Black Caps v South Africa
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Kudos to this team for fighting themselves back into winning positions during the ebbs and lows, even if they don't win all the time.
The scars of bygone days when the friggin games were all over after an hour or two (or worse you stayed with it to watch our opponents flogging a dead horse) still run deep
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Havent had time to read whole thread and had to follow much of the 2nd innings from A&E yesterday arvo so wasnt fully following it but who come CdG only bowled the 4 overs? Seemed to be going well but not sure why he wasnt bowled more.
I felt out batting was 30 runs or so short so expected SA to get there without too much trouble but we did well to keep them under control and then let the pressure mount once we got a few wickets.
Pretty awesome to break the SA run of wins
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Havent had time to read whole thread and had to follow much of the 2nd innings from A&E yesterday arvo so wasnt fully following it but who come CdG only bowled the 4 overs? Seemed to be going well but not sure why he wasnt bowled more.
I felt out batting was 30 runs or so short so expected SA to get there without too much trouble but we did well to keep them under control and then let the pressure mount once we got a few wickets.
Pretty awesome to break the SA run of wins
@JK The 10 overs spread between CdGh, Neesham and Williamson were all completed by the 20th or 21st over. Much different pattern than we've used in recent times.
I guess they opted to rush through the 5th bowler and then, needing wickets to win, stuck with the frontline guys they thought most likely to take those wickets.
I did wonder at the time about the wisdom of letting Ish bowl his final over after he'd been caned in his 9th - probably would have recalled Colin for that one - but Ish delivered.
Another good thing about that win is that I'm sure we had the more difficult batting conditions.
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@Hooroo Yeah - I thought Santner showed why he's been preferred to Sodhi for the most part. Just able to exert more control at crucial times. You can't really rely on Ish to dry up an end if you need it.
A bit of a lack of composure over those closing overs - a couple of misfields by Kane and Brownlie, CdGh a bit slow with a narrow runout opportunity, some poor bowling by all of Sodhi, Boult and Southee opening the door for Pretorius and Phehlekwayo.
The best thing was it put Kepler Wessels back in his box. He was starting to annoy me with his cocky, "you boys have blown this". What have we got an Australian commentator for this series for anyway?
(Pretty sure it's Kepler isn't it?).
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@Chris-B. Kepler is such a smug little... But he's actually a South African who played for the Aussies during the apartheid era and then represented SA from 92 onward.
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In other cricket news, the NZ ladies cleaned up the Aussie sheilas in the third T20 to take their series 2-1.
I heard on the radio whilst out driving that we'd only made 113 in our first innings and was thinking FFS girls.
But, a little bit later when the Aussies were 9/5 it looked like we'd done quite well. I had great hopes we might roll them for less than 26!
In the end, Healy's niece, who also happens to be Mitchell Starc's wife, combined with another woman to get them to a vaguely credible total in the 60s.
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In other cricket news, the NZ ladies cleaned up the Aussie sheilas in the third T20 to take their series 2-1.
I heard on the radio whilst out driving that we'd only made 113 in our first innings and was thinking FFS girls.
But, a little bit later when the Aussies were 9/5 it looked like we'd done quite well. I had great hopes we might roll them for less than 26!
In the end, Healy's niece, who also happens to be Mitchell Starc's wife, combined with another woman to get them to a vaguely credible total in the 60s.
@Chris-B. said in Black Caps v South Africa:
In the end, Healy's niece, who also happens to be Mitchell Starc's wife, combined with another woman to get them to a vaguely credible total in the 60s.
Healy as a Father In Law! Good grief!
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@Chris-B. said in Black Caps v South Africa:
In the end, Healy's niece, who also happens to be Mitchell Starc's wife, combined with another woman to get them to a vaguely credible total in the 60s.
Healy as a Father In Law! Good grief!
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@Chris-B. said in Black Caps v South Africa:
In the end, Healy's niece, who also happens to be Mitchell Starc's wife, combined with another woman to get them to a vaguely credible total in the 60s.
Healy as a Father In Law! Good grief!
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@Siam said in Black Caps v South Africa:
Pedant alert: uncle in law
In Tassie and Queensland, that's the same as Father in law
@SynicBast said in Black Caps v South Africa:
@Siam said in Black Caps v South Africa:
Pedant alert: uncle in law
In Tassie and Queensland, that's the same as Father in law
You'd need a shitload of piss to deal with Heals's cricketing anecdotes over Xmas dinner that's for sure.
