All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1
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"Ryan Crotty has pulled his hammy, so we already had Jack Goodhue in as a replacement to help him out with his ribs.
"Jack will be staying with us, and we will try to get Ryan ready maybe for the last test if we're lucky."Goodhue is shit, plays in a good team is not an AB centre christ is at best a Callum Ralph. Seems you only have to pull on a Cantab shirt and your in :rolling_eyes:
@Wreck-Diver said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
"Ryan Crotty has pulled his hammy, so we already had Jack Goodhue in as a replacement to help him out with his ribs.
"Jack will be staying with us, and we will try to get Ryan ready maybe for the last test if we're lucky."Goodhue is shit, plays in a good team is not an AB centre christ is at best a Callum Ralph. Seems you only have to pull on a Cantab shirt and your in :rolling_eyes:
Tell us what you really think aftet watching a single one of Goodhues games, Grant Fox.
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This asshole from Stuff:
Jerome Kaino 5: Rarely sighted in the first half and off in the 46th minute after colliding with Cane.
Ah ... he was our leading ball carrier before he went off.
@Tim said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
This asshole from Stuff:
Jerome Kaino 5: Rarely sighted in the first half and off in the 46th minute after colliding with Cane.
Ah ... he was our leading ball carrier before he went off.
What blind arseclown wrote that? Kaino was massive in the first half. You have to wonder how much some of these dickheads even know about the game. Rarely sighted ffs.
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Tim yeah don't think I'd gamble on TJP, his passing this season has been atrocious at times. Smith just needs time out there I guess.
One thing I was disappointed with on Cane was his propensity to get a bit lost when the ball is coming his way on attack - but again, time out there fixes that.
My call on ALB possibly covering wing looks like it was a bit shit - he was shown up badly for pace a couple of times.
Are you talking about that period just after he got jammed, was clearly in need of a spell, but kept being given the seed? He clearly didn't want to throw himself in to the teeth for a few minutes.
Because itherwise his touchrs in attack were better than i expected. Couple of guys beaten with footwork, and some slick short passes
@mariner4life yeah probably hard marking - probably because I think he handled the ball a bit more than usual but once or twice early in each half he got the ball and seemed a bit unsure on what option to take or fumbled slightly when it appeared something might be on outside him. He wasn't the only one though.
He did make some impressive runs with nice footwork you don't often see from him.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Tim said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Bones Start TJP next week?
Dagg to fullback I guess, or do they go for Jordie?
Ioane and Naholo the wings? Or does Savea come back?
I wouldn't be surprised if they bring Jordie in. The two fullbacks is an important part of our gameplan.
We did lose our shape when Cruden came on to 1st 5. He got a little better later in the 2nd half. But I'm not the biggest fan of moving Barrett from 1st 5. He's currently our best 1st 5 so should play 80 there if he's fit.
I think you're all going overboard on Cruden - he seems to be the new Fern piñata no matter what he does. We lost shape for a number of reasons, and we were already losing shape when BB was still at 10. Also, I said earlier in the thread that BB did a couple of dud kicks when it was at least 3 one which was a similar chip kick as Cruden's that went straight back of a Lion.
When the ABs pulled away in the second half Cruden was steering the ship from 10 and if you look at the good attacking play he was one of the key guys moving the ball into space.
I don't know why he was taking the line kicks though, I would have thought Barrett would have kept that job.
@Nepia said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Tim said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Bones Start TJP next week?
Dagg to fullback I guess, or do they go for Jordie?
Ioane and Naholo the wings? Or does Savea come back?
I wouldn't be surprised if they bring Jordie in. The two fullbacks is an important part of our gameplan.
We did lose our shape when Cruden came on to 1st 5. He got a little better later in the 2nd half. But I'm not the biggest fan of moving Barrett from 1st 5. He's currently our best 1st 5 so should play 80 there if he's fit.
I think you're all going overboard on Cruden - he seems to be the new Fern piñata no matter what he does. We lost shape for a number of reasons, and we were already losing shape when BB was still at 10. Also, I said earlier in the thread that BB did a couple of dud kicks when it was at least 3 one which was a similar chip kick as Cruden's that went straight back of a Lion.
When the ABs pulled away in the second half Cruden was steering the ship from 10 and if you look at the good attacking play he was one of the key guys moving the ball into space.
I don't know why he was taking the line kicks though, I would have thought Barrett would have kept that job.
I'm surprised we don't use Dagg. He must have the longest boot - I guess not the most accurate? That missed touch was a killer though - plus the shitty dinky kick that lead to the Lions try. Apart from that, Cruden was Ok, but he wasn't especially dangerous.
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"Ryan Crotty has pulled his hammy, so we already had Jack Goodhue in as a replacement to help him out with his ribs.
"Jack will be staying with us, and we will try to get Ryan ready maybe for the last test if we're lucky."Goodhue is shit, plays in a good team is not an AB centre christ is at best a Callum Ralph. Seems you only have to pull on a Cantab shirt and your in :rolling_eyes:
@Wreck-Diver said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
"Ryan Crotty has pulled his hammy, so we already had Jack Goodhue in as a replacement to help him out with his ribs.
