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  • canefanC canefan

    If a new stadium is used for concerts and rugby/league/football IMHO it makes more sense than EP which will never be allowed to have lots of concerts, and Mt Smart which is a nice shaped ground with no limit on concerts, but in a bad location

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    @canefan said in Eden Park:

    which will never be allowed to have lots of concerts

    Part of the reason they've been allowed concerts recently was the changes to the eastern stand. The larger screen also added a structure decrease the noise leakage

    Stage one of the new four stage plan is to build larger eastern and western stands. This will significantly change the amount of sound leaking out

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    • dogmeatD dogmeat

      @Auckman where is EP difficult to get to from?

      I’ve been to countless sell outs and either drive and walk for 20 minutes or go to a local (to me) bar grab a feed and a few drinks and jump on one of an endless stream of free buses that take me stray to the ground

      There’s plenty wrong with EP but imo the access issues are massively over stated

      Twickenham. There’s an asshole of a place to get to. Or Wembley for that matter

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      @dogmeat North Shore / Pakuranga but anywhere where a car is required. Parking is a big hassle and if coming from those areas on public transport, well forget about it.

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        One thing I’ll say about that waterfront “sunken” stadium proposal is that these steps leading into the harbour are gold. It would be a great lunch spot. CBD workers would be swarming all over this public space every day. Also, a great place to host waka ama/sailing regattas and triathlons. The crowds would be great.

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        • AuckmanA Auckman

          @dogmeat North Shore / Pakuranga but anywhere where a car is required. Parking is a big hassle and if coming from those areas on public transport, well forget about it.

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          @Auckman said in Eden Park:

          @dogmeat North Shore / Pakuranga but anywhere where a car is required. Parking is a big hassle and if coming from those areas on public transport, well forget about it.

          Have you ever been to a match there?? Never had a problem parking near Eden Park when driving from Tauranga. Had plenty of problems when going to Vector Arena or Stanley St though.

          Amazing to see below sea level plans with our supposed tsunami and sea rise issues....

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            @Auckman said in Eden Park:

            @dogmeat North Shore / Pakuranga but anywhere where a car is required. Parking is a big hassle and if coming from those areas on public transport, well forget about it.

            Have you ever been to a match there?? Never had a problem parking near Eden Park when driving from Tauranga. Had plenty of problems when going to Vector Arena or Stanley St though.

            Amazing to see below sea level plans with our supposed tsunami and sea rise issues....

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            @ARHS - Plenty in the past 20 years. Always a big walk from some side street at least 2km from the ground unless you get there hours early in one of those school parking lots. The longest walk was 5km away to St Lukes where the charter buses were parked. Hence why I switched to taking the train but it was easier as I was near a rail station at those times.

            Not sure if you realise this but most of downtown Auckland is reclaimed from the sea. They’ve been doing it since the 19th century. Reclaiming more land for a stadium isn’t a big deal in my humble opinion.

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              Try Morningside or the Kingsland Avenues or top of Dominion Rd depending on which gate your entry is.

              Open question from a longtime greenie: Is the planned sunken stadium fully enclosed? If so how will the turf be managed? If not then how do you deal with flooding from torrential rainfall?

              I am against the idea in principle because I think Auckland and Tauranga need to be cleaned up water-wise and less built near the shoreline. I can only assume that by being at street level there will be huge amounts of rubbish and runoff going into the harbour. Eden Park conversely has great drainage which serves the nearby area well.

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              • AuckmanA Auckman

                @dogmeat North Shore / Pakuranga but anywhere where a car is required. Parking is a big hassle and if coming from those areas on public transport, well forget about it.

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                @Auckman I live on the Shore and as I posted it is bloody easy.

                Pakuranga should be easier now the Busway has opened - bus to Panmure train to Kingsland....

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                  The one thing we do not need on Auckland's waterfront is a stadium. They are effectively a 13 story blank wall. There's a reason they are always pictured lit up at night. It's because during the day even the best of them look industrial and uninspiring. I'd rather have the container terminal - at least there's something to watch

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                  • dogmeatD dogmeat

                    The one thing we do not need on Auckland's waterfront is a stadium. They are effectively a 13 story blank wall. There's a reason they are always pictured lit up at night. It's because during the day even the best of them look industrial and uninspiring. I'd rather have the container terminal - at least there's something to watch

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                    @dogmeat said in Eden Park:

                    The one thing we do not need on Auckland's waterfront is a stadium. They are effectively a 13 story blank wall. There's a reason they are always pictured lit up at night. It's because during the day even the best of them look industrial and uninspiring. I'd rather have the container terminal - at least there's something to watch

                    The promoted one is sunk into the harbour, but with a floating roof - to improve the aesthetics. Quite an engineering feat really, to allow for good drainage of the turf without seawater blow-back. Big helicopter needed to drop it into place too I imagine.

