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All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2

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    #93

    Has anyone worked out if Gatland is having a whinge because:

    a) he is just having a cry and knows the NH media will be sympathetic to his cause.
    b) calculated ploy to try and make referees overly judicious for tests 2 & 3 in regards to the offside line and charging down box kicks - making a major (only?) part of the Lions attack easier to execute.

    I want to believe b) but Gats track record makes that difficult.

    It's obviously not because he cares for players safety otherwise he wouldn't have selected Warburton to skipper.

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      Has anyone worked out if Gatland is having a whinge because:

      a) he is just having a cry and knows the NH media will be sympathetic to his cause.
      b) calculated ploy to try and make referees overly judicious for tests 2 & 3 in regards to the offside line and charging down box kicks - making a major (only?) part of the Lions attack easier to execute.

      I want to believe b) but Gats track record makes that difficult.

      It's obviously not because he cares for players safety otherwise he wouldn't have selected Warburton to skipper.

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      @rotated said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

      Has anyone worked out if Gatland is having a whinge because:

      a) he is just having a cry and knows the NH media will be sympathetic to his cause.
      b) calculated ploy to try and make referees overly judicious for tests 2 & 3 in regards to the offside line and charging down box kicks - making a major (only?) part of the Lions attack easier to execute.

      I want to believe b) but Gats track record makes that difficult.

      It's obviously not because he cares for players safety otherwise he wouldn't have selected Warburton to skipper.

      If he's successful with b) then a) will take care of itself. So I would say b).

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      • jeggaJ jegga

        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

        @Margin_Walker said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

        @Bones

        Nah, not really. Aware Faletau's not in this shot, but there was very little contact with him and Kaino is never going to reach the ball. No big deal, but it's on Kaino for me. Each to their own though.

        https://twitter.com/mike_cantillon/status/879333982596468736

        That video is absolutely hilarious. Instead of tweeting a gif of the footage, he's filmed his Laptop with his phone, upright, to cut out half the screen and avoid showing Faletau putting a block on Kaino. Superb stuff.

        Look at his twitter feed, he's been called on the cropping but doubles down on his bullshit . Apparently he's some sort of journo in Ireland .

        https://mobile.twitter.com/mike_cantillon?lang=en

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        @jegga said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

        Look at his twitter feed, he's been called on the cropping but doubles down on his bullshit . Apparently he's some sort of journo in Ireland .

        Wot, journos throwing dirt in our eyes with a classic case of indignant Fake News Double-Down? I wouldn't expect anything less.

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          Can sbw & alb play 80 and reiko cover midfield if needed ?

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            Mark Reason may be the worst rugby writer of this century:

            Gatland listened to the people. He listened to the Oxfordshire Two and all the other rugby fans from around the world. Healey said that Gatland "needed the courage to see his initial decision through." Stuart Barnes called the retraction "a sign of serious weakness."

            Not a bit of it. Gatland's decision was a sign of enormous strength. If only the World War I generals had had the courage to change their mind and not send their men over the top to certain slaughter. But sometimes backing down is the hardest thing of all. Sorry, I got that wrong.

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            • TimT Tim

              Mark Reason may be the worst rugby writer of this century:

              Gatland listened to the people. He listened to the Oxfordshire Two and all the other rugby fans from around the world. Healey said that Gatland "needed the courage to see his initial decision through." Stuart Barnes called the retraction "a sign of serious weakness."

              Not a bit of it. Gatland's decision was a sign of enormous strength. If only the World War I generals had had the courage to change their mind and not send their men over the top to certain slaughter. But sometimes backing down is the hardest thing of all. Sorry, I got that wrong.

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              @Tim following on from his Dad who would be a contender for the 20th century although to be fair Reason Snr wasn't so much bad as simply bitter and twisted when it came to all things AB.

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                Mark Reason may be the worst rugby writer of this century:

                Gatland listened to the people. He listened to the Oxfordshire Two and all the other rugby fans from around the world. Healey said that Gatland "needed the courage to see his initial decision through." Stuart Barnes called the retraction "a sign of serious weakness."

                Not a bit of it. Gatland's decision was a sign of enormous strength. If only the World War I generals had had the courage to change their mind and not send their men over the top to certain slaughter. But sometimes backing down is the hardest thing of all. Sorry, I got that wrong.

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                @Tim sorry, Treason, and writer in the same sentence?

                Wonder how he & Twattue would go talking sport....

