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  • canefanC canefan

    A quick look at the weather forecast suggests light winds until Thursday, when the wind will rise to 10+ knots. Hopefully at least one or two of next week's days will be called off (assuming they are scheduled to race every day). I would generaly regard late February and March as some of the nicest calmest weather in Auckland during the year (no stats to back me up, just the eye test), funny that we should expect more. If they wanted more wind they should have raced in November

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    @canefan said in Americas Cup:

    A quick look at the weather forecast suggests light winds until Thursday, when the wind will rise to 10+ knots. Hopefully at least one or two of next week's days will be called off (assuming they are scheduled to race every day). I would generaly regard late February and March as some of the nicest calmest weather in Auckland during the year (no stats to back me up, just the eye test), funny that we should expect more. If they wanted more wind they should have raced in November

    Peter Lester (I think) on Fevlin yesterday said March is the most settled calm weather in Aucks.

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      @canefan said in Americas Cup:

      A quick look at the weather forecast suggests light winds until Thursday, when the wind will rise to 10+ knots. Hopefully at least one or two of next week's days will be called off (assuming they are scheduled to race every day). I would generaly regard late February and March as some of the nicest calmest weather in Auckland during the year (no stats to back me up, just the eye test), funny that we should expect more. If they wanted more wind they should have raced in November

      Peter Lester (I think) on Fevlin yesterday said March is the most settled calm weather in Aucks.

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      @booboo said in Americas Cup:

      @canefan said in Americas Cup:

      A quick look at the weather forecast suggests light winds until Thursday, when the wind will rise to 10+ knots. Hopefully at least one or two of next week's days will be called off (assuming they are scheduled to race every day). I would generaly regard late February and March as some of the nicest calmest weather in Auckland during the year (no stats to back me up, just the eye test), funny that we should expect more. If they wanted more wind they should have raced in November

      Peter Lester (I think) on Fevlin yesterday said March is the most settled calm weather in Aucks.

      Then why did we choose March?

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        Another clear still morning in Auckland....

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        • canefanC canefan

          @booboo said in Americas Cup:

          @canefan said in Americas Cup:

          A quick look at the weather forecast suggests light winds until Thursday, when the wind will rise to 10+ knots. Hopefully at least one or two of next week's days will be called off (assuming they are scheduled to race every day). I would generaly regard late February and March as some of the nicest calmest weather in Auckland during the year (no stats to back me up, just the eye test), funny that we should expect more. If they wanted more wind they should have raced in November

          Peter Lester (I think) on Fevlin yesterday said March is the most settled calm weather in Aucks.

          Then why did we choose March?

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          @canefan said in Americas Cup:

          @booboo said in Americas Cup:

          @canefan said in Americas Cup:

          A quick look at the weather forecast suggests light winds until Thursday, when the wind will rise to 10+ knots. Hopefully at least one or two of next week's days will be called off (assuming they are scheduled to race every day). I would generaly regard late February and March as some of the nicest calmest weather in Auckland during the year (no stats to back me up, just the eye test), funny that we should expect more. If they wanted more wind they should have raced in November

          Peter Lester (I think) on Fevlin yesterday said March is the most settled calm weather in Aucks.

          Then why did we choose March?

          ... and optimise the boat for heavier winds?

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          • Canes4lifeC Online
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            Just spent the last week out on the course watching these boats up close and personal. The higher wind pressure on the first day of sailing made for great viewing, just a shame the lighter winds over the last few days have prevented these boats from hitting their straps.

            Just being out on the course with the masses was an experience in itself. Everyone having a great time partying, drinking, swimming - a real festival atmosphere.

            Only downside was the couple of arrogant dicks who decided that it would be a great idea to turn up last minute and park up in front of everyone else. Most of them were heckled until they moved which was rather hilarious.

            All in all, I would highly recommend the A Cup to anyone that hasn’t been out yet. Let’s just hope we get stronger winds so we can wrap this thing up.

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            • nzzpN nzzp

              @canefan said in Americas Cup:

              @booboo said in Americas Cup:

              @canefan said in Americas Cup:

              A quick look at the weather forecast suggests light winds until Thursday, when the wind will rise to 10+ knots. Hopefully at least one or two of next week's days will be called off (assuming they are scheduled to race every day). I would generaly regard late February and March as some of the nicest calmest weather in Auckland during the year (no stats to back me up, just the eye test), funny that we should expect more. If they wanted more wind they should have raced in November

              Peter Lester (I think) on Fevlin yesterday said March is the most settled calm weather in Aucks.

              Then why did we choose March?

              ... and optimise the boat for heavier winds?

