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2017 New Zealand U20s

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    Coaches
    New Head Coach (replacing Scott Robertson): Hawke's Bay Head Coach Craig Philpott.
    Assistant Coaches: Taranakiโ€™s Willie Rickards (re-appointment) and Otago Head Coach Cory Brown (new appointment).
    Scrum coach: Dave Hewett

    First development camp in preparation of the JWC 2017 (Georgia)
    The first camp will be held from 1-7 December 2016.

    New Zealand U20 will hold further camps in March and April next year, before taking part in the Oceania Tournament on the Gold Coast in April and May. A squad of 28 will be selected to go to the Under 20 World Championship in Georgia from 25 May โ€“ 18 June 2017.
    

    Players group
    The following players have been selected for the first development camp:

    Forwards
    Asafo Aumua (Wellington)
    Ben Power (Wellington)
    John (JP) Sauni (Auckland)
    Chris Cairns (Manawatu)
    Pouri Rakete -Stones (Hawkeโ€™s Bay)
    Alex Fidow (Wellington)
    Jerry Samania (Auckland)
    Ben Aumua Peseta (Wellington)
    Sitiveni Paongo (Wellington)
    Ezekiel Lindenmuth (Auckland)
    Harrison Allan (Canterbury)
    Afioga Ielemia (Auckland)
    Sam Caird (Waikato)
    Jacob Pierce (Auckland)
    Isaia Walker-Leawere (Wellington)
    Shineil Singh (Waikato)
    Will Tucker (Canterbury)
    Samuel Slade (Auckland)
    Luke Jacobson (Waikato)
    Sione Tuipulotu (Counties Manukau)
    Tom Christie (Canterbury)
    Slade McDowall (Otago)
    Adrian Choat (Auckland)
    Du'Plessis Kirifi (Waikato)
    Brayden Iose (Manawatu)
    Josh Brown (Wellington)
    Dylan Lam (North Harbour)
    Marino Mikaele-Tuu (Hawkeโ€™s Bay)
    Isaiah Miller Ta$man)

    Backs
    Caleb Korteweg (Waikato)
    Lewis Gjaltema (North Harbour)
    Kemara Hauiti โ€“Parapara (Wellington)
    Carlos Price (Wellington)
    Tiaan Falcon (Hawkeโ€™s Bay)
    Matt Lansdown (Waikato)
    Orbyn Leger (Counties Manukau)
    Matt McKenzie (Taranaki)
    Braydon Ennor (Canterbury)
    Tamati Tua (Northland)
    Lester Maulolo (Wellington)
    Nikolai Foliaki (Auckland)
    Tima Faingaanuku ( Ta$man
    Josh McKay (Canterbury)
    Caleb Clarke (Auckland)
    To'o Vaega (Auckland)
    Sheldon Tovio (Waikato)
    Tyler Campbell (Waikato)
    Josh Buchan (Otago)
    Will Jordan (Canterbury)

    Not considered due to Super Rugby Commitments were:
    Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes)
    Peter Umaga Jensen (Hurricanes)
    Stephen Perofeta (Blues)
    Eri Enari (Crusaders)

    Players not considered due to injury were:
    Thomas Umaga Jensen (Otago)
    James Little (North Harbour)
    Otumaka Mausia (Auckland)
    Dalton Papalii (Auckland)
    Ryan Coxan (Waikato)

    Ten of these players were involved in last yearโ€™s campaign.
    

    http://www.allblacks.com/News/30143/exciting-squad-named-for-nz-under-20-development-camp

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    No Sevu Reece, is he inelligible?

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    • TimT Tim

      Hmm, no Wiseguy Faiane.

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      @Tim.... and no Losi Filipo, ๐Ÿ˜

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      • HoorooH Hooroo

        Even has his Barnet!
        http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/86736996/name-the-only-thing-chris-cairns-shares-with-chris-cairns

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        @Hooroo

        "The rugby-playing Cairns was nicknamed "The Match Fixer" by his Old Boys-Marist club-mates this year and he hasn't been able to shake it."

        ๐Ÿ˜† :rofl:

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          This team used to be the place our best coaches went to for a taste of international tournaments.

          Philpott?

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            I see the name "Shineil Singh" from Waikato. I don't know of him (don't follow rugby below SR level) but isn't it interesting and extremely welcome to see an Indian player coming through? Is he the first Indian to achieve this status?

            I presume he is Punjabi, who tend to be larger than your average Indian. Back in India they are men of the land, and often soldiers, defending the border against Pakistan (their home state is on the border). In NZ there is a decent sized dairy farming population. More recently, they've often had to learn to defend themselves against criminals in the independent liquor retail business.

            Sounds like he can handle himself.

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              Or he is Fijian.....

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              • T Tregaskis

                I see the name "Shineil Singh" from Waikato. I don't know of him (don't follow rugby below SR level) but isn't it interesting and extremely welcome to see an Indian player coming through? Is he the first Indian to achieve this status?

