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2017 New Zealand U20s

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    Great try from Losi Filipo. Some of the NZ forwards were sleeping there; they didn't see him coming and reacted really slowly.

    66-23 NZ

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      Great try from Losi Filipo. Some of the NZ forwards were sleeping there; they didn't see him coming and reacted really slowly.

      66-23 NZ

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      @Stargazer said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:

      Great try from Losi Filipo. Some of the NZ forwards were sleeping there; they didn't see him coming and reacted really slowly.

      66-23 NZ

      Yeah the lock thought your fullback or winger had it and stopped.

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        Haha, Ezekiel Lindenmuth picks up the ball and goes for a run and scores a try. Not a bad run for a hooker. Falcon converts: 73-23 NZ.

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          Another try, this time from Papalii. Falcon converts and the full time score is 80-23.

          Again hard to draw conclusions from this game, considering that the opponent was so weak. Samoa's best was definitely Losi Filipo.

          I thought Slade was one of the best for NZ, with the others I mentioned at half time. Falcon seems to be the best 10 in the squad; I think I prefer Leger at 12 where he seemed more effective against Fiji.

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            Another try, this time from Papalii. Falcon converts and the full time score is 80-23.

            Again hard to draw conclusions from this game, considering that the opponent was so weak. Samoa's best was definitely Losi Filipo.

            I thought Slade was one of the best for NZ, with the others I mentioned at half time. Falcon seems to be the best 10 in the squad; I think I prefer Leger at 12 where he seemed more effective against Fiji.

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            @Stargazer
            The NZ Nr.4 was Walker-Leawere, not Slade. Walker-Leawere is a huge man with a moustache while Slade is a very tall, lanky guy.

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              The full game can be viewed on the ARU FB page here: https://www.facebook.com/pg/rugbycomau/videos/?ref=page_internal

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                I saw a bit of Ennor on Grassroots rugby the other week, same club as Kieran Reid who was playing, scored some cracking tries.

                I don't normally watch club rugby so don't have an eye for picking a guy out at what is now 4th tier, but he looked good.

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                  Fark these Aussie U20s are terrible.

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                    I haven't seen either of the games so far but was keen to watch the game against Aust. A pity this isn't played on Sat afternoon so it doesn't clash with Super rugby.

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                      @Stargazer
                      The NZ Nr.4 was Walker-Leawere, not Slade. Walker-Leawere is a huge man with a moustache while Slade is a very tall, lanky guy.

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                      @cgrant My screen was too small to see well what he looked like. Isaia Walker-Leawere wasn't on the original team sheet for today's game and the commentators were referring to him as Sam Slade.

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                        The video of NZ U20 v Samoa U20 is also on YouTube:

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                          The Australia v Fiji game is also livestreamed on YouTube:

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                            Its barely "live" unless you count "multiple fuckups from an incompetent bunch of overprivileged numpties" as live.

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                              @Stargazer
                              The NZ Nr.4 was Walker-Leawere, not Slade. Walker-Leawere is a huge man with a moustache while Slade is a very tall, lanky guy.

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                              @cgrant said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:

                              @Stargazer
                              The NZ Nr.4 was Walker-Leawere, not Slade. Walker-Leawere is a huge man with a moustache while Slade is a very tall, lanky guy.

                              Number 4 is definitely Sam Slade. He has a moustache as well. Commentators mentioned that Slade was a late addition to the team.

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                                @Rapido said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:

                                I saw a bit of Ennor on Grassroots rugby the other week, same club as Kieran Reid who was playing, scored some cracking tries.

                                I don't normally watch club rugby so don't have an eye for picking a guy out at what is now 4th tier, but he looked good.

                                I liked Ennor a lot in school. He's a guy who can cover 11, 12, 13, 14 and 15. Has good skill, rugby IQ and plenty of toe.

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                                  @cgrant said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:

                                  @Stargazer
                                  The NZ Nr.4 was Walker-Leawere, not Slade. Walker-Leawere is a huge man with a moustache while Slade is a very tall, lanky guy.

                                  Number 4 is definitely Sam Slade. He has a moustache as well. Commentators mentioned that Slade was a late addition to the team.

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                                  @Dice

                                  OK, thanks a lot.

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                                    Caleb Clarke looks like he has really good pace.

                                    Quicker than his old man.

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                                      What will be the team against Australia ?

                                      LHP : Harrison Allan as Farrell looks a bit too light.
                                      Hooker : Aumua looks like a man playing among boys. His LO throws were excellent too.
                                      THP : Coxon has played the first two games. I don't know if he is fresh enough for the clash. Can Lindenmuth play on the TH ? He was OK during the few minutes he spent on the field.
                                      Locks : Slade and Caird form a perfect combination. But we haven't seen Walker-Leawere yet.
                                      Blindside flank : Jacobson is the captain but Papali'i looks more physical. Maybe Jacobson at Nr.8 ?
                                      Openside flank : Christie or Choat ? They look very similar.
                                      Nr.8 : Mikaele-Tuu or Jacobson ?
                                      Half-back : Carlos Price impressed during the first half against Samoa. He is a young Aaron Smith : sharp pass, quick decision making. But is he injured ?
                                      1st Five : Falcon.
                                      2nd Five : Leger
                                      Centre : Ennor (Tua not bad either)
                                      Left wing : Caleb Clarke (outstanding prospect, a future All Black for sure)
                                      Right wing : Faingaanuku
                                      Full back : Mackay or Jordan ? Both from Canterbury and both very elusive.