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              @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

              @canefan said in Americas Cup:

              @booboo said in Americas Cup:

              @canefan said in Americas Cup:

              A quick look at the weather forecast suggests light winds until Thursday, when the wind will rise to 10+ knots. Hopefully at least one or two of next week's days will be called off (assuming they are scheduled to race every day). I would generaly regard late February and March as some of the nicest calmest weather in Auckland during the year (no stats to back me up, just the eye test), funny that we should expect more. If they wanted more wind they should have raced in November

              Peter Lester (I think) on Fevlin yesterday said March is the most settled calm weather in Aucks.

              Then why did we choose March?

              ... and optimise the boat for heavier winds?

              Just did a random google and if you look at the last 10 years of 13 March the wind “in Auckland” was 50% over 10km/h. 30% over 20km/h.

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                Course E today with 9-13 kts N/Ne so should be good to go

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                • CrucialC Crucial

                  @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

                  @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                  @booboo said in Americas Cup:

                  @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                  A quick look at the weather forecast suggests light winds until Thursday, when the wind will rise to 10+ knots. Hopefully at least one or two of next week's days will be called off (assuming they are scheduled to race every day). I would generaly regard late February and March as some of the nicest calmest weather in Auckland during the year (no stats to back me up, just the eye test), funny that we should expect more. If they wanted more wind they should have raced in November

                  Peter Lester (I think) on Fevlin yesterday said March is the most settled calm weather in Aucks.

                  Then why did we choose March?

                  ... and optimise the boat for heavier winds?

                  Just did a random google and if you look at the last 10 years of 13 March the wind “in Auckland” was 50% over 10km/h. 30% over 20km/h.

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                  @crucial said in Americas Cup:

                  @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

                  @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                  @booboo said in Americas Cup:

                  @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                  A quick look at the weather forecast suggests light winds until Thursday, when the wind will rise to 10+ knots. Hopefully at least one or two of next week's days will be called off (assuming they are scheduled to race every day). I would generaly regard late February and March as some of the nicest calmest weather in Auckland during the year (no stats to back me up, just the eye test), funny that we should expect more. If they wanted more wind they should have raced in November

                  Peter Lester (I think) on Fevlin yesterday said March is the most settled calm weather in Aucks.

                  Then why did we choose March?

                  ... and optimise the boat for heavier winds?

                  Just did a random google and if you look at the last 10 years of 13 March the wind “in Auckland” was 50% over 10km/h. 30% over 20km/h.

                  I would have expected them to know all these things. Sometimes the elements just don't come to the party

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                    #932

                    im on the americas cup fan facebook page and theres all these people complaining about it being called off and how poorly run the event is, why this time of years etc

                    was that the first day called off? cant have been many, im sure previously races were called off much more often

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                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                      im on the americas cup fan facebook page and theres all these people complaining about it being called off and how poorly run the event is, why this time of years etc

                      was that the first day called off? cant have been many, im sure previously races were called off much more often

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                      #933

                      @kiwiwomble they obviously don’t know much about sailing. Being a Laser sailor myself, having full days cancelled because of no wind is just how it goes. Doesn’t have anything to do with how the event is run. In fact I was very impressed with how things were handled both on and off the water at the America’s Cup. Great event to be apart of.

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                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                        @kiwiwomble they obviously don’t know much about sailing. Being a Laser sailor myself, having full days cancelled because of no wind is just how it goes. Doesn’t have anything to do with how the event is run. In fact I was very impressed with how things were handled both on and off the water at the America’s Cup. Great event to be apart of.

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                        @canes4life a fair chunk of them claim to be sailors to some degree, im only a fan and i thought wind delays and cancellations were pretty normal

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          @canes4life a fair chunk of them claim to be sailors to some degree, im only a fan and i thought wind delays and cancellations were pretty normal

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                          @kiwiwomble probably casual sailors who haven’t raced in competitive regattas.

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                          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                            im on the americas cup fan facebook page and theres all these people complaining about it being called off and how poorly run the event is, why this time of years etc

                            was that the first day called off? cant have been many, im sure previously races were called off much more often

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                            @kiwiwomble we had far more lost days in 2003. It's why the racing starts so late in the p.m. trying to take advantage of Auckland's afternoon sea breezes.

                            These courses are just too narrow. No real passing lanes and too easy for the leading yacht to impose a loose cover even when well in front.

                            We need some decent breezes or else some really fickle stuff to at least test out course strategy. To date both boats want to sail in the same place and its oh so easy for the leading boat to dictate.

                            It is why LR didn't cover (someone asked). They knew they were sailing the better side of the course and that TNZ going left was a desperate move with no real chance of coming off.