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                      I'd like a stadium at the port, and a port at Eden Park - with a canal dug to it.

                      And I want no pumps at the new sunken stadium, and no dredging of my new canal, because I wish it therefore it is so. (I intend contracting my team of unicorns for these 2 pieces of never-ending extra work, at a lucrative rate).

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                      • AuckmanA Auckman

                        @dogmeat North Shore / Pakuranga but anywhere where a car is required. Parking is a big hassle and if coming from those areas on public transport, well forget about it.

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                        @Auckman said in Eden Park:

                        @dogmeat North Shore / Pakuranga but anywhere where a car is required. Parking is a big hassle and if coming from those areas on public transport, well forget about it.

                        No way. Eden Park is a piece of piss to get to from the shore. Plenty of free buses or via the trains in town.

                        We occasionally drive too but mainly for blues games when the crowd is smaller. No problems parking within a 10min walk.

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                        • AuckmanA Auckman

                          @ARHS - Plenty in the past 20 years. Always a big walk from some side street at least 2km from the ground unless you get there hours early in one of those school parking lots. The longest walk was 5km away to St Lukes where the charter buses were parked. Hence why I switched to taking the train but it was easier as I was near a rail station at those times.

                          Not sure if you realise this but most of downtown Auckland is reclaimed from the sea. They’ve been doing it since the 19th century. Reclaiming more land for a stadium isn’t a big deal in my humble opinion.

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                          @Auckman said in Eden Park:

                          @ARHS - Plenty in the past 20 years. Always a big walk from some side street at least 2km from the ground unless you get there hours early in one of those school parking lots. The longest walk was 5km away to St Lukes where the charter buses were parked. Hence why I switched to taking the train but it was easier as I was near a rail station at those times.

                          Not sure if you realise this but most of downtown Auckland is reclaimed from the sea. They’ve been doing it since the 19th century. Reclaiming more land for a stadium isn’t a big deal in my humble opinion.

                          5km?...is that a little exaggeration? st lukes is only 1.5km from eden park, less if you go down a side street

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                          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                            @Auckman said in Eden Park:

                            @ARHS - Plenty in the past 20 years. Always a big walk from some side street at least 2km from the ground unless you get there hours early in one of those school parking lots. The longest walk was 5km away to St Lukes where the charter buses were parked. Hence why I switched to taking the train but it was easier as I was near a rail station at those times.

                            Not sure if you realise this but most of downtown Auckland is reclaimed from the sea. They’ve been doing it since the 19th century. Reclaiming more land for a stadium isn’t a big deal in my humble opinion.

                            5km?...is that a little exaggeration? st lukes is only 1.5km from eden park, less if you go down a side street

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                            @Kiwiwomble said in Eden Park:

                            @Auckman said in Eden Park:

                            @ARHS - Plenty in the past 20 years. Always a big walk from some side street at least 2km from the ground unless you get there hours early in one of those school parking lots. The longest walk was 5km away to St Lukes where the charter buses were parked. Hence why I switched to taking the train but it was easier as I was near a rail station at those times.

                            Not sure if you realise this but most of downtown Auckland is reclaimed from the sea. They’ve been doing it since the 19th century. Reclaiming more land for a stadium isn’t a big deal in my humble opinion.

                            5km?...is that a little exaggeration? st lukes is only 1.5km from eden park, less if you go down a side street

                            Yup. Or another example, it’s a 3.4km walk from the Civic in Queen St

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                            • DuluthD Duluth

                              @Kiwiwomble said in Eden Park:

                              @Auckman said in Eden Park:

                              @ARHS - Plenty in the past 20 years. Always a big walk from some side street at least 2km from the ground unless you get there hours early in one of those school parking lots. The longest walk was 5km away to St Lukes where the charter buses were parked. Hence why I switched to taking the train but it was easier as I was near a rail station at those times.

