Law trials and changes
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I agree with the comments. It's a contact sport. I can think of risk-reducing options that don't involve changing the rules like this (or wearing crazy suits).
Fortunately, the trials are optional and for domestic use only.
What bothers me, also, in rule 5 is that a player can get an orange card for a "red card high tackle offence", but can't return to the field immediately if the TMO concludes that it's a penalty only.
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@Stargazer are the proposed tweaks just for the Covid period? Otherwise #1 and #3 seem to really finish the scrum as a weapon?
@voodoo The way I read the quoted text, the trials are only to reduce the ristk of COVID-19 transmission. It clearly says "temporary law trials" and they're not mandatory because the "presentation and management of COVID-19 across nations" varies.
So, unless WR/participating nations like the new laws and/or want to change rugby into league, we'll hopefully don't see a permanent change to the rules.
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@voodoo The way I read the quoted text, the trials are only to reduce the ristk of COVID-19 transmission. It clearly says "temporary law trials" and they're not mandatory because the "presentation and management of COVID-19 across nations" varies.
So, unless WR/participating nations like the new laws and/or want to change rugby into league, we'll hopefully don't see a permanent change to the rules.
@Stargazer phew
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i like a lot of those tweaks though
@mariner4life said in Law trials and changes:
i like a lot of those tweaks though
I only like the last.
I certainly don't like the idea of a team that can't scrum getting to opt out of the contest and play league.
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@mariner4life said in Law trials and changes:
i like a lot of those tweaks though
I only like the last.
I certainly don't like the idea of a team that can't scrum getting to opt out of the contest and play league.
@antipodean said in Law trials and changes:
@mariner4life said in Law trials and changes:
i like a lot of those tweaks though
I only like the last.
I certainly don't like the idea of a team that can't scrum getting to opt out of the contest and play league.
nah, fuck it. Scrums are meant to be a way to restart play. We've gone too far now, and it's become this blight on the game where it's all gamesmanship up front and trying to con the ref.
I also hate scrum after scrum on a goal line that always ends up with a prop binned. It's shit to watch.
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@antipodean said in Law trials and changes:
@mariner4life said in Law trials and changes:
i like a lot of those tweaks though
I only like the last.
I certainly don't like the idea of a team that can't scrum getting to opt out of the contest and play league.
nah, fuck it. Scrums are meant to be a way to restart play. We've gone too far now, and it's become this blight on the game where it's all gamesmanship up front and trying to con the ref.
I also hate scrum after scrum on a goal line that always ends up with a prop binned. It's shit to watch.
@mariner4life said in Law trials and changes:
@antipodean said in Law trials and changes:
@mariner4life said in Law trials and changes:
i like a lot of those tweaks though
I only like the last.
I certainly don't like the idea of a team that can't scrum getting to opt out of the contest and play league.
nah, fuck it. Scrums are meant to be a way to restart play. We've gone too far now, and it's become this blight on the game where it's all gamesmanship up front and trying to con the ref.
restart play with a contest for possession
I also hate scrum after scrum on a goal line that always ends up with a prop binned. It's shit to watch.
Which is why people shouldn't be binned because their opponent is better. Keep a straight back and if your scrum gets rissoled, bad luck. If you want to fuck around, get binned.
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@mariner4life said in Law trials and changes:
@antipodean said in Law trials and changes:
@mariner4life said in Law trials and changes:
i like a lot of those tweaks though
I only like the last.
I certainly don't like the idea of a team that can't scrum getting to opt out of the contest and play league.
nah, fuck it. Scrums are meant to be a way to restart play. We've gone too far now, and it's become this blight on the game where it's all gamesmanship up front and trying to con the ref.
restart play with a contest for possession
I also hate scrum after scrum on a goal line that always ends up with a prop binned. It's shit to watch.
Which is why people shouldn't be binned because their opponent is better. Keep a straight back and if your scrum gets rissoled, bad luck. If you want to fuck around, get binned.
@antipodean said in Law trials and changes:
@mariner4life said in Law trials and changes:
@antipodean said in Law trials and changes:
@mariner4life said in Law trials and changes:
i like a lot of those tweaks though
I only like the last.
