                          what was Pichot's idiocy this time?

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/108781087/world-rugby-boss-agustin-pichot-sparks-outrage-by-sharing-xenophobic-squads-list

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                                          @bovidae oh yea he did that too...although it is wrong cos the Beast isn't SA born is he?

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