"Jack will be staying with us, and we will try to get Ryan ready maybe for the last test if we're lucky."Goodhue is shit, plays in a good team is not an AB centre christ is at best a Callum Ralph. Seems you only have to pull on a Cantab shirt and your in :rolling_eyes:
Where has this come from? I think you'd be the only person who doesn't rate Goodhue. How is Malakai anyway, Mrs Fekitoa?
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@Wreck-Diver said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
"Ryan Crotty has pulled his hammy, so we already had Jack Goodhue in as a replacement to help him out with his ribs.
"Jack will be staying with us, and we will try to get Ryan ready maybe for the last test if we're lucky."Goodhue is shit, plays in a good team is not an AB centre christ is at best a Callum Ralph. Seems you only have to pull on a Cantab shirt and your in :rolling_eyes:
Tell us what you really think aftet watching a single one of Goodhues games, Grant Fox.
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Goodhue is a very classy player but obviously very young so I'd be nervous about him starting, though obviously he'd be a bench option at best.
Crotty is a massive loss, SBW/ALB is great on attack but they are a bit disorganised on defense at times.
Personally I'd prefer those two starting with Fekitoa on the bench to come on late and smack Lions backwards.
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@Canerbry Next you going to tell us the R Thorne was one of the greats
@Wreck-Diver next you'll be telling us he wasn't. Have another Hallertau and go to sleep.
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Ioane could be tested with the 13 jersey ... during the RC. He played there for the Blues in the early rounds of SR but had Moala as 2nd Five. A midfield association with SBW could be lethal, with either Naholo or Savea on the left wing. But I really hope ALB to play a lot better in the second test.
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Unsung hero was SBW, who was used almost obsessively to cart it up, often off static ball or poor passes.
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What a game. The intensity and quality was through the roof. Amazing.
What a magnificent Lions first half try.
Hard to pick out individuals in a game like that but standouts for me included Brodie, Read, Aaron Smith, SBW and Crotty (before he went off). A special mention also to Sam Cane who I thought played his best test and Rieko Ioane who after a quiet first half (though importantly did nothing wrong) was sensational in the second half - what a star. Bench was great.
Pub in Melbourne I was in was absolutely jam packed for the game with roughly 50/50 support. A lot of fun.
Edit - forgot to mention Dagg. Some huge plays from him
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Great test. For 50 minutes that was nail biting stuff. Some huge performances from both sets of players.
Crowd seemed to go quiet when we pulled away? Celebrate you bastards
Crowd had a huge red contingent.
Apparently 30k of tickets when to lions supporters??
They were everywhere -
Moody and Franks really set the tone early with some massive hits and work at the breakdown.
Taylor really stepped it up. Great hands. I'm sure they'll work out a strategy so he's not doing doing the Mealamu to start each lineout.
Whitelock as reliable as ever.
Read, welcome back bro. Huge performance.
Crotty was excellent and we were carving up in the midfield early on. Some great support play and offloads.
Dagg, his best test for some time. Lots of close in work, great tackling and some big kicks to get territory back.
Crockett great impact at scrum and in the loose.
Did I miss anyone? Oh yeah the other blokes did alright
@ACT-Crusader I agree and appreciate their efforts but would it be good to have Charlie or someone like him for 80 minutes. I think he really help change the game. Cane had a patch where he was being driven back, Kaino was gone and we look shakey.
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@MrDenmore said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Who are they going to bring into the side to replace Ben Smith and Ryan Crotty?
Naholo/Savea & ALB.
If out for series, NMS & Goodhue come in.
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@Tim yeah don't think I'd gamble on TJP, his passing this season has been atrocious at times. Smith just needs time out there I guess.
One thing I was disappointed with on Cane was his propensity to get a bit lost when the ball is coming his way on attack - but again, time out there fixes that.
My call on ALB possibly covering wing looks like it was a bit shit - he was shown up badly for pace a couple of times.
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Fowrward for me. Technique from Dagg all wrong.
Two words ...
"Ba"
And "Hahahahaha"
That they missed it?
@MiketheSnow I think it was worth looking at.
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Wonder what Chris Fucking Rattue has to say about now... clearly he didn't know his Chiefs selection that well...
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Wonder what Chris Fucking Rattue has to say about now... clearly he didn't know his Chiefs selection that well...
Read is past it and should retire I'd imagine.
Followed by we really need Damian McKenzie at 10.
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@MrDenmore said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Who are they going to bring into the side to replace Ben Smith and Ryan Crotty?
Not Laumape please. Not the right time or place.
I'd go goodhue. But they might bring back fekitoa.
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"Ryan Crotty has pulled his hammy, so we already had Jack Goodhue in as a replacement to help him out with his ribs.
"Jack will be staying with us, and we will try to get Ryan ready maybe for the last test if we're lucky."Goodhue is shit, plays in a good team is not an AB centre christ is at best a Callum Ralph. Seems you only have to pull on a Cantab shirt and your in :rolling_eyes:
@Wreck-Diver said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
"Ryan Crotty has pulled his hammy, so we already had Jack Goodhue in as a replacement to help him out with his ribs.
"Jack will be staying with us, and we will try to get Ryan ready maybe for the last test if we're lucky."Goodhue is shit, plays in a good team is not an AB centre christ is at best a Callum Ralph. Seems you only have to pull on a Cantab shirt and your in :rolling_eyes:
How to pick someone who's either watched no rugby all season or mainly follows soccer. What planet are you on?
