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Black Caps v South Africa

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  • nzzpN nzzp

    @Chris-B. said in Black Caps v South Africa:

    In the end, Healy's niece, who also happens to be Mitchell Starc's wife, combined with another woman to get them to a vaguely credible total in the 60s.

    Healy as a Father In Law! Good grief!

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    @nzzp

    Pedant alert: uncle in law 🙂

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    • SiamS Siam

      @nzzp

      Pedant alert: uncle in law 🙂

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      @Siam said in Black Caps v South Africa:

      @nzzp

      Pedant alert: uncle in law 🙂

      In Tassie and Queensland, that's the same as Father in law

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      • SiamS Siam

        @nzzp

        Pedant alert: uncle in law 🙂

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        @Siam said in Black Caps v South Africa:

        @nzzp

        Pedant alert: uncle in law 🙂

        You think confusing a daughter and a niece is being a Pedant? could happen to anyone!

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        • SynicBastS SynicBast

          @Siam said in Black Caps v South Africa:

          @nzzp

          Pedant alert: uncle in law 🙂

          In Tassie and Queensland, that's the same as Father in law

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          @SynicBast said in Black Caps v South Africa:

          @Siam said in Black Caps v South Africa:

          @nzzp

          Pedant alert: uncle in law 🙂

          In Tassie and Queensland, that's the same as Father in law

          You'd need a shitload of piss to deal with Heals's cricketing anecdotes over Xmas dinner that's for sure.

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          • MN5M MN5

            @SynicBast said in Black Caps v South Africa:

            @Siam said in Black Caps v South Africa:

            @nzzp

            Pedant alert: uncle in law 🙂

            In Tassie and Queensland, that's the same as Father in law

            You'd need a shitload of piss to deal with Heals's cricketing anecdotes over Xmas dinner that's for sure.

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            @MN5 i got one of my mate of my mate in Hobart coming downstairs of his flat in the 90s whom he shared with some slapper and seing some bloke at the kitchen table thinking "fuck i know that bloke....and the fluffybunny has my dresing gown on!"

            May be true or not depending on libel laws...

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              Is Ross Taylor our greatest ODI batsman yet? Or does he need the runs scored record as well?

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                I don't think u need the most runs to be the best.. Fleming has loads cos he played so many games.. maybe t20 is cutting down the number of odis played..

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                • GodderG Godder

                  Is Ross Taylor our greatest ODI batsman yet? Or does he need the runs scored record as well?

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                  @Godder Statistically, it would be hard to argue against him.

                  http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=2;id=5;type=team

                  Changes in bat technology could still make a case for Astle.

                  Guppy's record is outstanding - especially opening - and that high score and strike rate are superior to Rossco, but those 17 centuries still edge it for me, statistically. To properly compare them you'd probably also need to look at some of the contexts in which their big innings (and failures) have been played.

                  Kane is coming along nicely, as well - but, needs some more hundreds.

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                  • GodderG Godder

                    Is Ross Taylor our greatest ODI batsman yet? Or does he need the runs scored record as well?

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                    @Godder yep. it's a great record, and rich company indeed in terms of the 'centuries against all countries' stat.

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                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                      @Godder Statistically, it would be hard to argue against him.

                      http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=2;id=5;type=team

                      Changes in bat technology could still make a case for Astle.

                      Guppy's record is outstanding - especially opening - and that high score and strike rate are superior to Rossco, but those 17 centuries still edge it for me, statistically. To properly compare them you'd probably also need to look at some of the contexts in which their big innings (and failures) have been played.

                      Kane is coming along nicely, as well - but, needs some more hundreds.

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                      @Chris-B. said in Black Caps v South Africa:

                      @Godder Statistically, it would be hard to argue against him.

                      http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=2;id=5;type=team

                      Changes in bat technology could still make a case for Astle.

                      Guppy's record is outstanding - especially opening - and that high score and strike rate are superior to Rossco, but those 17 centuries still edge it for me, statistically. To properly compare them you'd probably also need to look at some of the contexts in which their big innings (and failures) have been played.

                      Kane is coming along nicely, as well - but, needs some more hundreds.

                      Gotta be Rossco but KW will beat him overall.

                      Shit Fleming had a very good record for a specialist batsman with a complete inability to score hundreds. This is true in both formats.

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                        @Chris-B. said in Black Caps v South Africa:

                        @Godder Statistically, it would be hard to argue against him.

                        http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=2;id=5;type=team

                        Changes in bat technology could still make a case for Astle.

                        Guppy's record is outstanding - especially opening - and that high score and strike rate are superior to Rossco, but those 17 centuries still edge it for me, statistically. To properly compare them you'd probably also need to look at some of the contexts in which their big innings (and failures) have been played.

                        Kane is coming along nicely, as well - but, needs some more hundreds.

                        Gotta be Rossco but KW will beat him overall.

                        Shit Fleming had a very good record for a specialist batsman with a complete inability to score hundreds. This is true in both formats.

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                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa:

                        @Chris-B. said in Black Caps v South Africa:

                        @Godder Statistically, it would be hard to argue against him.

                        http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=2;id=5;type=team

                        Changes in bat technology could still make a case for Astle.