                            Having said all of the above there were some desperately dull races in the old 10 metres as well. San Diego comes to mind. Plus the course was about two hours offshore.

                            However SD does have the sinking of the Aussie challenge to recommend it as a venue.

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                            • dogmeatD dogmeat

                              @kiwiwomble we had far more lost days in 2003. It's why the racing starts so late in the p.m. trying to take advantage of Auckland's afternoon sea breezes.

                              These courses are just too narrow. No real passing lanes and too easy for the leading yacht to impose a loose cover even when well in front.

                              We need some decent breezes or else some really fickle stuff to at least test out course strategy. To date both boats want to sail in the same place and its oh so easy for the leading boat to dictate.

                              It is why LR didn't cover (someone asked). They knew they were sailing the better side of the course and that TNZ going left was a desperate move with no real chance of coming off.

                              Having said all of the above there were some desperately dull races in the old 10 metres as well. San Diego comes to mind. Plus the course was about two hours offshore.

                              However SD does have the sinking of the Aussie challenge to recommend it as a venue.

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                              @dogmeat said in Americas Cup:

                              @kiwiwomble we had far more lost days in 2003. It's why the racing starts so late in the p.m. trying to take advantage of Auckland's afternoon sea breezes.

                              thats what i remembered, and races being cancelled after they started etc, also races gettgin cancelled because there was too much wind

                              am i imagining races back them lasted much longer? a couple of hours on a light day

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                              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                @dogmeat said in Americas Cup:

                                @kiwiwomble we had far more lost days in 2003. It's why the racing starts so late in the p.m. trying to take advantage of Auckland's afternoon sea breezes.

                                thats what i remembered, and races being cancelled after they started etc, also races gettgin cancelled because there was too much wind

                                am i imagining races back them lasted much longer? a couple of hours on a light day

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                                @kiwiwomble bigger courses - slower boats - one race / day

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                                • dogmeatD dogmeat

                                  @kiwiwomble we had far more lost days in 2003. It's why the racing starts so late in the p.m. trying to take advantage of Auckland's afternoon sea breezes.

                                  These courses are just too narrow. No real passing lanes and too easy for the leading yacht to impose a loose cover even when well in front.

                                  We need some decent breezes or else some really fickle stuff to at least test out course strategy. To date both boats want to sail in the same place and its oh so easy for the leading boat to dictate.

                                  It is why LR didn't cover (someone asked). They knew they were sailing the better side of the course and that TNZ going left was a desperate move with no real chance of coming off.

                                  Having said all of the above there were some desperately dull races in the old 10 metres as well. San Diego comes to mind. Plus the course was about two hours offshore.

                                  However SD does have the sinking of the Aussie challenge to recommend it as a venue.

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                                  @dogmeat said in Americas Cup:

                                  @kiwiwomble we had far more lost days in 2003. It's why the racing starts so late in the p.m. trying to take advantage of Auckland's afternoon sea breezes.

                                  These courses are just too narrow. No real passing lanes and too easy for the leading yacht to impose a loose cover even when well in front.

                                  We need some decent breezes or else some really fickle stuff to at least test out course strategy. To date both boats want to sail in the same place and its oh so easy for the leading boat to dictate.

                                  It is why LR didn't cover (someone asked). They knew they were sailing the better side of the course and that TNZ going left was a desperate move with no real chance of coming off.

                                  Having said all of the above there were some desperately dull races in the old 10 metres as well. San Diego comes to mind. Plus the course was about two hours offshore.

                                  However SD does have the sinking of the Aussie challenge to recommend it as a venue.

                                  12m yachts you mean? Pedant Alert** Yes they were painfully slow. I remember having an AC video game on my old Commodore 64, half the time the races got abandoned due to lack of wind and time limit elapsed

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                                    @kiwiwomble bigger courses - slower boats - one race / day

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                                    @dogmeat and more lead changes

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                                    • canefanC canefan

                                      @dogmeat said in Americas Cup:

                                      @kiwiwomble we had far more lost days in 2003. It's why the racing starts so late in the p.m. trying to take advantage of Auckland's afternoon sea breezes.

                                      These courses are just too narrow. No real passing lanes and too easy for the leading yacht to impose a loose cover even when well in front.

                                      We need some decent breezes or else some really fickle stuff to at least test out course strategy. To date both boats want to sail in the same place and its oh so easy for the leading boat to dictate.

                                      It is why LR didn't cover (someone asked). They knew they were sailing the better side of the course and that TNZ going left was a desperate move with no real chance of coming off.

                                      Having said all of the above there were some desperately dull races in the old 10 metres as well. San Diego comes to mind. Plus the course was about two hours offshore.