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                                        What will be the team against Australia ?

                                        LHP : Harrison Allan as Farrell looks a bit too light.
                                        Hooker : Aumua looks like a man playing among boys. His LO throws were excellent too.
                                        THP : Coxon has played the first two games. I don't know if he is fresh enough for the clash. Can Lindenmuth play on the TH ? He was OK during the few minutes he spent on the field.
                                        Locks : Slade and Caird form a perfect combination. But we haven't seen Walker-Leawere yet.
                                        Blindside flank : Jacobson is the captain but Papali'i looks more physical. Maybe Jacobson at Nr.8 ?
                                        Openside flank : Christie or Choat ? They look very similar.
                                        Nr.8 : Mikaele-Tuu or Jacobson ?
                                        Half-back : Carlos Price impressed during the first half against Samoa. He is a young Aaron Smith : sharp pass, quick decision making. But is he injured ?
                                        1st Five : Falcon.
                                        2nd Five : Leger
                                        Centre : Ennor (Tua not bad either)
                                        Left wing : Caleb Clarke (outstanding prospect, a future All Black for sure)
                                        Right wing : Faingaanuku
                                        Full back : Mackay or Jordan ? Both from Canterbury and both very elusive.

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                                        @cgrant won't matter. NZ to win by at least 50. Aussies will be lucky to score a try.

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                                          What will be the team against Australia ?

                                          LHP : Harrison Allan as Farrell looks a bit too light.
                                          Hooker : Aumua looks like a man playing among boys. His LO throws were excellent too.
                                          THP : Coxon has played the first two games. I don't know if he is fresh enough for the clash. Can Lindenmuth play on the TH ? He was OK during the few minutes he spent on the field.
                                          Locks : Slade and Caird form a perfect combination. But we haven't seen Walker-Leawere yet.
                                          Blindside flank : Jacobson is the captain but Papali'i looks more physical. Maybe Jacobson at Nr.8 ?
                                          Openside flank : Christie or Choat ? They look very similar.
                                          Nr.8 : Mikaele-Tuu or Jacobson ?
                                          Half-back : Carlos Price impressed during the first half against Samoa. He is a young Aaron Smith : sharp pass, quick decision making. But is he injured ?
                                          1st Five : Falcon.
                                          2nd Five : Leger
                                          Centre : Ennor (Tua not bad either)
                                          Left wing : Caleb Clarke (outstanding prospect, a future All Black for sure)
                                          Right wing : Faingaanuku
                                          Full back : Mackay or Jordan ? Both from Canterbury and both very elusive.

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                                          @cgrant It should be a good game against the Aussies; just a pity it's at the same time as the Tahs v Blues game. One live, one replay it is.

                                          Before the tournament, they said that all players would get enough game time, so I'd expect Lindenmuth to start at LH and Rakete-Stones at TH. Agree that Aumua is the best option at hooker. Don't know how many hookers are in the squad.

                                          Wouldn't mind seeing Slade starting again, but he's already had two starts; not sure what the reason is for Walker-Leawere not playing. Injured? He was named on the bench v Fiji, but I don't remember how much game time he got.

                                          Definitely, Mikaele-Tu'u at 8 if he's fit. I guess it depends on how badly he injured his ankle. He's by far the best in that position and hasn't had much game time yet. Assuming the captain will start, Jacobson will play at 6 (or 8 if Mikaele-Tu'u is not 100%). Or can he play at openside as well? I'd like to see Papali'i start, too, but Christie was good against Fiji.

                                          Difficult choice between the three wings; Nareki and Clarke played well against Samoa, but impressed less against Fiji, in which game Faingaanuku was the best of the three.

                                          Price and Falcon at 9 & 10 is a no-brainer, unless Price is injured. Leger should start at 12, indeed.
                                          Centre? Hmm, difficult. Both weren't bad, but didn't really impress me either.
                                          Fullback, both really good.

                                          I'm wondering who will miss out if Perofeta, Jordie Barrett and/or Peter Umaga-Jensen are picked for the JWC squad. Is Perofeta a specialist 10 or 12? Can he cover both positions; maybe also 13? I kind of expect Jordie to play fullback if he isn't picked for the ABs, because that's where he has played for the Canes and Canterbury (and there's already enough cover for 10 & 12). I'm not sure for how long Peter U-J has been out, but he hasn't played for a long time, I think, and IMO it wouldn't be a good thing if they leave anyone out for him. They did that last year, and he could only play one game (again due to injury; he breaks easily, which is sad for such a young lad). If I'm correct, he can cover fullback and both wings.

                                          Edited to add that Alex Fidow has joined the squad and will play against Australia, if fit. Not sure whether he's a LH, TH or can play both.

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