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                  @Tim following on from his Dad who would be a contender for the 20th century although to be fair Reason Snr wasn't so much bad as simply bitter and twisted when it came to all things AB.

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                  @dogmeat said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                  @Tim following on from his Dad who would be a contender for the 20th century although to be fair Reason Snr wasn't so much bad as simply bitter and twisted when it came to all things AB.

                  Brian Moore talked about Reason sr on pr once and said amongst the rugby community in England he was thought of as a shill for a couple of his cronies in the rfu and did more harm than good over the years. Not sure how true that is but it's interesting.

                  His son looks completely blazed in his profile photo on stuff which would explain a number of things.

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                  • TimT Tim

                    Mark Reason may be the worst rugby writer of this century:

                    Gatland listened to the people. He listened to the Oxfordshire Two and all the other rugby fans from around the world. Healey said that Gatland "needed the courage to see his initial decision through." Stuart Barnes called the retraction "a sign of serious weakness."

                    Not a bit of it. Gatland's decision was a sign of enormous strength. If only the World War I generals had had the courage to change their mind and not send their men over the top to certain slaughter. But sometimes backing down is the hardest thing of all. Sorry, I got that wrong.

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                    @Tim said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                    Mark Reason may be the worst rugby writer of this century:

                    Gatland listened to the people. He listened to the Oxfordshire Two and all the other rugby fans from around the world. Healey said that Gatland "needed the courage to see his initial decision through." Stuart Barnes called the retraction "a sign of serious weakness."

                    Not a bit of it. Gatland's decision was a sign of enormous strength. If only the World War I generals had had the courage to change their mind and not send their men over the top to certain slaughter. But sometimes backing down is the hardest thing of all. Sorry, I got that wrong.

                    Gareth Davies is hardly a wet behind the ears Tommy going over the top. He scored the try to beat England in the WC, and toured & played against NZ with Wales last Summer.

                    Thomas Fancis toured & played against NZ with Wales last Summer.

                    Reason is a dickhead.

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                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                      @Tim said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                      Mark Reason may be the worst rugby writer of this century:

                      Gatland listened to the people. He listened to the Oxfordshire Two and all the other rugby fans from around the world. Healey said that Gatland "needed the courage to see his initial decision through." Stuart Barnes called the retraction "a sign of serious weakness."

                      Not a bit of it. Gatland's decision was a sign of enormous strength. If only the World War I generals had had the courage to change their mind and not send their men over the top to certain slaughter. But sometimes backing down is the hardest thing of all. Sorry, I got that wrong.

                      Gareth Davies is hardly a wet behind the ears Tommy going over the top. He scored the try to beat England in the WC, and toured & played against NZ with Wales last Summer.

                      Thomas Fancis toured & played against NZ with Wales last Summer.

                      Reason is a dickhead.

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                      @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                      Reason is a dickhead.

                      You'll find no argument on here about that.

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                      • jeggaJ jegga

                        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                        @Margin_Walker said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                        @Bones

                        Nah, not really. Aware Faletau's not in this shot, but there was very little contact with him and Kaino is never going to reach the ball. No big deal, but it's on Kaino for me. Each to their own though.

                        https://twitter.com/mike_cantillon/status/879333982596468736

                        That video is absolutely hilarious. Instead of tweeting a gif of the footage, he's filmed his Laptop with his phone, upright, to cut out half the screen and avoid showing Faletau putting a block on Kaino. Superb stuff.

                        Look at his twitter feed, he's been called on the cropping but doubles down on his bullshit . Apparently he's some sort of journo in Ireland .

                        https://mobile.twitter.com/mike_cantillon?lang=en

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                        @jegga said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                        @Margin_Walker said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                        @Bones

                        Nah, not really. Aware Faletau's not in this shot, but there was very little contact with him and Kaino is never going to reach the ball. No big deal, but it's on Kaino for me. Each to their own though.

                        https://twitter.com/mike_cantillon/status/879333982596468736

                        That video is absolutely hilarious. Instead of tweeting a gif of the footage, he's filmed his Laptop with his phone, upright, to cut out half the screen and avoid showing Faletau putting a block on Kaino. Superb stuff.

                        Look at his twitter feed, he's been called on the cropping but doubles down on his bullshit . Apparently he's some sort of journo in Ireland .

