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  • canefanC canefan

    @dogmeat said in Americas Cup:

    @kiwiwomble we had far more lost days in 2003. It's why the racing starts so late in the p.m. trying to take advantage of Auckland's afternoon sea breezes.

    These courses are just too narrow. No real passing lanes and too easy for the leading yacht to impose a loose cover even when well in front.

    We need some decent breezes or else some really fickle stuff to at least test out course strategy. To date both boats want to sail in the same place and its oh so easy for the leading boat to dictate.

    It is why LR didn't cover (someone asked). They knew they were sailing the better side of the course and that TNZ going left was a desperate move with no real chance of coming off.

    Having said all of the above there were some desperately dull races in the old 10 metres as well. San Diego comes to mind. Plus the course was about two hours offshore.

    However SD does have the sinking of the Aussie challenge to recommend it as a venue.

    12m yachts you mean? Pedant Alert** Yes they were painfully slow. I remember having an AC video game on my old Commodore 64, half the time the races got abandoned due to lack of wind and time limit elapsed

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    @canefan I knew 10 metres was wrong but couldn't remember and too friggin lazy to fact check. It's the 21st century -facts are inconveniences

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    • canefanC canefan

      @crucial said in Americas Cup:

      @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

      @canefan said in Americas Cup:

      @booboo said in Americas Cup:

      @canefan said in Americas Cup:

      A quick look at the weather forecast suggests light winds until Thursday, when the wind will rise to 10+ knots. Hopefully at least one or two of next week's days will be called off (assuming they are scheduled to race every day). I would generaly regard late February and March as some of the nicest calmest weather in Auckland during the year (no stats to back me up, just the eye test), funny that we should expect more. If they wanted more wind they should have raced in November

      Peter Lester (I think) on Fevlin yesterday said March is the most settled calm weather in Aucks.

      Then why did we choose March?

      ... and optimise the boat for heavier winds?

      Just did a random google and if you look at the last 10 years of 13 March the wind โ€œin Aucklandโ€ was 50% over 10km/h. 30% over 20km/h.

      I would have expected them to know all these things. Sometimes the elements just don't come to the party

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      #942

      @canefan said in Americas Cup:

      @crucial said in Americas Cup:

      @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

      @canefan said in Americas Cup:

      @booboo said in Americas Cup:

      @canefan said in Americas Cup:

      A quick look at the weather forecast suggests light winds until Thursday, when the wind will rise to 10+ knots. Hopefully at least one or two of next week's days will be called off (assuming they are scheduled to race every day). I would generaly regard late February and March as some of the nicest calmest weather in Auckland during the year (no stats to back me up, just the eye test), funny that we should expect more. If they wanted more wind they should have raced in November

      Peter Lester (I think) on Fevlin yesterday said March is the most settled calm weather in Aucks.

      Then why did we choose March?

      ... and optimise the boat for heavier winds?

      Just did a random google and if you look at the last 10 years of 13 March the wind โ€œin Aucklandโ€ was 50% over 10km/h. 30% over 20km/h.

      I would have expected them to know all these things. Sometimes the elements just don't come to the party

      Isnโ€™t it just an assumption that ETNZ have built for strong winds? We havenโ€™t seen their relative speed in that area yet.

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        @canefan said in Americas Cup:

        @crucial said in Americas Cup:

        @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

        @canefan said in Americas Cup:

        @booboo said in Americas Cup:

        @canefan said in Americas Cup:

        A quick look at the weather forecast suggests light winds until Thursday, when the wind will rise to 10+ knots. Hopefully at least one or two of next week's days will be called off (assuming they are scheduled to race every day). I would generaly regard late February and March as some of the nicest calmest weather in Auckland during the year (no stats to back me up, just the eye test), funny that we should expect more. If they wanted more wind they should have raced in November

        Peter Lester (I think) on Fevlin yesterday said March is the most settled calm weather in Aucks.

        Then why did we choose March?

        ... and optimise the boat for heavier winds?

        Just did a random google and if you look at the last 10 years of 13 March the wind โ€œin Aucklandโ€ was 50% over 10km/h. 30% over 20km/h.

        I would have expected them to know all these things. Sometimes the elements just don't come to the party

        Isnโ€™t it just an assumption that ETNZ have built for strong winds? We havenโ€™t seen their relative speed in that area yet.

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        canefan
        wrote on last edited by
        #943

        @crucial said in Americas Cup:

        @canefan said in Americas Cup:

        @crucial said in Americas Cup:

        @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

        @canefan said in Americas Cup:

        @booboo said in Americas Cup:

        @canefan said in Americas Cup:

        A quick look at the weather forecast suggests light winds until Thursday, when the wind will rise to 10+ knots. Hopefully at least one or two of next week's days will be called off (assuming they are scheduled to race every day). I would generaly regard late February and March as some of the nicest calmest weather in Auckland during the year (no stats to back me up, just the eye test), funny that we should expect more. If they wanted more wind they should have raced in November

        Peter Lester (I think) on Fevlin yesterday said March is the most settled calm weather in Aucks.

