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  • TimT Tim

    This is a key section of the article:

    At the council, there's a feeling that the investment in the Cup hasn't been worth it. Back in 2017, when the one and only business case for the event was conducted, MBIE estimated the 2021 America's Cup would add between $0.6 billion and $1b to New Zealand's economy.

    By 2019, that cost-benefit ratio was valued at below 1:1 by New Zealand Initiative chief economist Eric Crampton and University of Auckland economics Professor Tim Hazledine.

    Post the Covid-19 event, without international tourists and the lucrative superyacht trade, the direct economic losses will undoubtedly be massive when, and if, they are published by MBIE.

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    @tim Haven't read the article but the quote ignores the improvements along the waterfront that would have happened anyway but were brought forward because of the Cup.

    So many of the improvements to Auckland's public spaces have been driven by AC and RWC2011. I'm happy that we don't see areal return but instead get quality infrastructure.

    What's the ROI on Skypath or almost any public pool, library, museum, most roads ....

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      Some rich kiwi had come out and said he will bridge the gap between govt offer and the money needed to host the cup in NZ. As long as Team NZ and RNZYS commit to NZ, if the money is there. FFS. Why do these tossers come out with this at the 11Th hour? And the govt offer is now not there, cos it's too late. Would've been nice a few months ago. Sailing twiggy

      Paywalled https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/americas-cup-kiwi-rich-lister-mark-dunphy-at-helm-of-move-to-keep-next-cup-in-auckland/LPC2KWYY5U7RCVRY6NUWZM6MBA/

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      • M Machpants

        Some rich kiwi had come out and said he will bridge the gap between govt offer and the money needed to host the cup in NZ. As long as Team NZ and RNZYS commit to NZ, if the money is there. FFS. Why do these tossers come out with this at the 11Th hour? And the govt offer is now not there, cos it's too late. Would've been nice a few months ago. Sailing twiggy

        Paywalled https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/americas-cup-kiwi-rich-lister-mark-dunphy-at-helm-of-move-to-keep-next-cup-in-auckland/LPC2KWYY5U7RCVRY6NUWZM6MBA/

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        @machpants said in Americas Cup:

        Why do these tossers come out with this at the 11Th hour?...., cos it's too late

        You've answered your own question.
        "Oh... yeah, I'd be willing to spend a fuck-ton of money for this thing that everybody wants and be a hero... oh, it's too late, and I can keep all my lovely money, whilst keeping the hero-rep? That's a shame."

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        • KruseK Kruse

          @machpants said in Americas Cup:

          Why do these tossers come out with this at the 11Th hour?...., cos it's too late

          You've answered your own question.
          "Oh... yeah, I'd be willing to spend a fuck-ton of money for this thing that everybody wants and be a hero... oh, it's too late, and I can keep all my lovely money, whilst keeping the hero-rep? That's a shame."

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          #1330

          @kruse said in Americas Cup:

          @machpants said in Americas Cup:

          Why do these tossers come out with this at the 11Th hour?...., cos it's too late

          You've answered your own question.
          "Oh... yeah, I'd be willing to spend a fuck-ton of money for this thing that everybody wants and be a hero... oh, it's too late, and I can keep all my lovely money, whilst keeping the hero-rep? That's a shame."

          That's my initial thought, tho this guy has actually stumped up before. But it is cockwomble territory to me.

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          • M Machpants

            Some rich kiwi had come out and said he will bridge the gap between govt offer and the money needed to host the cup in NZ. As long as Team NZ and RNZYS commit to NZ, if the money is there. FFS. Why do these tossers come out with this at the 11Th hour? And the govt offer is now not there, cos it's too late. Would've been nice a few months ago. Sailing twiggy

            Paywalled https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/americas-cup-kiwi-rich-lister-mark-dunphy-at-helm-of-move-to-keep-next-cup-in-auckland/LPC2KWYY5U7RCVRY6NUWZM6MBA/

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            @machpants said in Americas Cup:

            Some rich kiwi had come out and said he will bridge the gap between govt offer and the money needed to host the cup in NZ. As long as Team NZ and RNZYS commit to NZ, if the money is there. FFS. Why do these tossers come out with this at the 11Th hour? And the govt offer is now not there, cos it's too late. Would've been nice a few months ago. Sailing twiggy

            Paywalled https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/americas-cup-kiwi-rich-lister-mark-dunphy-at-helm-of-move-to-keep-next-cup-in-auckland/LPC2KWYY5U7RCVRY6NUWZM6MBA/

            Mark has always been an opportunist.

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            • M Machpants

              @kruse said in Americas Cup:

              @machpants said in Americas Cup:

              Why do these tossers come out with this at the 11Th hour?...., cos it's too late

              You've answered your own question.
              "Oh... yeah, I'd be willing to spend a fuck-ton of money for this thing that everybody wants and be a hero... oh, it's too late, and I can keep all my lovely money, whilst keeping the hero-rep? That's a shame."

              That's my initial thought, tho this guy has actually stumped up before. But it is cockwomble territory to me.

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              Kiwiwomble
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              @machpants said in Americas Cup:

              @kruse said in Americas Cup:

              @machpants said in Americas Cup:

              Why do these tossers come out with this at the 11Th hour?...., cos it's too late

              You've answered your own question.
              "Oh... yeah, I'd be willing to spend a fuck-ton of money for this thing that everybody wants and be a hero... oh, it's too late, and I can keep all my lovely money, whilst keeping the hero-rep? That's a shame."

