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  • SnowyS Snowy

    @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

    @snowy said in Americas Cup:

    @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

    the reasons for calling it off actually sounded like something that would be really interesting to watch

    Nope, that is why they called it off. Dogmeat's post did explain it quite well as to why it wouldn't be interesting at all.

    sorry...are you trying to tell me what i can and cant find interesting?

    dogmeat did give a good explanation of why it wouldn't be interesting...for you

    you seem to struggle to understand people can understand something and still have different opinions

    Of course we can different opinions, but the people who have been doing this for many years don't agree with you as to what makes a yacht race.

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    @snowy which is awesome, never said they had too

    We're allowed to speculate on things we might like to see, we talk about rugby rules all the time...

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      @snowy which is awesome, never said they had too

      We're allowed to speculate on things we might like to see, we talk about rugby rules all the time...

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      @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

      We're allowed to speculate on things we might like to see, we talk about rugby rules all the time...

      So what do you think are the acceptable wind limits? Variation in direction and speed?

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      • SnowyS Snowy

        @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

        We're allowed to speculate on things we might like to see, we talk about rugby rules all the time...

        So what do you think are the acceptable wind limits? Variation in direction and speed?

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        @snowy jesus man, i never claimed to be able to write a full set of rules, i just said they way you described shifting winds and changing conditions sounded like it could be interesting to watch

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          this thread had kind of wrapped up nicely with the win and now you've brought back up something you didn't like from a few days ago?

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            this thread had kind of wrapped up nicely with the win and now you've brought back up something you didn't like from a few days ago?

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            @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

            this thread had kind of wrapped up nicely with the win and now you've brought back up something you didn't like from a few days ago?

            He must be a woman

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              i take it im not allowed to say i also miss sail changes and the potential drama associated, dragging a spinnaker for too long and your lead is gone, can't say that because theyre not part of this rule? how about if i dared to say ive seen a lot of chat about wider courses and that sounded interesting too?

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                i take it im not allowed to say i also miss sail changes and the potential drama associated, dragging a spinnaker for too long and your lead is gone, can't say that because theyre not part of this rule? how about if i dared to say ive seen a lot of chat about wider courses and that sounded interesting too?

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                @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                i take it im not allowed to say i also miss sail changes and the potential drama associated, dragging a spinnaker for too long and your lead is gone, can't say that because theyre not part of this rule? how about if i dared to say ive seen a lot of chat about wider courses and that sounded interesting too?

                Spinnaker in the water was replaced by belly in the water. That was pretty damn exciting

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                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                  i take it im not allowed to say i also miss sail changes and the potential drama associated, dragging a spinnaker for too long and your lead is gone, can't say that because theyre not part of this rule? how about if i dared to say ive seen a lot of chat about wider courses and that sounded interesting too?

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                  @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                  i take it im not allowed to say i also miss sail changes and the potential drama associated, dragging a spinnaker for too long and your lead is gone, can't say that because theyre not part of this rule? how about if i dared to say ive seen a lot of chat about wider courses and that sounded interesting too?

                  I would agree with most of that.

                  AC is F1 of yachting though and development of the boats is a part of it. Things change with technology. I like these too:
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                  For me having sailed - Optis, Ps, Starlings, Lasers, 2 types of Hobies and then keelers (mostly 1020s), watch the type that you like. The spectacles that you seem to prefer are still available.

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                    Oh. I also miss rucking. That most of all, but I have some VHS tapes of it to reminisce.

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                    • MN5M MN5

                      @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                      this thread had kind of wrapped up nicely with the win and now you've brought back up something you didn't like from a few days ago?

                      He must be a woman

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                      @mn5 said in Americas Cup:

                      @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                      this thread had kind of wrapped up nicely with the win and now you've brought back up something you didn't like from a few days ago?

                      He must be a woman

                      I prefer "Polish Chick".

                      I also don't see every reply the instant it is posted, nor have the time to reply.

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                      • SnowyS Snowy

                        Oh. I also miss rucking. That most of all, but I have some VHS tapes of it to reminisce.

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                        @snowy said in Americas Cup:

                        Oh. I also miss rucking. That most of all, but I have some VHS tapes of it to reminisce.

                        so i take it you go and have a go whenever anyone on here mentioned bring back rucking? im sure i saw it brought up not long ago

                        the whole, im a sailor and so my understand and knowledge outweighs what you might find interesting because you'd just a fan, is the elitist BS people complain about

                        fuck that, i've watch every AC and a fair chunk of LV/PC races since 95 so i think im allowed to have an opinion

                        we dont stop people that have never played rugby from watching and having opinions

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                          We do stop people trying to change the rules though.

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                          • SnowyS Snowy

                            We do stop people trying to change the rules though.

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                            @snowy i never tried to change the rules, never even said they should, just mentioned that the races might be interesting if the rules were different

                            and as has been mentioned...the rules for the change every time round

                            did you write the rules? is that why you've taken this so personally?

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                              https://stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/300257383/americas-cup-stricter-crew-nationality-rule-brought-in-foiling-monohulls-confirmed-for-next-challenge

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                                Sounds like Ashby would still be ok but if I’m honest I wouldn’t begrudge him if he could be part of an Aussie team

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                                • L Luigi

                                  Good luck ETNZ.

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                                  @luigi said in Americas Cup:

                                  Good luck ETNZ.

                                  How come @Luigi managed a stealth drive by posting and no-one commented?

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                                    @luigi said in Americas Cup:

                                    Good luck ETNZ.

                                    How come @Luigi managed a stealth drive by posting and no-one commented?

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                                    @booboo said in Americas Cup:

                                    @luigi said in Americas Cup:

                                    Good luck ETNZ.

                                    How come @Luigi managed a stealth drive by posting and no-one commented?

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                                    • SnowyS Snowy

                                      @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                                      was quite clear that that was purely from the standpoint of a non sailor

                                      Yep, that was clear.

                                      @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                                      the reasons for calling it off actually sounded like something that would be really interesting to watch

                                      Nope, that is why they called it off. Dogmeat's post did explain it quite well as to why it wouldn't be interesting at all.

                                      As for the rules, they have a set of conditions that fall within parameters to create a contest and they followed them. Nice work.

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                                      @snowy said in Americas Cup:

                                      Dogmeat's post did explain it quite well

                                      :astonished_face:

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                                        https://stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/124651203/americas-cup-deed-of-gift-challenge-too-good-for-team-nz-to-ignore

                                        Sounds like a no brainer if Ineos is locked into having the AC regatta here in the event that they win

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                                        • canefanC canefan

                                          https://stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/124651203/americas-cup-deed-of-gift-challenge-too-good-for-team-nz-to-ignore

                                          Sounds like a no brainer if Ineos is locked into having the AC regatta here in the event that they win

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                                          @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                          Sounds like a no brainer if Ineos is locked into having the AC regatta here in the event that they win

                                          It sounds good in some ways - certainly be a big event.

                                          If we did lose though, they are the defender, and get to set all of the class rules, boat design, competition rules, wind limits (can be contentious to some), time limits (was an issue in SFO - cost us the cup), etc. Those are all a big advantage that we give away, which is why it has been so hard to take it away in the past. We would also have to the challenger of record at home next time to mitigate some of that.

                                          We might well win anyway, but we are gambling quite a bit. Sounds like a chance for the Brits to finally get their hands on it again and get the monkey of their back. Can't blame them for that.

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