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    @nzzp said Cairns was a Grade A, 100% cock. Stats aren't everything though
    bowled us to victory a few times, not least of which on an English tour for our first ever test series win (With Nash I think - at Lords?)

    Damn - my poor old deluded brain had me convinced that we'd smacked the Poms in England in 1986

    I was even certain I was at Trent Bridge to see a MOM performance by RJ Hadlee and a test ton by Bracewell - gravedigger version.

    I even remember Gower being called for throwing when he deliberately chucked the last ball of the match

    Thanks for clearing that up for me - much appreciated

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/series/60536.html

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    @dogmeat Wasn't that Hadlee and the Ilford second XI?

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    Our problem in the past re needing a bowling 6 was we usually had only 1 strike bowler, 1 OK bowler & someone shithouse. And then a non wicket taking spinner. The Windies or Aussie got by with 4 bowlers because their 4 bowlers carried the load.

    Realistically now - especially in NZ or in England, our 3 quicks are all doing their fair share of wicket taking, so we can have a more specialist batsman at 6. Somewhere like India or Sri Lanka we'd need a bowling 6, but at home we don't.

    And because our batting has been shithouse we've leaned towards 8 & 9 who can bat over 8 & 9 who can only bowl.

    Our batting is obv. still shithouse so we probably still need a batsman (Santner) at 8. Its worth noting the feedback from India was they were very impressed with Santner - more with his batting than his bowling tho'

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    @gollum Santner is a bit like Steve Smith in his early career right? Okay bat but mostly picked as a middling spinner?

    Look forward to him averaging 60 by 2019

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    Another reason for us playing 5 batsmen is that we can't always find 6 decent test batsmen, so playing an extra fast(ish) bowler gives us more winning chances.

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    @TeWaio said in Black Caps vs Bangles:

    @gollum Santner is a bit like Steve Smith in his early career right? Okay bat but mostly picked as a middling spinner?

    Look forward to him averaging 60 by 2019

    60? He should be a bit better than that dude.

    Aw you mean his batting.....

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    @gollum said in Black Caps vs Bangles:

    Our problem in the past re needing a bowling 6 was we usually had only 1 strike bowler, 1 OK bowler & someone shithouse. And then a non wicket taking spinner. The Windies or Aussie got by with 4 bowlers because their 4 bowlers carried the load.

    Realistically now - especially in NZ or in England, our 3 quicks are all doing their fair share of wicket taking, so we can have a more specialist batsman at 6. Somewhere like India or Sri Lanka we'd need a bowling 6, but at home we don't.

    And because our batting has been shithouse we've leaned towards 8 & 9 who can bat over 8 & 9 who can only bowl.

    Our batting is obv. still shithouse so we probably still need a batsman (Santner) at 8. Its worth noting the feedback from India was they were very impressed with Santner - more with his batting than his bowling tho'

    Wouldn't quite say our batting is 'shithouse'. There's obviously our outstanding three and four, a very good opener, another opener of whom the jury is still out and a number five who just got his best score....against Bangladesh in the fearsome cauldron.....of his home ground.....and either Santner or CDGH at six.....

    Okay maybe you're half right

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    He's exactly half-right. Tom, Kane and Ross are world class. Jeet, Henry and Colin are not.

    Can't forget BJ though who is a world clsss keeper-batsmen.

    I really want Neesh to come right and make 6 his own. He has a great temperamenet with the bat and I can see him averaging around the 40 mark. Which would mean Santner at 8, and hopefully taking a few more wickets.

    We have the makings of a very solid team. Just need to uncover another batsmen really. Nicholls deserves a decent shot in the short term.

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    @No-Quarter said in Black Caps vs Bangles:

    He's exactly half-right. Tom, Kane and Ross are world class. Jeet, Henry and Colin are not.

    Can't forget BJ though who is a world clsss keeper-batsmen.

    I really want Neesh to come right and make 6 his own. He has a great temperamenet with the bat and I can see him averaging around the 40 mark. Which would mean Santner at 8, and hopefully taking a few more wickets.

    We have the makings of a very solid team. Just need to uncover another batsmen really. Nicholls deserves a decent shot in the short term.

    Santner needs to be just like Mark Craig then with the added bonus of actually being good at what he is picked in the team for.

    Easy.

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    @dogmeat

    OK, second win in England. The first in living memory for me, anyway, but fair cop

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