              That's my initial thought, tho this guy has actually stumped up before. But it is cockwomble territory to me.

              :astonished_face:

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              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                @machpants said in Americas Cup:

                @kruse said in Americas Cup:

                @machpants said in Americas Cup:

                Why do these tossers come out with this at the 11Th hour?...., cos it's too late

                You've answered your own question.
                "Oh... yeah, I'd be willing to spend a fuck-ton of money for this thing that everybody wants and be a hero... oh, it's too late, and I can keep all my lovely money, whilst keeping the hero-rep? That's a shame."

                That's my initial thought, tho this guy has actually stumped up before. But it is cockwomble territory to me.

                :astonished_face:

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                @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                @machpants said in Americas Cup:

                @kruse said in Americas Cup:

                @machpants said in Americas Cup:

                Why do these tossers come out with this at the 11Th hour?...., cos it's too late

                You've answered your own question.
                "Oh... yeah, I'd be willing to spend a fuck-ton of money for this thing that everybody wants and be a hero... oh, it's too late, and I can keep all my lovely money, whilst keeping the hero-rep? That's a shame."

                That's my initial thought, tho this guy has actually stumped up before. But it is cockwomble territory to me.

                :astonished_face:

                :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                Cockwomble
                (noun) A person, usually male, prone to making outrageously stupid statements and/or inappropriate behaviour while generally having a very high opinion of their own wisdom and importance.

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                • M Machpants

                  @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                  @machpants said in Americas Cup:

                  @kruse said in Americas Cup:

                  @machpants said in Americas Cup:

                  Why do these tossers come out with this at the 11Th hour?...., cos it's too late

                  You've answered your own question.
                  "Oh... yeah, I'd be willing to spend a fuck-ton of money for this thing that everybody wants and be a hero... oh, it's too late, and I can keep all my lovely money, whilst keeping the hero-rep? That's a shame."

                  That's my initial thought, tho this guy has actually stumped up before. But it is cockwomble territory to me.

                  :astonished_face:

                  :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                  Cockwomble
                  (noun) A person, usually male, prone to making outrageously stupid statements and/or inappropriate behaviour while generally having a very high opinion of their own wisdom and importance.

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                  @machpants but you seemed to use it like it was bad :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

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                    #1335

                    I guess it's par for the AC

                    https://stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/126443321/americas-cup-team-nz-says-home-defence-backer-mark-dunphy-called-rival-yacht-club

                    But I don't know what this Dunphy fella is playing at

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      I guess it's par for the AC

                      https://stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/126443321/americas-cup-team-nz-says-home-defence-backer-mark-dunphy-called-rival-yacht-club

                      But I don't know what this Dunphy fella is playing at

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                      @canefan i do prefer when the drama is more boat design based

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                        #1337

                        so Ineos have partnered with the Petronas F1 team and Alingi have signed on and partnered with the Red Bull Racing F1 team

                        looking lie where ever the next AC is held it will be a step up from last time technology wise from the contender side anyway

                        starting to feel a little like 2003, the game might be changing and someone is going to swoop in pinch it

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          so Ineos have partnered with the Petronas F1 team and Alingi have signed on and partnered with the Red Bull Racing F1 team

                          looking lie where ever the next AC is held it will be a step up from last time technology wise from the contender side anyway

                          starting to feel a little like 2003, the game might be changing and someone is going to swoop in pinch it

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                          Bovidae
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                          @kiwiwomble Luna Rossa rumoured to be partnering with Ferrari.

                          The ultimate mercenary Butterworth is still cashing in with Alinghi.

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                            @kiwiwomble Luna Rossa rumoured to be partnering with Ferrari.

                            The ultimate mercenary Butterworth is still cashing in with Alinghi.

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                            @bovidae yeah, seems an obvious fit....we'll probably end up partnering with a super cars team at best :cat_face_with_tears_of_joy:

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                              Who will TNZ pair with? 😞

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                                Who will TNZ pair with? 😞

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                                @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                Who will TNZ pair with? 😞

                                The big question.... Ford or Holden?

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                                  @bovidae yeah, seems an obvious fit....we'll probably end up partnering with a super cars team at best :cat_face_with_tears_of_joy:

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                                  @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                                  @bovidae yeah, seems an obvious fit....we'll probably end up partnering with a super cars team at best :cat_face_with_tears_of_joy:

                                  Yeah I can see it now....Dick Jones Racing Team NZ sponsored by Jennian Homes

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                                  • canefanC canefan

                                    Who will TNZ pair with? 😞

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                                    @canefan we’ve got Toyota.

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                                    • canefanC canefan

                                      Who will TNZ pair with? 😞

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                                      @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                      Who will TNZ pair with? 😞

                                      McLaren would make sense

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                                      • DuluthD Duluth

                                        @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                        Who will TNZ pair with? 😞

                                        McLaren would make sense

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                                        @duluth that would be nice

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                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/americas-cup-bracelona-spain-confirmed-as-next-host-as-ireland-pull-out-reports/2D5HX7KACOUMC2JPHC55ZMUZ5Q/

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