Black Caps v South Africa
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@Godder Statistically, it would be hard to argue against him.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=2;id=5;type=team
Changes in bat technology could still make a case for Astle.
Guppy's record is outstanding - especially opening - and that high score and strike rate are superior to Rossco, but those 17 centuries still edge it for me, statistically. To properly compare them you'd probably also need to look at some of the contexts in which their big innings (and failures) have been played.
Kane is coming along nicely, as well - but, needs some more hundreds.
@Chris-B. said in Black Caps v South Africa:
@Godder Statistically, it would be hard to argue against him.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=2;id=5;type=team
Changes in bat technology could still make a case for Astle.
Guppy's record is outstanding - especially opening - and that high score and strike rate are superior to Rossco, but those 17 centuries still edge it for me, statistically. To properly compare them you'd probably also need to look at some of the contexts in which their big innings (and failures) have been played.
Kane is coming along nicely, as well - but, needs some more hundreds.
Scoring 17 centuries at number 4 is especially impressive, as opening obviously has the most time.
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South Africa bowled so well in that game I don't think it would matter what we did. I thought we bowled well at time but it doesn't seem that way now. Wellington is a strange place to play. I have seen 300 chased down easily but also a lot of teams get rolled.
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Yeah - he's probably gone for 10-15 more than he should have.
Coney reckoning on the radio that he doesn't think this pitch is particularly easy. Kepler had earlier gone for a revision to 250 being competitive.
@Chris-B. said in Black Caps v South Africa:
Yeah - he's probably gone for 10-15 more than he should have.
Coney reckoning on the radio that he doesn't think this pitch is particularly easy. Kepler had earlier gone for a revision to 250 being competitive.
Clever bugger that Coney
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Safe to say Latham is gone and when he returns he won't be doing any wicket-keeping. Not sold on Ronchi either, might as well make Watling your number five or give Tom Blundell a go.
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@Chris-B. said in Black Caps v South Africa:
@Godder Statistically, it would be hard to argue against him.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=2;id=5;type=team
Changes in bat technology could still make a case for Astle.
Guppy's record is outstanding - especially opening - and that high score and strike rate are superior to Rossco, but those 17 centuries still edge it for me, statistically. To properly compare them you'd probably also need to look at some of the contexts in which their big innings (and failures) have been played.
Kane is coming along nicely, as well - but, needs some more hundreds.
Scoring 17 centuries at number 4 is especially impressive, as opening obviously has the most time.
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@Godder said in Black Caps v South Africa:
Scoring 17 centuries at number 4 is especially impressive.....
I just wish he would hurry up and score 25% more quickly, often he gets bogged down or out of form. Still, he's a very good player.
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I guess we're not travelling well now, Hesson.
He needs to make changes for ODI 4. Latham needs to be replaced before his test form goes to custard too.
@Bovidae said in Black Caps v South Africa:
I guess we're not travelling well now, Hesson.
He needs to make changes for ODI 4. Latham needs to be replaced before his test form goes to custard too.
Ummm ... we beat Aus (Ok Aus B ) and split two close ones v RSA. One fuck up isn't total disaster. (Wait till we do it twice ...)
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@Bovidae said in Black Caps v South Africa:
I guess we're not travelling well now, Hesson.
He needs to make changes for ODI 4. Latham needs to be replaced before his test form goes to custard too.
Ummm ... we beat Aus (Ok Aus B ) and split two close ones v RSA. One fuck up isn't total disaster. (Wait till we do it twice ...)
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@Bovidae sorry ... was referring to your first point:
"I guess we're not travelling well now,"
Not your point about Latham.
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@Bovidae sorry ... was referring to your first point:
"I guess we're not travelling well now,"
Not your point about Latham.
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We'll they've made changes - Guptill is back and Jeetan Patel is recalled. Henry released.
Hamilton is likely to be a turner again but I doubt they'll play 3 spinners. I wonder if Ronchi gets a chance again?
@Bovidae On Ronchi - have to be definitely wouldn't it?
Guptill will come in to open and I reckon they'll bring Ronchi in for Broom. One of the spinners will come in for Ferguson, as well.
Guptill, Brownlie, Williamson, Taylor, Neesham, de Grandhomme, Ronchi, Santner, Sodhi, Southee, Boult.
Aside from Guppy being rusty that's got to be an improvement given Tommy's recent form.
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We'll they've made changes - Guptill is back and Jeetan Patel is recalled. Henry released.
Hamilton is likely to be a turner again but I doubt they'll play 3 spinners. I wonder if Ronchi gets a chance again?
I think they'll have an eye on the champions trophy in England and wamt to get close to combinations for that.
Patel in English conditions is worth thinking about and one last hurrah for Ronchi as you don't want another Latham experiment (which Blundell would be) in the big money tournament - Lathams glovework was fine but that ain't so much the point -
A bit disappointing that someone (Sky?!!) can't coordinate things a bit better so that the rugby and cricket get spread across the weekend rather than everything being on Saturday and nothing, well aside from Womens' cricket, is on Sunday. Too obvious?
In any case, I just turned the TV on to see whether there's going to be anything on today worth watching and saw the NZ Ladies wicket keeper pull a Greg Dyer shocker. Ball bounced six inches in front of her and she claimed the catch.
Not good Rachel Priest!
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Since Ronchi scored that century against Sri Lanka (almost two years ago) he averages something like 12 in ODIs. I just don't see why he would be brought back in. You can just compare that to Watling who was dropped after three games in Australia when the whole team was shit. If Ronchi plays at all then he should be batting no higher than number eight.
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Since Ronchi scored that century against Sri Lanka (almost two years ago) he averages something like 12 in ODIs. I just don't see why he would be brought back in. You can just compare that to Watling who was dropped after three games in Australia when the whole team was shit. If Ronchi plays at all then he should be batting no higher than number eight.
