All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2
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I can't believe NZers were posting at 8am this morning. Surely drinking yourself into oblivion is the only option after an AB loss?
Anyway, after a restless sleep full of nightmares some further thoughts...
First of all congrats to the Lions and their fans. It's been nearly 8 years since the ABs last lost at home, 14 in Wellington and to do it against the odds after being touched up in the first test is an incredible effort. That test was brutal as fuck, there'll be some very sore bodies today, but it was one for the ages and will go down in rugby folklore. Long live Lions tours!
The ref, I don't want this to sound like a whinge as he didn't cost the ABs the game, but as soon as Garces was announced a shockwave of nerves went through all rugby supporters. The 2nd test of the series was always going to be the most intense and full of niggle, and it was clear before the match that Garces was never going to be up to the task. He was very poor for both sides - inconsistent as fuck and straight up arrogant at times. His comminication with the rest of the reffing team was comical and showed huge incompetence. So that begs the obvious question - why was he selected for such an important match? Very frustrating as his performance will take away from what was an epic test now.
Despite that, this has been an awesome tour. Some absolutely cracking matches in the leadup to the tests, with some of the NZ teams showcasing the depth of talent we have (NZB, Blues, Canes and Landers) while the Lions showcased how clinical they can be with thier style of rugby (v NZM, Saders and Chiefs).
And now against the odds we are all off to Fortress Eden locked at 1-1! Will the heroic soldiers from Britian and Ireland have the strength to bring about the fall of Eden? Or will the noble men in black repeal yet another attack on our castle? An epic LOTR-style battle of Helm's Deep awaits us all - bring it on!!
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
First of all congrats to the Lions and their fans. It's been 14 long seasons since the ABs last lost at home, and to do it against the odds after being touched up in the first test is an incredible effort.
Great post. Being pedantic and all the ABs last home loss was in 2009.
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
First of all congrats to the Lions and their fans. It's been 14 long seasons since the ABs last lost at home, and to do it against the odds after being touched up in the first test is an incredible effort.
Great post. Being pedantic and all the ABs last home loss was in 2009.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
First of all congrats to the Lions and their fans. It's been 14 long seasons since the ABs last lost at home, and to do it against the odds after being touched up in the first test is an incredible effort.
Great post. Being pedantic and all the ABs last home loss was in 2009.
Ha! Seems I had wiped that from my memory...
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
First of all congrats to the Lions and their fans. It's been 14 long seasons since the ABs last lost at home, and to do it against the odds after being touched up in the first test is an incredible effort.
Great post. Being pedantic and all the ABs last home loss was in 2009.
Correct, the 14 years stat is probably getting mixed up with the 14 years since losing in Wellington
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@Duluth yes I heard the 14 year stat in a drunken haze last night so went with that. Need to fact check myself.
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@kev said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@Nepia almost agree but accidental doesn't matter nowadays. Contact to head with swinging arm resulting in concussion and player leaving the field. O'Brien is a wonderful player and clean as but shit happens and the rules are about cleaning up technique as much as dirty play
I actually can't see the swinging arm. Of four of us watching together last night, 2 could see the arm and 2 couldn't - we need a Green and Gold style breakdown ....
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@kev said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@Nepia almost agree but accidental doesn't matter nowadays. Contact to head with swinging arm resulting in concussion and player leaving the field. O'Brien is a wonderful player and clean as but shit happens and the rules are about cleaning up technique as much as dirty play
I actually can't see the swinging arm. Of four of us watching together last night, 2 could see the arm and 2 couldn't - we need a Green and Gold style breakdown ....
Yeah , no we don't .
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@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@kev said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@Nepia almost agree but accidental doesn't matter nowadays. Contact to head with swinging arm resulting in concussion and player leaving the field. O'Brien is a wonderful player and clean as but shit happens and the rules are about cleaning up technique as much as dirty play
I actually can't see the swinging arm. Of four of us watching together last night, 2 could see the arm and 2 couldn't - we need a Green and Gold style breakdown ....
Yeah , no we don't .
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@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@jegga You guys are no fun!
Planet rugby is just a click away bro.
@jegga said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@jegga You guys are no fun!
Planet rugby is just a click away bro.