I certainly don't like the idea of a team that can't scrum getting to opt out of the contest and play league.
nah, fuck it. Scrums are meant to be a way to restart play. We've gone too far now, and it's become this blight on the game where it's all gamesmanship up front and trying to con the ref.
restart play with a contest for possession
I also hate scrum after scrum on a goal line that always ends up with a prop binned. It's shit to watch.
Which is why people shouldn't be binned because their opponent is better. Keep a straight back and if your scrum gets rissoled, bad luck. If you want to fuck around, get binned.
i disagree with everything you wrote here.
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WR please phone Dana White ffs
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@antipodean said in Law trials and changes:
@mariner4life said in Law trials and changes:
i like a lot of those tweaks though
I only like the last.
I certainly don't like the idea of a team that can't scrum getting to opt out of the contest and play league.
nah, fuck it. Scrums are meant to be a way to restart play. We've gone too far now, and it's become this blight on the game where it's all gamesmanship up front and trying to con the ref.
I also hate scrum after scrum on a goal line that always ends up with a prop binned. It's shit to watch.
@mariner4life said in Law trials and changes:
@antipodean said in Law trials and changes:
@mariner4life said in Law trials and changes:
i like a lot of those tweaks though
I only like the last.
I certainly don't like the idea of a team that can't scrum getting to opt out of the contest and play league.
nah, fuck it. Scrums are meant to be a way to restart play. We've gone too far now, and it's become this blight on the game where it's all gamesmanship up front and trying to con the ref.
I also hate scrum after scrum on a goal line that always ends up with a prop binned. It's shit to watch.
I'm good with ending multiple resets. But after a single collapse, #1 looks like a free and easy option for the ref who doesn't really know whats going on in there, to simply say "collapse, no fault, free kick".
And I'm baffled by any support of removing the scrum as an attacking option when you win a penalty close in, surely that's an entrenched and quality part of the game?
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Scrums to be outlawed in the UK below elite level:
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@sparky because that's worked well in Australia.
Tight forwards are the heart of the game. WIthout it, you just have league with some extra players on the field. It's a worry
@nzzp relax. It's an article about getting community rugby started in a Covid-safe way. It's not banning scrums. It's doing away with resets for a while. And stand up tackles.
It's a bit silly really. If you can play rugby, you can play with everything, but if one thing is high risk, surely the whole game is high risk.
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@nzzp relax. It's an article about getting community rugby started in a Covid-safe way. It's not banning scrums. It's doing away with resets for a while. And stand up tackles.
It's a bit silly really. If you can play rugby, you can play with everything, but if one thing is high risk, surely the whole game is high risk.
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@mariner4life it's the Fern, pal, I didn't read the article, just the title. FFS.
also didn't realise it was Covid response as it was in law changes/trials. Maybe better suited to Covid response internationally?
@nzzp said in Law trials and changes:
@mariner4life it's the Fern, pal, I didn't read the article, just the title. FFS.
also didn't realise it was Covid response as it was in law changes/trials. Maybe better suited to Covid response internationally?
clssic Fern
don't read the article, but fire up
then say the thread is in the wrong place and suggest a move.
both sides of this place in one post
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@nzzp said in Law trials and changes:
@mariner4life it's the Fern, pal, I didn't read the article, just the title. FFS.
also didn't realise it was Covid response as it was in law changes/trials. Maybe better suited to Covid response internationally?
clssic Fern
don't read the article, but fire up
then say the thread is in the wrong place and suggest a move.
both sides of this place in one post
@mariner4life yep, I'm embedded now. It's a real worry.
Back to the article though, that I felt shamed enough to skim over, it's about the restart in a Covid world. I can't see it -if you are going to have rucks and mauls, why not scrums? Seems a weird kind of thing to try and ban, and can't see it making a consequential difference at all to the risk of getting covid while playing a contact sport.
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It's classic pandering to assuage the concerns of the hysterical and ignorant. It's either safe to have 31 people occupy the space of a field for 80mins or it's not.
