Six Nations 2017
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@Bones said in Six Nations 2017:
Did I just see Umaga playing for England?
Mike's son that is...
Yep, nice little cameo at the end. Impressive start by England, who only managed to beat Italy in last year's U20 6N.
http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/eng-u20-vs-france-u20/81064
Results from the first round for the U20s
Italy 5 - 27 Wales
Scotland 19 - 20 Ireland
England 59 - 17 France -
Fuck how big were France? If they stuck to smashing in to England and offloading to get behind them before shifting it they would have rolled them. Those French wingers though, hopeless, no awareness of where they are on the field. I guess picked cause they're huge?
France ran out of puff i think, the winning try was piss easy, and their bench offered fuck all
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@Bones said in Six Nations 2017:
@MN5 said in Six Nations 2017:
@Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:
@MN5 said in Six Nations 2017:
Loads of people getting on the Scots bandwagon on Facebook.
Fuck off fluffybunnies. It's people like me who should be enjoying this victory. If the Black Caps get up as well there's gonna be one extremely pissed kiwi Scotsman tomorrow.
Well, there will be regardless but a BC win would be lovely
Gee that Hogg is a goodun. Lions fullback for sure.
He should've been the Lions full back last time with Halfpenny on the wing. He's a class player.
First time I saw him I wrote him off as a slightly dorky looking guy with too many freckles ( takes one to know one ) but happily I couldn't have been more wrong and he's become the player I hoped Chris Paterson would.
Dunbar is a big rooster but on the whole they seem to have jettisoned the big backlines they've had until recently?
Out of the team you'd have to say the Grays, Laidlaw ( to me he has midweek captain written all over him )and Maitland are others with a real chance to tour. Seymour too.
Did you watch the game?
At that hour? You fucken kidding? 3 minutes of YouTube footage is more than enough for me to make judgements and assumptions.
@MN5 said in Six Nations 2017:
@Bones said in Six Nations 2017:
@MN5 said in Six Nations 2017:
@Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:
@MN5 said in Six Nations 2017:
Loads of people getting on the Scots bandwagon on Facebook.
Fuck off fluffybunnies. It's people like me who should be enjoying this victory. If the Black Caps get up as well there's gonna be one extremely pissed kiwi Scotsman tomorrow.
Well, there will be regardless but a BC win would be lovely
Gee that Hogg is a goodun. Lions fullback for sure.
He should've been the Lions full back last time with Halfpenny on the wing. He's a class player.
First time I saw him I wrote him off as a slightly dorky looking guy with too many freckles ( takes one to know one ) but happily I couldn't have been more wrong and he's become the player I hoped Chris Paterson would.
Dunbar is a big rooster but on the whole they seem to have jettisoned the big backlines they've had until recently?
Out of the team you'd have to say the Grays, Laidlaw ( to me he has midweek captain written all over him )and Maitland are others with a real chance to tour. Seymour too.
Did you watch the game?
At that hour? You fucken kidding? 3 minutes of YouTube footage is more than enough for me to make judgements and assumptions.
Maitland was fucking ordinary. Russell was excellent, Strauss was bloody good too. Johnny Gray was outstanding, the number of tackles! Richie not as good.
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@MN5 said in Six Nations 2017:
@Bones said in Six Nations 2017:
@MN5 said in Six Nations 2017:
@Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:
@MN5 said in Six Nations 2017:
Loads of people getting on the Scots bandwagon on Facebook.
Fuck off fluffybunnies. It's people like me who should be enjoying this victory. If the Black Caps get up as well there's gonna be one extremely pissed kiwi Scotsman tomorrow.
Well, there will be regardless but a BC win would be lovely
Gee that Hogg is a goodun. Lions fullback for sure.
He should've been the Lions full back last time with Halfpenny on the wing. He's a class player.
First time I saw him I wrote him off as a slightly dorky looking guy with too many freckles ( takes one to know one ) but happily I couldn't have been more wrong and he's become the player I hoped Chris Paterson would.
Dunbar is a big rooster but on the whole they seem to have jettisoned the big backlines they've had until recently?
Out of the team you'd have to say the Grays, Laidlaw ( to me he has midweek captain written all over him )and Maitland are others with a real chance to tour. Seymour too.
Did you watch the game?
At that hour? You fucken kidding? 3 minutes of YouTube footage is more than enough for me to make judgements and assumptions.
Maitland was fucking ordinary. Russell was excellent, Strauss was bloody good too. Johnny Gray was outstanding, the number of tackles! Richie not as good.
@Bones said in Six Nations 2017:
@MN5 said in Six Nations 2017:
@Bones said in Six Nations 2017:
@MN5 said in Six Nations 2017:
@Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:
@MN5 said in Six Nations 2017:
Loads of people getting on the Scots bandwagon on Facebook.
Fuck off fluffybunnies. It's people like me who should be enjoying this victory. If the Black Caps get up as well there's gonna be one extremely pissed kiwi Scotsman tomorrow.
Well, there will be regardless but a BC win would be lovely
Gee that Hogg is a goodun. Lions fullback for sure.