I've already watched all the clips over there, they're too scatterbrained at the moment. Although the French have posted good videos of the incidents on Youtube. I guess they want to see how their star refs go on the tour.
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@jegga said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@jegga You guys are no fun!
Planet rugby is just a click away bro.
I've already watched all the clips over there, they're too scatterbrained at the moment. Although the French have posted good videos of the incidents on Youtube. I guess they want to see how their star refs go on the tour.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@jegga said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@jegga You guys are no fun!
Planet rugby is just a click away bro.
I've already watched all the clips over there, they're too scatterbrained at the moment. Although the French have posted good videos of the incidents on Youtube. I guess they want to see how their star refs go on the tour.
I wouldn't go over there for a while , Kid A must have an old fellow like Ray Charles elbow when he tried roller skating by now.
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Hansen needs get really angry about this, I mean it is clearly a personal attack on him, in retaliation to him getting the Herald to post the clown pic of Gats.
UK tabloid The Sun has hit back after the All Blacks' shock 24-21 loss to the Lions by depicting coach Steve Hansen as a clown.
The retort comes after the Herald caricatured Lions coach Warren Gatland as a clown following their first test defeat to the All Blacks at Eden Park last weekend.
The Sun's image shows Gatland throwing a pie into the face of a red-nosed Hansen in a clown outfit with the headline "CLOWN JEWELS".
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11884910
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@jegga said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
Not sure if anyone has even bothered to read that article, but this is interesting:
Hansen said Naholo could have returned to the field, but the All Blacks coach opted not to risk him. -
when (how long into game) did Naholo go off? Assume he failed the HIA?
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
when (how long into game) did Naholo go off? Assume he failed the HIA?
The serious point is that the [accidental] SOB forearm concussed Naholo, he had to leave the field and the AB's makeshift backline defence was rejigged again, a change which we never recovered from.
In contrast, SBW shot, whilst a clear red, made no difference to Lions.
In scenarios where either (i) Naholo unconcussed or (ii) SOB RC IMHO ABs win.
That said, in any event it won't make a difference to series result.
Expect SOB to miss third, which is not great for rugby fans. -
@jegga said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
Not sure if anyone has even bothered to read that article, but this is interesting:
Hansen said Naholo could have returned to the field, but the All Blacks coach opted not to risk him.@Stargazer that is interesting. So Naholo passed the HIA!
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About Naholo, watch the video in this article:
'He's woken up chipper' – Waisake Naholo fine after concussion scare says All Blacks boss
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I can't believe NZers were posting at 8am this morning. Surely drinking yourself into oblivion is the only option after an AB loss?
Anyway, after a restless sleep full of nightmares some further thoughts...
First of all congrats to the Lions and their fans. It's been nearly 8 years since the ABs last lost at home, 14 in Wellington and to do it against the odds after being touched up in the first test is an incredible effort. That test was brutal as fuck, there'll be some very sore bodies today, but it was one for the ages and will go down in rugby folklore. Long live Lions tours!
The ref, I don't want this to sound like a whinge as he didn't cost the ABs the game, but as soon as Garces was announced a shockwave of nerves went through all rugby supporters. The 2nd test of the series was always going to be the most intense and full of niggle, and it was clear before the match that Garces was never going to be up to the task. He was very poor for both sides - inconsistent as fuck and straight up arrogant at times. His comminication with the rest of the reffing team was comical and showed huge incompetence. So that begs the obvious question - why was he selected for such an important match? Very frustrating as his performance will take away from what was an epic test now.
Despite that, this has been an awesome tour. Some absolutely cracking matches in the leadup to the tests, with some of the NZ teams showcasing the depth of talent we have (NZB, Blues, Canes and Landers) while the Lions showcased how clinical they can be with thier style of rugby (v NZM, Saders and Chiefs).
And now against the odds we are all off to Fortress Eden locked at 1-1! Will the heroic soldiers from Britian and Ireland have the strength to bring about the fall of Eden? Or will the noble men in black repeal yet another attack on our castle? An epic LOTR-style battle of Helm's Deep awaits us all - bring it on!!
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
I can't believe NZers were posting at 8am this morning. Surely drinking yourself into oblivion is the only option after an AB loss?
How can you sleep when there's bitterness, misery, if only's, and sourness to wallow in?
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@MN5 fake news, ref didnt actually give it to him!
