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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    @canefan said in Americas Cup:

    @bovidae said in Americas Cup:

    TNZ looked good in the pre-start and sailed a solid race. These conditions were more in Luna Rossa's sweet spot.

    That has to be demoralizing

    Bruni said that TNZ looks to be quicker upwind. The commentators think TNZ is faster in 12+ knots so let's hope for an increase in wind speed.

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    @bovidae said in Americas Cup:

    Bruni said that TNZ looks to be quicker upwind. The commentators think TNZ is faster in 12+ knots so let's hope for an increase in wind speed.

    Bruni's comment was interesting because it's not really the way it played out, or what the comms said. We seemed to have the boat speed more downwind, and the last leg I think we let loose a bit and extended easily.
    I'm just relieved that we do have a decent boat. There was a lot of hype about how fast we would be and it could have been very disappointing.

    It does look like we might have 16kts for the next one, and yeah, that should favour us.

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    • nzzpN nzzp

      @bovidae said in Americas Cup:

      @canefan said in Americas Cup:

      @bovidae said in Americas Cup:

      TNZ looked good in the pre-start and sailed a solid race. These conditions were more in Luna Rossa's sweet spot.

      That has to be demoralizing

      Bruni said that TNZ looks to be quicker upwind. The commentators think TNZ is faster in 12+ knots so let's hope for an increase in wind speed.

      I reckon they weren't really pushing it in the second half of the race. Looked to be cruising (relatively) - I suspect there is more speed tehre if they need it

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      @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

      @bovidae said in Americas Cup:

      @canefan said in Americas Cup:

      @bovidae said in Americas Cup:

      TNZ looked good in the pre-start and sailed a solid race. These conditions were more in Luna Rossa's sweet spot.

      That has to be demoralizing

      Bruni said that TNZ looks to be quicker upwind. The commentators think TNZ is faster in 12+ knots so let's hope for an increase in wind speed.

      I reckon they weren't really pushing it in the second half of the race. Looked to be cruising (relatively) - I suspect there is more speed tehre if they need it

      It looked that way for sure. Will be interesting if we do get behind to see what else they have in the bag.

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      • SnowyS Snowy

        @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

        @bovidae said in Americas Cup:

        @canefan said in Americas Cup:

        @bovidae said in Americas Cup:

        TNZ looked good in the pre-start and sailed a solid race. These conditions were more in Luna Rossa's sweet spot.

        That has to be demoralizing

        Bruni said that TNZ looks to be quicker upwind. The commentators think TNZ is faster in 12+ knots so let's hope for an increase in wind speed.

        I reckon they weren't really pushing it in the second half of the race. Looked to be cruising (relatively) - I suspect there is more speed tehre if they need it

        It looked that way for sure. Will be interesting if we do get behind to see what else they have in the bag.

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        @snowy not so much so far!

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        • SnowyS Snowy

          @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

          @bovidae said in Americas Cup:

          @canefan said in Americas Cup:

          @bovidae said in Americas Cup:

          TNZ looked good in the pre-start and sailed a solid race. These conditions were more in Luna Rossa's sweet spot.

          That has to be demoralizing

          Bruni said that TNZ looks to be quicker upwind. The commentators think TNZ is faster in 12+ knots so let's hope for an increase in wind speed.

          I reckon they weren't really pushing it in the second half of the race. Looked to be cruising (relatively) - I suspect there is more speed tehre if they need it

          It looked that way for sure. Will be interesting if we do get behind to see what else they have in the bag.

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          @snowy said in Americas Cup:

          @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

          @bovidae said in Americas Cup:

          @canefan said in Americas Cup:

          @bovidae said in Americas Cup:

          TNZ looked good in the pre-start and sailed a solid race. These conditions were more in Luna Rossa's sweet spot.

          That has to be demoralizing

          Bruni said that TNZ looks to be quicker upwind. The commentators think TNZ is faster in 12+ knots so let's hope for an increase in wind speed.