He should've been the Lions full back last time with Halfpenny on the wing. He's a class player.
First time I saw him I wrote him off as a slightly dorky looking guy with too many freckles ( takes one to know one ) but happily I couldn't have been more wrong and he's become the player I hoped Chris Paterson would.
Dunbar is a big rooster but on the whole they seem to have jettisoned the big backlines they've had until recently?
Out of the team you'd have to say the Grays, Laidlaw ( to me he has midweek captain written all over him )and Maitland are others with a real chance to tour. Seymour too.
Did you watch the game?
At that hour? You fucken kidding? 3 minutes of YouTube footage is more than enough for me to make judgements and assumptions.
Maitland was fucking ordinary. Russell was excellent, Strauss was bloody good too. Johnny Gray was outstanding, the number of tackles! Richie not as good.
Is Visser injured?
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@Bones said in Six Nations 2017:
@MN5 said in Six Nations 2017:
@Bones said in Six Nations 2017:
@MN5 said in Six Nations 2017:
@Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:
@MN5 said in Six Nations 2017:
Loads of people getting on the Scots bandwagon on Facebook.
Fuck off fluffybunnies. It's people like me who should be enjoying this victory. If the Black Caps get up as well there's gonna be one extremely pissed kiwi Scotsman tomorrow.
Well, there will be regardless but a BC win would be lovely
Gee that Hogg is a goodun. Lions fullback for sure.
He should've been the Lions full back last time with Halfpenny on the wing. He's a class player.
First time I saw him I wrote him off as a slightly dorky looking guy with too many freckles ( takes one to know one ) but happily I couldn't have been more wrong and he's become the player I hoped Chris Paterson would.
Dunbar is a big rooster but on the whole they seem to have jettisoned the big backlines they've had until recently?
Out of the team you'd have to say the Grays, Laidlaw ( to me he has midweek captain written all over him )and Maitland are others with a real chance to tour. Seymour too.
Did you watch the game?
At that hour? You fucken kidding? 3 minutes of YouTube footage is more than enough for me to make judgements and assumptions.
Maitland was fucking ordinary. Russell was excellent, Strauss was bloody good too. Johnny Gray was outstanding, the number of tackles! Richie not as good.
Is Visser injured?
@MN5 said in Six Nations 2017:
@Bones said in Six Nations 2017:
@MN5 said in Six Nations 2017:
@Bones said in Six Nations 2017:
@MN5 said in Six Nations 2017:
@Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:
@MN5 said in Six Nations 2017:
Loads of people getting on the Scots bandwagon on Facebook.
Fuck off fluffybunnies. It's people like me who should be enjoying this victory. If the Black Caps get up as well there's gonna be one extremely pissed kiwi Scotsman tomorrow.
Well, there will be regardless but a BC win would be lovely
Gee that Hogg is a goodun. Lions fullback for sure.
He should've been the Lions full back last time with Halfpenny on the wing. He's a class player.
First time I saw him I wrote him off as a slightly dorky looking guy with too many freckles ( takes one to know one ) but happily I couldn't have been more wrong and he's become the player I hoped Chris Paterson would.
Dunbar is a big rooster but on the whole they seem to have jettisoned the big backlines they've had until recently?
Out of the team you'd have to say the Grays, Laidlaw ( to me he has midweek captain written all over him )and Maitland are others with a real chance to tour. Seymour too.
Did you watch the game?
At that hour? You fucken kidding? 3 minutes of YouTube footage is more than enough for me to make judgements and assumptions.
Maitland was fucking ordinary. Russell was excellent, Strauss was bloody good too. Johnny Gray was outstanding, the number of tackles! Richie not as good.
Is Visser injured?
Not telling.
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Italy are in flying form.
Great try from a beautifully worked mini maul. Parisse in stupendous form.
Italy 7-0 Wales after 32 mins.
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Kruis confirmed as out of rugby for the next 8-10 weeks.
Will be interesting to see what Eddie does with the starting mix now. Haskell was way better at 6 than Itoje and Itoje was better when he shifted to lock.
I have to agree with Eddie's comment that he is bewildered as to why England have such a poor record in Cardiff and why people worry so much about them playing there.
This championship has been set up to be England's now. Slim chance though that other teams can deny them BPs in wins (like France did), pick up losing and winning BPs themselves then win their one off game. Ireland would now be relying on edging them on BPs (with a win in Dublin). Would love to see Scotland fire up and take them out though. The ability is there.
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Argh, France are so frustrating to watch. Create loads of chances, but blow just as many. Ran out of steam, and then headless chicken stuff like missing penalty touch with time up on the clock.
@Billy-Tell said in Six Nations 2017:
Argh, France are so frustrating to watch. Create loads of chances, but blow just as many. Ran out of steam, and then headless chicken stuff like missing penalty touch with time up on the clock.
Imagine how good they would be of they could teach their forwards to take the ball moving. They seem devoid of urgency and just use muscle instead of brains. I'm disappointed that not much has changed under Noyes.
As for that touch finder that's his career in a nutshell in my view.