                                      However SD does have the sinking of the Aussie challenge to recommend it as a venue.

                                      12m yachts you mean? Pedant Alert** Yes they were painfully slow. I remember having an AC video game on my old Commodore 64, half the time the races got abandoned due to lack of wind and time limit elapsed

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                                      @canefan I knew 10 metres was wrong but couldn't remember and too friggin lazy to fact check. It's the 21st century -facts are inconveniences

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                                      • canefanC canefan

                                        @crucial said in Americas Cup:

                                        @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

                                        @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                        @booboo said in Americas Cup:

                                        @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                        A quick look at the weather forecast suggests light winds until Thursday, when the wind will rise to 10+ knots. Hopefully at least one or two of next week's days will be called off (assuming they are scheduled to race every day). I would generaly regard late February and March as some of the nicest calmest weather in Auckland during the year (no stats to back me up, just the eye test), funny that we should expect more. If they wanted more wind they should have raced in November

                                        Peter Lester (I think) on Fevlin yesterday said March is the most settled calm weather in Aucks.

                                        Then why did we choose March?

                                        ... and optimise the boat for heavier winds?

                                        Just did a random google and if you look at the last 10 years of 13 March the wind “in Auckland” was 50% over 10km/h. 30% over 20km/h.

                                        I would have expected them to know all these things. Sometimes the elements just don't come to the party

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                                        @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                        @crucial said in Americas Cup:

                                        @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

                                        @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                        @booboo said in Americas Cup:

                                        @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                        A quick look at the weather forecast suggests light winds until Thursday, when the wind will rise to 10+ knots. Hopefully at least one or two of next week's days will be called off (assuming they are scheduled to race every day). I would generaly regard late February and March as some of the nicest calmest weather in Auckland during the year (no stats to back me up, just the eye test), funny that we should expect more. If they wanted more wind they should have raced in November

                                        Peter Lester (I think) on Fevlin yesterday said March is the most settled calm weather in Aucks.

                                        Then why did we choose March?

                                        ... and optimise the boat for heavier winds?

                                        Just did a random google and if you look at the last 10 years of 13 March the wind “in Auckland” was 50% over 10km/h. 30% over 20km/h.

                                        I would have expected them to know all these things. Sometimes the elements just don't come to the party

                                        Isn’t it just an assumption that ETNZ have built for strong winds? We haven’t seen their relative speed in that area yet.

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                                        • CrucialC Crucial

                                          @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                          @crucial said in Americas Cup:

                                          @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

                                          @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                          @booboo said in Americas Cup:

                                          @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                          A quick look at the weather forecast suggests light winds until Thursday, when the wind will rise to 10+ knots. Hopefully at least one or two of next week's days will be called off (assuming they are scheduled to race every day). I would generaly regard late February and March as some of the nicest calmest weather in Auckland during the year (no stats to back me up, just the eye test), funny that we should expect more. If they wanted more wind they should have raced in November

                                          Peter Lester (I think) on Fevlin yesterday said March is the most settled calm weather in Aucks.

                                          Then why did we choose March?

                                          ... and optimise the boat for heavier winds?

                                          Just did a random google and if you look at the last 10 years of 13 March the wind “in Auckland” was 50% over 10km/h. 30% over 20km/h.

                                          I would have expected them to know all these things. Sometimes the elements just don't come to the party

                                          Isn’t it just an assumption that ETNZ have built for strong winds? We haven’t seen their relative speed in that area yet.

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                                          @crucial said in Americas Cup:

                                          @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                          @crucial said in Americas Cup:

                                          @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

                                          @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                          @booboo said in Americas Cup:

                                          @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                          A quick look at the weather forecast suggests light winds until Thursday, when the wind will rise to 10+ knots. Hopefully at least one or two of next week's days will be called off (assuming they are scheduled to race every day). I would generaly regard late February and March as some of the nicest calmest weather in Auckland during the year (no stats to back me up, just the eye test), funny that we should expect more. If they wanted more wind they should have raced in November

                                          Peter Lester (I think) on Fevlin yesterday said March is the most settled calm weather in Aucks.

                                          Then why did we choose March?

                                          ... and optimise the boat for heavier winds?

                                          Just did a random google and if you look at the last 10 years of 13 March the wind “in Auckland” was 50% over 10km/h. 30% over 20km/h.

                                          I would have expected them to know all these things. Sometimes the elements just don't come to the party

                                          Isn’t it just an assumption that ETNZ have built for strong winds? We haven’t seen their relative speed in that area yet.

                                          We have been faster than them so far IMO. It's just that once LR get in front there is no way to straight out drag them off. But we have stayed close whereas when we got ahead last time we smoked them

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