          I reckon they weren't really pushing it in the second half of the race. Looked to be cruising (relatively) - I suspect there is more speed tehre if they need it

          It looked that way for sure. Will be interesting if we do get behind to see what else they have in the bag.

          this will bea very interesting leg - Prada well in front round the first mark

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          • M Machpants

            Well TNZ lost the start, can we disprove the winning of the start is the winning of the race theory? If no team totally fucks up, I mean

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            @machpants said in Americas Cup:

            Well TNZ lost the start, can we disprove the winning of the start is the winning of the race theory? If no team totally fucks up, I mean

            They lost the start? They weren't in complete control for sure, but here wasn't a lot in it and they did get over the line ahead with better speed. I'd call that a win.

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            • SnowyS Snowy

              @machpants said in Americas Cup:

              Well TNZ lost the start, can we disprove the winning of the start is the winning of the race theory? If no team totally fucks up, I mean

              They lost the start? They weren't in complete control for sure, but here wasn't a lot in it and they did get over the line ahead with better speed. I'd call that a win.

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              @snowy said in Americas Cup:

              @machpants said in Americas Cup:

              Well TNZ lost the start, can we disprove the winning of the start is the winning of the race theory? If no team totally fucks up, I mean

              They lost the start? They weren't in complete control for sure, but here wasn't a lot in it and they did get over the line ahead with better speed. I'd call that a win.

              Race 2? Team NZ lost the start.

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                @machpants said in Americas Cup:

                Well TNZ lost the start, can we disprove the winning of the start is the winning of the race theory? If no team totally fucks up, I mean

                They lost the start? They weren't in complete control for sure, but here wasn't a lot in it and they did get over the line ahead with better speed. I'd call that a win.

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                @snowy they lost the start, and were lower and slower over the line

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                • nzzpN nzzp

                  @snowy they lost the start, and were lower and slower over the line

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                  @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

                  @snowy they lost the start, and were lower and slower over the line

                  Yeah and they just need to hold ahead, all LR now, TNZ not making a dent

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                    @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

                    @snowy they lost the start, and were lower and slower over the line

                    Yeah and they just need to hold ahead, all LR now, TNZ not making a dent

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                    Loving the intensity of AC. So much more than all races before

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                      Machpants
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                      Looks like both boats about the same, speed wise. So it'll come down to winning the start, and not fucking up. Close series

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                      • M Machpants

                        Looks like both boats about the same, speed wise. So it'll come down to winning the start, and not fucking up. Close series

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                        @machpants said in Americas Cup:

                        Looks like both boats about the same, speed wise. So it'll come down to winning the start, and not fucking up. Close series

                        going to be good. Hope TNZ win it though!

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                          So this is the faster boat in conditions that suit it coming a clear second?

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                            So this is the faster boat in conditions that suit it coming a clear second?

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                            @antipodean

                            No think these conditions are more Luna Rossa then ETNZ.

                            But really it’s showing you have to win the start

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                              JK
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                              AC is on. 1-1 !!

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                                Machpants
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                                Almost came back, but start so important. A couple of poor manoeuvres meant they had no chance to come back

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                                  Certainly understand the comparisons to Formula 1.

                                  Win qualifying (race start) and you win the race.

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                                    7 seconds by the end, one more leg and it could have been interesting

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                                      Bovidae
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                                      I enjoyed that race. The team that had port side in the pre-start won the start and both races.

                                      I can't see too many lead changes unless one team fucks up or there is a big wind shift.

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                                        Couple of sloppy gybes was the margin of victory.

                                        That's as close as we've seen to date to a team losing the start but winning the race.

                                        That last upwind leg was fantastic. Proper racing.

                                        So the pundits predict that today was sort of the crossover zone between Prada (light) and TNZ's (heavier winds) suggested areas of strength.

                                        Hasn't really told us much other than it shouldn't be a walk over.

                                        You have to imagine TNZ have more improvement in them than LR.

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                                        • dogmeatD dogmeat

                                          Couple of sloppy gybes was the margin of victory.

                                          That's as close as we've seen to date to a team losing the start but winning the race.

                                          That last upwind leg was fantastic. Proper racing.

                                          So the pundits predict that today was sort of the crossover zone between Prada (light) and TNZ's (heavier winds) suggested areas of strength.

                                          Hasn't really told us much other than it shouldn't be a walk over.

                                          You have to imagine TNZ have more improvement in them than LR.

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                                          @dogmeat said in Americas Cup:

                                          You have to imagine TNZ have more improvement in them than LR.

                                          100% mate 🤞🤞🤞

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