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2017 Bledisloe Cup & Rugby Championship (4 Nations)

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  • TimT Tim

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11920408

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    @Tim said in 2017 Bledisloe Cup & Rugby Championship (4 Nations):

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11920408

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      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/96688982/joe-moodys-season-over--all-blacks-call-up-kane-hames

      All Blacks head coach Steve Hansen threw the names of Tim Perry, Pauliasi Manu and the injured Mitchell Graham up as players who could potentially join the squad as training cover, but not with huge conviction.

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        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/96688982/joe-moodys-season-over--all-blacks-call-up-kane-hames

        All Blacks head coach Steve Hansen threw the names of Tim Perry, Pauliasi Manu and the injured Mitchell Graham up as players who could potentially join the squad as training cover, but not with huge conviction.

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        @Tim said in 2017 Bledisloe Cup & Rugby Championship (4 Nations):

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/96688982/joe-moodys-season-over--all-blacks-call-up-kane-hames

        All Blacks head coach Steve Hansen threw the names of Tim Perry, Pauliasi Manu and the injured Mitchell Graham up as players who could potentially join the squad as training cover, but not with huge conviction.

        Would have to be Manu surely. He may not have the complete skill set they desire but would hold his own in the scrums easily.

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          @Tim said in 2017 Bledisloe Cup & Rugby Championship (4 Nations):

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/96688982/joe-moodys-season-over--all-blacks-call-up-kane-hames

          All Blacks head coach Steve Hansen threw the names of Tim Perry, Pauliasi Manu and the injured Mitchell Graham up as players who could potentially join the squad as training cover, but not with huge conviction.

          Would have to be Manu surely. He may not have the complete skill set they desire but would hold his own in the scrums easily.

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          @Crucial Hard not to see Manu as no.4 behind Moody, Crockett and Hames. How old is he?

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            I wonder whether Reggie Goodes will ever return to the field. He had everything to become an All Black a few years ago, but due to his continuing concussion problems, he hasn't played in ages.

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              @Crucial Hard not to see Manu as no.4 behind Moody, Crockett and Hames. How old is he?

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              @pakman Born: 23 December 1987 (age 29)

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                Geez. This year we're really getting our depth tested in almost exactly those positions I had concerns over heading towards 2019.

                Hooker, both props, blindside, fullback.

                I'm looking at this from a glass half full perspective. While also at times regretting not seeing players as awesome as Coles and Bender not on the field.

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                  The All Blacks need their Props to be incredibly mobile and not "saving" themselves for scrum time only. The LH Props that suit this style of game are Alex Hodgman and Chris Eves. Tim Perry can only last 30 minutes before he is blowing and Manu needs to sort out his fitness. Mitchell Graham is not mobile at all.

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                    Boks have blueprint to beat ABs, but not Aussie it seems 😉

                    The way we are playing, Aus & Argies almost had that same blueprint, so I don't think it is far fetched to believe the Boks don't believe they cant finish the job the Argies & Aussies couldn't...whether they can is another matter entirely.

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/96702919/springboks-have-blueprint-to-beat-vulnerable-all-blacks

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                      Boks have blueprint to beat ABs, but not Aussie it seems 😉

                      The way we are playing, Aus & Argies almost had that same blueprint, so I don't think it is far fetched to believe the Boks don't believe they cant finish the job the Argies & Aussies couldn't...whether they can is another matter entirely.

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/96702919/springboks-have-blueprint-to-beat-vulnerable-all-blacks

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                      @taniwharugby the Boks play quite a different style to ABs, Wallabies and Pumas. They don't nearly pass the ball as much as the other three teams, whereas we and the others want to spread it which if not executed well is prone to errors and turnovers.

                      Boks play more compact using their forwards and midfielders for most of the ball running.

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                        It really is a shame about Moody. He's become an important ball runner for us this year. He's got a high skill level and has turned the corner from last years high penalty rate. He's a much improved scrummager and now like Franks is very aggressive in the tackle.

                        Big test to have both our frontline starting props out going into a home test vs the Boks.

                        Crockett is a worthy replacement and Laulala is settling in nicely (so far).

                        No matter who's on the bench this weekend, there's going to be a few nervous moments for AB fans when Hansen calls them in.

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                          It really is a shame about Moody. He's become an important ball runner for us this year. He's got a high skill level and has turned the corner from last years high penalty rate. He's a much improved scrummager and now like Franks is very aggressive in the tackle.

                          Big test to have both our frontline starting props out going into a home test vs the Boks.

                          Crockett is a worthy replacement and Laulala is settling in nicely (so far).

                          No matter who's on the bench this weekend, there's going to be a few nervous moments for AB fans when Hansen calls them in.

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                          @ACT-Crusader Yep, not looking forward to the usual Hames penalties.

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                            http://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/907070478879092736

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                              http://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/907070478879092736

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                              @Stargazer said in 2017 Bledisloe Cup & Rugby Championship (4 Nations):

                              http://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/907070478879092736

                              Good reward for a bloke who's stayed loyal despite not getting a lot of Super Rugby minutes.

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                                Can Ofa T scrum on the LH side ? so JTA or Moli could be tried at THP in Buenos Aires.

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                                  Can Ofa T scrum on the LH side ? so JTA or Moli could be tried at THP in Buenos Aires.

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                                  @cgrant said in 2017 Bledisloe Cup & Rugby Championship (4 Nations):

                                  Can Ofa T scrum on the LH side?

                                  Yeah, he started at loosehead against the Lions.

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                                    @pakman Born: 23 December 1987 (age 29)

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                                    @Tim said in 2017 Bledisloe Cup & Rugby Championship (4 Nations):

                                    @pakman Born: 23 December 1987 (age 29)

                                    Just hitting his prime.

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                                      @cgrant said in 2017 Bledisloe Cup & Rugby Championship (4 Nations):

                                      Can Ofa T scrum on the LH side?

                                      Yeah, he started at loosehead against the Lions.

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                                      @Tim said in 2017 Bledisloe Cup & Rugby Championship (4 Nations):

                                      @cgrant said in 2017 Bledisloe Cup & Rugby Championship (4 Nations):

                                      Can Ofa T scrum on the LH side?

                                      Yeah, he started at loosehead against the Lions.

                                      Bit of trivia, in Mako$ side for Waikato in NPC Perry was LH and Hames TH!

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                                        And let's be honest here the Mako$ scrum was pathetic against Canterbury in Round 1. Ofa is not a good LH at all, keep him on the TH, no need to experiment.

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                                          And let's be honest here the Mako$ scrum was pathetic against Canterbury in Round 1. Ofa is not a good LH at all, keep him on the TH, no need to experiment.

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                                          @number9
                                          No need to experiment ? But who could play on the LH side if another LHP is injured ? Graham, Manu ? None of them looks like having what the international game requires. On the other side of the scrum, JTA and Moli are both big, strong and very mobile, the type of props the All Blacks are fond of. That is why shifting Ofa T to the LH side could be interesting.

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