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@Billy-Tell said in Six Nations 2017:
Argh, France are so frustrating to watch. Create loads of chances, but blow just as many. Ran out of steam, and then headless chicken stuff like missing penalty touch with time up on the clock.
Imagine how good they would be of they could teach their forwards to take the ball moving. They seem devoid of urgency and just use muscle instead of brains. I'm disappointed that not much has changed under Noyes.
As for that touch finder that's his career in a nutshell in my view.
@mooshld said in Six Nations 2017:
@Billy-Tell said in Six Nations 2017:
Argh, France are so frustrating to watch. Create loads of chances, but blow just as many. Ran out of steam, and then headless chicken stuff like missing penalty touch with time up on the clock.
Imagine how good they would be of they could teach their forwards to take the ball moving. They seem devoid of urgency and just use muscle instead of brains. I'm disappointed that not much has changed under Noyes.
As for that touch finder that's his career in a nutshell in my view.
Add Michalak's name to that and probably a few others too.
I actually thought they had some good movement from their forwards in patches and of course Picamoles was all class. I reckon he's currently the No1 No8 around.
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@mooshld said in Six Nations 2017:
@Billy-Tell said in Six Nations 2017:
Argh, France are so frustrating to watch. Create loads of chances, but blow just as many. Ran out of steam, and then headless chicken stuff like missing penalty touch with time up on the clock.
Imagine how good they would be of they could teach their forwards to take the ball moving. They seem devoid of urgency and just use muscle instead of brains. I'm disappointed that not much has changed under Noyes.
As for that touch finder that's his career in a nutshell in my view.
Add Michalak's name to that and probably a few others too.
I actually thought they had some good movement from their forwards in patches and of course Picamoles was all class. I reckon he's currently the No1 No8 around.
@Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:
@mooshld said in Six Nations 2017:
@Billy-Tell said in Six Nations 2017:
Argh, France are so frustrating to watch. Create loads of chances, but blow just as many. Ran out of steam, and then headless chicken stuff like missing penalty touch with time up on the clock.
Imagine how good they would be of they could teach their forwards to take the ball moving. They seem devoid of urgency and just use muscle instead of brains. I'm disappointed that not much has changed under Noyes.
As for that touch finder that's his career in a nutshell in my view.
Add Michalak's name to that and probably a few others too.
I actually thought they had some good movement from their forwards in patches and of course Picamoles was all class. I reckon he's currently the No1 No8 around.
It's all from a stand still though they are never running on to the ball at pace. I'm not surprised as its the same on the top 14.
King Louis is the exception.
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@mooshld said in Six Nations 2017:
@Billy-Tell said in Six Nations 2017:
Argh, France are so frustrating to watch. Create loads of chances, but blow just as many. Ran out of steam, and then headless chicken stuff like missing penalty touch with time up on the clock.
Imagine how good they would be of they could teach their forwards to take the ball moving. They seem devoid of urgency and just use muscle instead of brains. I'm disappointed that not much has changed under Noyes.
As for that touch finder that's his career in a nutshell in my view.
Add Michalak's name to that and probably a few others too.
I actually thought they had some good movement from their forwards in patches and of course Picamoles was all class. I reckon he's currently the No1 No8 around.
@Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:
@mooshld said in Six Nations 2017:
@Billy-Tell said in Six Nations 2017:
Argh, France are so frustrating to watch. Create loads of chances, but blow just as many. Ran out of steam, and then headless chicken stuff like missing penalty touch with time up on the clock.
Imagine how good they would be of they could teach their forwards to take the ball moving. They seem devoid of urgency and just use muscle instead of brains. I'm disappointed that not much has changed under Noyes.
As for that touch finder that's his career in a nutshell in my view.
Add Michalak's name to that and probably a few others too.
We had a certain player that missed a touch finder and provided an opportunity for the opposition to win the game once. I can't remember his name now but I seem to recall him redeeming himself later on in his career.
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One thing I was glad to see (from a kiwi perspective) was that despite the NH teams looking to play more instinctively and their coaches from the SH trying to instill that, it appears you can't make something instinctive at only one level.
Those little half second pauses to think about risk/ reward when opportunities are offered really kill moves off and I saw plenty of them.
I'm not saying these teams aren't good in their own style of playing, just that unless you grow up and play through with the instinct to chance an attack before covering in defence you aren't going to create that speed of thought. -
One thing I was glad to see (from a kiwi perspective) was that despite the NH teams looking to play more instinctively and their coaches from the SH trying to instill that, it appears you can't make something instinctive at only one level.
Those little half second pauses to think about risk/ reward when opportunities are offered really kill moves off and I saw plenty of them.
I'm not saying these teams aren't good in their own style of playing, just that unless you grow up and play through with the instinct to chance an attack before covering in defence you aren't going to create that speed of thought.@Crucial It's one of the huge differences I noticed when I moved over. Mostly with forwards, however an offload in the tackle to a player was often met by a knock on due to it being the last thing they expect, plus them not advancing into positions/gaps to take advantage of an offload. Try and run a shoulder to take an offload from a forward? 90℅ of the time = no chance.