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@SynicBast said in Black Caps v South Africa:
@Siam said in Black Caps v South Africa:
Pedant alert: uncle in law
In Tassie and Queensland, that's the same as Father in law
You'd need a shitload of piss to deal with Heals's cricketing anecdotes over Xmas dinner that's for sure.
@MN5 i got one of my mate of my mate in Hobart coming downstairs of his flat in the 90s whom he shared with some slapper and seing some bloke at the kitchen table thinking "fuck i know that bloke....and the fluffybunny has my dresing gown on!"
May be true or not depending on libel laws...
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Is Ross Taylor our greatest ODI batsman yet? Or does he need the runs scored record as well?
@Godder Statistically, it would be hard to argue against him.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=2;id=5;type=team
Changes in bat technology could still make a case for Astle.
Guppy's record is outstanding - especially opening - and that high score and strike rate are superior to Rossco, but those 17 centuries still edge it for me, statistically. To properly compare them you'd probably also need to look at some of the contexts in which their big innings (and failures) have been played.
Kane is coming along nicely, as well - but, needs some more hundreds.
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Is Ross Taylor our greatest ODI batsman yet? Or does he need the runs scored record as well?
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@Godder Statistically, it would be hard to argue against him.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=2;id=5;type=team
Changes in bat technology could still make a case for Astle.
Guppy's record is outstanding - especially opening - and that high score and strike rate are superior to Rossco, but those 17 centuries still edge it for me, statistically. To properly compare them you'd probably also need to look at some of the contexts in which their big innings (and failures) have been played.
Kane is coming along nicely, as well - but, needs some more hundreds.
@Chris-B. said in Black Caps v South Africa:
@Godder Statistically, it would be hard to argue against him.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=2;id=5;type=team
Changes in bat technology could still make a case for Astle.
Guppy's record is outstanding - especially opening - and that high score and strike rate are superior to Rossco, but those 17 centuries still edge it for me, statistically. To properly compare them you'd probably also need to look at some of the contexts in which their big innings (and failures) have been played.
Kane is coming along nicely, as well - but, needs some more hundreds.
Gotta be Rossco but KW will beat him overall.
Shit Fleming had a very good record for a specialist batsman with a complete inability to score hundreds. This is true in both formats.
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@Chris-B. said in Black Caps v South Africa:
@Godder Statistically, it would be hard to argue against him.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=2;id=5;type=team
Changes in bat technology could still make a case for Astle.
Guppy's record is outstanding - especially opening - and that high score and strike rate are superior to Rossco, but those 17 centuries still edge it for me, statistically. To properly compare them you'd probably also need to look at some of the contexts in which their big innings (and failures) have been played.
Kane is coming along nicely, as well - but, needs some more hundreds.
Gotta be Rossco but KW will beat him overall.
Shit Fleming had a very good record for a specialist batsman with a complete inability to score hundreds. This is true in both formats.
@MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa:
@Chris-B. said in Black Caps v South Africa:
@Godder Statistically, it would be hard to argue against him.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=2;id=5;type=team
Changes in bat technology could still make a case for Astle.
Guppy's record is outstanding - especially opening - and that high score and strike rate are superior to Rossco, but those 17 centuries still edge it for me, statistically. To properly compare them you'd probably also need to look at some of the contexts in which their big innings (and failures) have been played.
Kane is coming along nicely, as well - but, needs some more hundreds.
Gotta be Rossco but KW will beat him overall.
Shit Fleming had a very good record for a specialist batsman with a complete inability to score hundreds. This is true in both formats.
Loved Fleming (still my TSF signature, or at least was on the old forum software).
Wish he got our first triple when he declared himself on 274* that time in Colombo
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@Godder Statistically, it would be hard to argue against him.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=2;id=5;type=team
Changes in bat technology could still make a case for Astle.
Guppy's record is outstanding - especially opening - and that high score and strike rate are superior to Rossco, but those 17 centuries still edge it for me, statistically. To properly compare them you'd probably also need to look at some of the contexts in which their big innings (and failures) have been played.
Kane is coming along nicely, as well - but, needs some more hundreds.
@Chris-B. said in Black Caps v South Africa:
@Godder Statistically, it would be hard to argue against him.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=2;id=5;type=team
Changes in bat technology could still make a case for Astle.
What about a case for Turner.
- Highest average
- Larger fields
- No powerplays
- No fielding restrictions for a quarter of his ODIs
- and a little bat