                        https://mobile.twitter.com/mike_cantillon?lang=en

                        Only just caught up with this. Quite funny and the other bloke (Alex Shaw) supporting him is a twat as well. I happened on a comment by him during the U21s and commented back among a bit of a twitter 'debate'. He then told everyone they were ignorant about rugby and should stop.
                        I asked him what his credentials are to make that call and he said 'it's my profession'.
                        So now if you write a blog and get the odd article published on a slow news day you can lord your opinion over everyone else.
                        Writing absolute bullshit about rugby is a profession for Jones/ Reason/ Ratpoo and many others that actually get regular space, now two-bit bloggers want to claim the high ground as well?

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                          ABs staying at the intercontinental in Wgtn near my work and saw a few of them about. Nice to see most of the tight 5 head off to Fritz's Weiners for some food! Saw Crotty as well, didn't seem to be limping about so maybe hammy not as bad as thought!

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                            ABs staying at the intercontinental in Wgtn near my work and saw a few of them about. Nice to see most of the tight 5 head off to Fritz's Weiners for some food! Saw Crotty as well, didn't seem to be limping about so maybe hammy not as bad as thought!

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                            @Rugger-Quizzes surprise inclusion for Saturday then 🙂

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                              ABs staying at the intercontinental in Wgtn near my work and saw a few of them about. Nice to see most of the tight 5 head off to Fritz's Weiners for some food! Saw Crotty as well, didn't seem to be limping about so maybe hammy not as bad as thought!

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                              @Rugger-Quizzes said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                              ABs staying at the intercontinental in Wgtn near my work and saw a few of them about. Nice to see most of the tight 5 head off to Fritz's Weiners for some food! Saw Crotty as well, didn't seem to be limping about so maybe hammy not as bad as thought!

                              Odd, I haven't received my breakfast invite yet.

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                                ABs staying at the intercontinental in Wgtn near my work and saw a few of them about. Nice to see most of the tight 5 head off to Fritz's Weiners for some food! Saw Crotty as well, didn't seem to be limping about so maybe hammy not as bad as thought!

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                                @Rugger-Quizzes said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                                ABs staying at the intercontinental in Wgtn near my work and saw a few of them about. Nice to see most of the tight 5 head off to Fritz's Weiners for some food! Saw Crotty as well, didn't seem to be limping about so maybe hammy not as bad as thought!

                                For all the talk of 'rugby is our religion' and 'these guys are superstars in NZ', I don't think there are many places/national sports where the likes of SBW can wander unhassled from his hotel in his togs through the commuters going to work for a dip in the harbour.

                                Trying to have a quiet breakfast is a different matter though.

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                                  Some good analysis from Eddie O'Sullivan:

                                  http://www.the42.ie/the-rugby-show-eddie-o-sullivan-lions-all-blacks-3466055-Jun2017/

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                                    @dogmeat said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                                    @Tim following on from his Dad who would be a contender for the 20th century although to be fair Reason Snr wasn't so much bad as simply bitter and twisted when it came to all things AB.

                                    Brian Moore talked about Reason sr on pr once and said amongst the rugby community in England he was thought of as a shill for a couple of his cronies in the rfu and did more harm than good over the years. Not sure how true that is but it's interesting.

                                    His son looks completely blazed in his profile photo on stuff which would explain a number of things.

                                    alt text

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                                    @jegga Reason snr was a actually a pretty good rugby columnist many years back but slowly, over a few years he seemed to write more and more embittered stuff that evolved into complete bollocks by the end. I was at a sportsman lunch with the main speaker being Gordon Brown and was lucky enough to sit next to him. We chatted about how Reason snr had seemingly lost the plot and GB hinted at some occurrence that had soured rugby for Reason. He would not say anything more but had an amused smile the whole time.

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                                      Some good analysis from Eddie O'Sullivan:

                                      http://www.the42.ie/the-rugby-show-eddie-o-sullivan-lions-all-blacks-3466055-Jun2017/

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                                      @Tim said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                                      Some good analysis from Eddie O'Sullivan:

                                      http://www.the42.ie/the-rugby-show-eddie-o-sullivan-lions-all-blacks-3466055-Jun2017/

                                      More holes than a string vest

                                      'Conor Murray is the best 9 in the world' - Eddie O'Behave

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                                        In the last few minutes All Blacks facebook page posted a 1 min clip/interview of Waisake Naholo training this week now it has immediately been taken down. It looked exactly the type of video that they release when they announce the team and focus on new starters.

                                        So i'd say Naholo is starting right wing.

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                                          Which would mean Barrett stays at 10 and Dagg moves to 15.

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