        Then why did we choose March?

        ... and optimise the boat for heavier winds?

        Just did a random google and if you look at the last 10 years of 13 March the wind โ€œin Aucklandโ€ was 50% over 10km/h. 30% over 20km/h.

        I would have expected them to know all these things. Sometimes the elements just don't come to the party

        Isnโ€™t it just an assumption that ETNZ have built for strong winds? We havenโ€™t seen their relative speed in that area yet.

        We have been faster than them so far IMO. It's just that once LR get in front there is no way to straight out drag them off. But we have stayed close whereas when we got ahead last time we smoked them

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          @canefan said in Americas Cup:

          @crucial said in Americas Cup:

          @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

          @canefan said in Americas Cup:

          @booboo said in Americas Cup:

          @canefan said in Americas Cup:

          A quick look at the weather forecast suggests light winds until Thursday, when the wind will rise to 10+ knots. Hopefully at least one or two of next week's days will be called off (assuming they are scheduled to race every day). I would generaly regard late February and March as some of the nicest calmest weather in Auckland during the year (no stats to back me up, just the eye test), funny that we should expect more. If they wanted more wind they should have raced in November

          Peter Lester (I think) on Fevlin yesterday said March is the most settled calm weather in Aucks.

          Then why did we choose March?

          ... and optimise the boat for heavier winds?

          Just did a random google and if you look at the last 10 years of 13 March the wind โ€œin Aucklandโ€ was 50% over 10km/h. 30% over 20km/h.

          I would have expected them to know all these things. Sometimes the elements just don't come to the party

          Isnโ€™t it just an assumption that ETNZ have built for strong winds? We havenโ€™t seen their relative speed in that area yet.

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          #944

          @crucial i dont know what to believe anymore, second race on sat was some of the lightest winds and we were flying

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            @crucial i dont know what to believe anymore, second race on sat was some of the lightest winds and we were flying

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            canefan
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            #945

            @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

            @crucial i dont know what to believe anymore, second race on sat was some of the lightest winds and we were flying

            Obviously passing is a problem

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            • TimT Away
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              Tim
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              #946

              Come on! This is more like it. ๐Ÿ™‚

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              • TimT Tim

                Come on! This is more like it. ๐Ÿ™‚

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                nzzp
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                #947

                @tim said in Americas Cup:

                Come on! This is more like it. ๐Ÿ™‚

                First pass in the Cup. Outstanding effort from TNZ

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                • M Offline
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                  Machpants
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                  #948

                  An overtake!

                  Lol "they're sitting on their face like no one's sat on a face before"

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                  • canefanC Online
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                    canefan
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                    #949

                    Driving home listening to Peter Montgomery on the wireless!

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                      Bovidae
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #950

                      Some excitement at last!

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        Driving home listening to Peter Montgomery on the wireless!

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                        JK
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                        #951

                        @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                        Driving home listening to Peter Montgomery on the wireless!

                        He must be waxing lyrical at the site of this.... 'Greeeetings!!!!'

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                        • JKJ JK

                          @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                          Driving home listening to Peter Montgomery on the wireless!

                          He must be waxing lyrical at the site of this.... 'Greeeetings!!!!'

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                          canefan
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #952

                          @jk said in Americas Cup:

                          @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                          Driving home listening to Peter Montgomery on the wireless!

                          He must be waxing lyrical at the site of this.... 'Greeeetings!!!!'

                          No one has the blowtorch on the undies yet, probably if we get ahead in race 2

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                            canefan
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                            #953

                            Who had the starting side advantage?

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                            • canefanC canefan

                              Who had the starting side advantage?

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                              nzzp
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                              #954

                              @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                              Who had the starting side advantage?

                              they did. Big second race coming up

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                              • nzzpN nzzp

                                @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                Who had the starting side advantage?

                                they did. Big second race coming up

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                                canefan
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #955

                                @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

                                @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                Who had the starting side advantage?

                                they did. Big second race coming up

                                Might be the turning point

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                                  Machpants
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                                  #956

                                  3 to 5 knots faster throughout

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                                    Canes4life
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                                    #957

                                    Bloody well sailed. How big is that race going to be towards the outcome of the A Cup. Make it 5-3 boys.

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                                      Bovidae
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                                      #958

                                      3 wins in a row for the starboard entry boat.

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                                        Donsteppa
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                                        #959

                                        That was a good race to tune into ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                        • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                          That was a good race to tune into ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                          JK
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                                          #960

                                          How good were the first few legs with it nice n close.

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