                I presume he is Punjabi, who tend to be larger than your average Indian. Back in India they are men of the land, and often soldiers, defending the border against Pakistan (their home state is on the border). In NZ there is a decent sized dairy farming population. More recently, they've often had to learn to defend themselves against criminals in the independent liquor retail business.

                Sounds like he can handle himself.

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                @Tregaskis Shneil Singh plays for Morrinsville Sports. He's a lock so likely a Fijian Indian as @Hooroo says.

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                  June 8th Kutaisi stadium, Kutaisi
                  Ireland U20 vs New Zealand U20

                  The baby blacks will be up for that match! ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    @Tregaskis Shneil Singh plays for Morrinsville Sports. He's a lock so likely a Fijian Indian as @Hooroo says.

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                    @Bovidae said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:

                    @Tregaskis Shneil Singh plays for Morrinsville Sports. He's a lock so likely a Fijian Indian as @Hooroo says.

                    Jeez - yiz are poaching Indians now?

                    There's only another 1,336,286,255 of them left now...

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                    • NepiaN Nepia

                      @Bovidae said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:

                      Winning is obviously not a priority with Philpott as the new coach. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

                      He's so shit he couldn't even shoehorn a few more Hawkes Bay players into the squad like other coaches do ....

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                      @Nepia said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:

                      He's so shit he couldn't even shoehorn a few more Hawkes Bay players into the squad like other coaches do ....

                      He left plenty of space for it - with only 10 players from the four South Island unions.

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                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                        @Nepia said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:

                        He's so shit he couldn't even shoehorn a few more Hawkes Bay players into the squad like other coaches do ....

                        He left plenty of space for it - with only 10 players from the four South Island unions.

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                        @Chris-B. said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:

                        @Nepia said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:

                        He's so shit he couldn't even shoehorn a few more Hawkes Bay players into the squad like other coaches do ....

                        He left plenty of space for it - with only 10 players from the four South Island unions.

                        You know his pecking order is Crusaders catchment area and then Hawkes Bay right? ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                          Must be pulling a Justin Marshall - bending over backwards to avoid allegations of bias.

                          A bit rough on Southland, though!

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                            Couple of promising players in the Canterbury group. In particular prop Harrison Allan.

                            Saw him play a game of Club colts this year with the old man, both of us were super impressed.

                            Nice to see another 10 out of Christchurch Boys too (Josh McKay)

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                              @Bovidae said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:

                              @Tregaskis Shneil Singh plays for Morrinsville Sports. He's a lock so likely a Fijian Indian as @Hooroo says.

                              Jeez - yiz are poaching Indians now?

                              There's only another 1,336,286,255 of them left now...

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                              @Pot-Hale Only the good ones! ๐Ÿ˜†

                              As to the squad, team/individual performance at the Taupo national tournament usually plays a large part in selection. The teams that made the finals are most represented.

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                @Tregaskis Shneil Singh plays for Morrinsville Sports. He's a lock so likely a Fijian Indian as @Hooroo says.

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                                @Bovidae said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:

                                @Tregaskis Shneil Singh plays for Morrinsville Sports. He's a lock so likely a Fijian Indian as @Hooroo says.

                                I hadn't factored in "Fijian Indian" which is more plausible. Blew my theory right out of the water....until I found this:

                                https://www.facebook.com/people/Shneil-Singh/100007417185745

                                I'm not sure it's him but he's big and has a few rugby links - the jury is still out.

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                                  Played with an Indian bloke in Putaruru a number of years back (late 80s) who was a lock.

                                  Good player and good bloke. Gun in the lineout.

                                  Pretty sure he wasn't Fijian Indian as I once made some completely inadvertent faux pas about Fiji (meaning Fiji Indian) which he wasn't impressed with.

                                  Why do I feel this really doesn't matter? Can the guy play footy?

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                                    More about Singh, who's definitely not Fijian:

                                    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/86799849/Shneil-Singh-could-be-New-Zealands-first-Indian-All-Black-in-the-making

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                                      Somewhere up north, a hack is having a cross between an ejaculation and an aneurysm having discovered our new source of talent to poach.

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                                      • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                        Somewhere up north, a hack is having a cross between an ejaculation and an aneurysm having discovered our new source of talent to poach.

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                                        @MajorRage said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:

                                        Somewhere up north, a hack is having a cross between an ejaculation and an aneurysm having discovered our new source of talent to poach.

                                        Irish scouts are booking tickets to the subcontinent for project players as we speak.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          More about Singh, who's definitely not Fijian:

                                          http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/86799849/Shneil-Singh-could-be-New-Zealands-first-Indian-All-Black-in-the-making

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                                          @Stargazer I'm not surprised he is from farming stock from the Gordonton/Orini area. There's a large Indian community out there but most are 3rd/4th generation Kiwis. I would have seen him play for St Pauls.

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