                        Guppy's record is outstanding - especially opening - and that high score and strike rate are superior to Rossco, but those 17 centuries still edge it for me, statistically. To properly compare them you'd probably also need to look at some of the contexts in which their big innings (and failures) have been played.

                        Kane is coming along nicely, as well - but, needs some more hundreds.

                        Gotta be Rossco but KW will beat him overall.

                        Shit Fleming had a very good record for a specialist batsman with a complete inability to score hundreds. This is true in both formats.

                        Loved Fleming (still my TSF signature, or at least was on the old forum software).

                        Wish he got our first triple when he declared himself on 274* that time in Colombo

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @Godder Statistically, it would be hard to argue against him.

                          http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=2;id=5;type=team

                          Changes in bat technology could still make a case for Astle.

                          Guppy's record is outstanding - especially opening - and that high score and strike rate are superior to Rossco, but those 17 centuries still edge it for me, statistically. To properly compare them you'd probably also need to look at some of the contexts in which their big innings (and failures) have been played.

                          Kane is coming along nicely, as well - but, needs some more hundreds.

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                          @Chris-B. said in Black Caps v South Africa:

                          @Godder Statistically, it would be hard to argue against him.

                          http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=2;id=5;type=team

                          Changes in bat technology could still make a case for Astle.

                          What about a case for Turner.

                          • Highest average
                          • Larger fields
                          • No powerplays
                          • No fielding restrictions for a quarter of his ODIs
                          • and a little bat
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                            @MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa:

                            @Chris-B. said in Black Caps v South Africa:

                            @Godder Statistically, it would be hard to argue against him.

                            http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=2;id=5;type=team

                            Changes in bat technology could still make a case for Astle.

                            Guppy's record is outstanding - especially opening - and that high score and strike rate are superior to Rossco, but those 17 centuries still edge it for me, statistically. To properly compare them you'd probably also need to look at some of the contexts in which their big innings (and failures) have been played.

                            Kane is coming along nicely, as well - but, needs some more hundreds.

                            Gotta be Rossco but KW will beat him overall.

                            Shit Fleming had a very good record for a specialist batsman with a complete inability to score hundreds. This is true in both formats.

                            Loved Fleming (still my TSF signature, or at least was on the old forum software).

                            Wish he got our first triple when he declared himself on 274* that time in Colombo

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                            @TeWaio said in Black Caps v South Africa:

                            @MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa:

                            @Chris-B. said in Black Caps v South Africa:

                            @Godder Statistically, it would be hard to argue against him.

                            http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=2;id=5;type=team

                            Changes in bat technology could still make a case for Astle.

                            Guppy's record is outstanding - especially opening - and that high score and strike rate are superior to Rossco, but those 17 centuries still edge it for me, statistically. To properly compare them you'd probably also need to look at some of the contexts in which their big innings (and failures) have been played.

                            Kane is coming along nicely, as well - but, needs some more hundreds.

                            Gotta be Rossco but KW will beat him overall.

                            Shit Fleming had a very good record for a specialist batsman with a complete inability to score hundreds. This is true in both formats.

                            Loved Fleming (still my TSF signature, or at least was on the old forum software).

                            Wish he got our first triple when he declared himself on 274* that time in Colombo

                            He made it look easy when he was in form and I was thrilled he got the average over 40 in the end which I reckon will hold him in greater esteem when looking back then if he finished on 39.99999 or whatever.

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                              @Chris-B. said in Black Caps v South Africa:

                              @Godder Statistically, it would be hard to argue against him.

                              http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=2;id=5;type=team

                              Changes in bat technology could still make a case for Astle.

                              What about a case for Turner.

                              • Highest average
                              • Larger fields
                              • No powerplays
                              • No fielding restrictions for a quarter of his ODIs
                              • and a little bat
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                              @Crucial Don't think he played enough to be rated "greatest".

                              I think some of his earlier games were 60 over affairs and I'm pretty sure his big hundred was against someone like "East Africa".

                              He could play though and was more or less credited with inventing the chip shot over the infield.

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                                How bout the much vaunted BMac only averaging 30? That surprised me.

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                                  How bout the much vaunted BMac only averaging 30? That surprised me.

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                                  @MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa:

                                  How bout the much vaunted BMac only averaging 30? That surprised me.

                                  McCullum was derided by fans for most of his career. He got out in stupid ways and most people thought he was better than he showed. It was only that crazy year where he got 4 double tons and test and then before the World Cup that he received much adulation. I don't think he was very popular with fans the first part of his career.

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                                    Meanwhile the Jaapies have won the toss again and will bat.

                                    Rabada in for them and Morris out.

                                    Ferguson in for us and Ish is out.

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                                      And as an aside - in other cricket news - I happened to look up the champions trophy format the other day and discovered that the Windies have been so poor they've been ousted by the Bangles.

                                      Our group is with Australia, England and the Bangles - so not to put too fine a point on things we pretty much need to hammer the Bangles and edge the poms to make the play-offs. If we beat the Aussies that would be a bonus, but I somewhat subscribe to the "French 2011" theory that we're not good enough to beat the Aussies twice in the same tournament, so we'd be better to keep our powder dry.

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                                        Pitch doesn't have much terror in it. Jaapies will be looking for something big.

                                        300 minimum.

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                                          Fairly ominous start from the Proteas. Hopefully we get a breakthrough soon - otherwise it could be a long day.

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