                              Not sure if you realise this but most of downtown Auckland is reclaimed from the sea. They’ve been doing it since the 19th century. Reclaiming more land for a stadium isn’t a big deal in my humble opinion.

                              5km?...is that a little exaggeration? st lukes is only 1.5km from eden park, less if you go down a side street

                              Yup. Or another example, it’s a 3.4km walk from the Civic in Queen St

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                              @Duluth said in Eden Park:

                              @Kiwiwomble said in Eden Park:

                              @Auckman said in Eden Park:

                              @ARHS - Plenty in the past 20 years. Always a big walk from some side street at least 2km from the ground unless you get there hours early in one of those school parking lots. The longest walk was 5km away to St Lukes where the charter buses were parked. Hence why I switched to taking the train but it was easier as I was near a rail station at those times.

                              Not sure if you realise this but most of downtown Auckland is reclaimed from the sea. They’ve been doing it since the 19th century. Reclaiming more land for a stadium isn’t a big deal in my humble opinion.

                              5km?...is that a little exaggeration? st lukes is only 1.5km from eden park, less if you go down a side street

                              Yup. Or another example, it’s a 3.4km walk from the Civic in Queen St

                              Jesus, that's nothing.

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                                You just need to know where to park with all the closed roads for any event at Eden Park. Usually it is a 10 min walk from where I park. Mt Smart is worse for parking despite being in an industrial area.

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  You just need to know where to park with all the closed roads for any event at Eden Park. Usually it is a 10 min walk from where I park. Mt Smart is worse for parking despite being in an industrial area.

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                                  @Bovidae said in Eden Park:

                                  You just need to know where to park with all the closed roads for any event at Eden Park. Usually it is a 10 min walk from where I park. Mt Smart is worse for parking despite being in an industrial area.

                                  Same, I get the same park for AB or Super games and it's an easy walk, did it when my kids were little and they either walked or were on my shoulders. Didn't kill me, so must have been easy enough.

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                                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                    @Auckman said in Eden Park:

                                    @ARHS - Plenty in the past 20 years. Always a big walk from some side street at least 2km from the ground unless you get there hours early in one of those school parking lots. The longest walk was 5km away to St Lukes where the charter buses were parked. Hence why I switched to taking the train but it was easier as I was near a rail station at those times.

                                    Not sure if you realise this but most of downtown Auckland is reclaimed from the sea. They’ve been doing it since the 19th century. Reclaiming more land for a stadium isn’t a big deal in my humble opinion.

                                    5km?...is that a little exaggeration? st lukes is only 1.5km from eden park, less if you go down a side street

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                                    @Kiwiwomble said in Eden Park:

                                    @Auckman said in Eden Park:

                                    @ARHS - Plenty in the past 20 years. Always a big walk from some side street at least 2km from the ground unless you get there hours early in one of those school parking lots. The longest walk was 5km away to St Lukes where the charter buses were parked. Hence why I switched to taking the train but it was easier as I was near a rail station at those times.

                                    Not sure if you realise this but most of downtown Auckland is reclaimed from the sea. They’ve been doing it since the 19th century. Reclaiming more land for a stadium isn’t a big deal in my humble opinion.

                                    5km?...is that a little exaggeration? st lukes is only 1.5km from eden park, less if you go down a side street

                                    hah just a little eh! It would barely be 5km from Eden Park to the potential site of the new waterfront stadium

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                                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                      @Auckman said in Eden Park:

                                      @ARHS - Plenty in the past 20 years. Always a big walk from some side street at least 2km from the ground unless you get there hours early in one of those school parking lots. The longest walk was 5km away to St Lukes where the charter buses were parked. Hence why I switched to taking the train but it was easier as I was near a rail station at those times.

                                      Not sure if you realise this but most of downtown Auckland is reclaimed from the sea. They’ve been doing it since the 19th century. Reclaiming more land for a stadium isn’t a big deal in my humble opinion.

                                      5km?...is that a little exaggeration? st lukes is only 1.5km from eden park, less if you go down a side street

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                                      @Kiwiwomble
                                      Well it felt like 5km with the side streets we were walking through. Went through the Eden rugby club way. It wasn’t a 10min walk. It was more like a 20min walk. All the charter buses were parked there.

                                      Catching the train was much easier. 2min walk.

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                                      • JKJ JK

                                        @Auckman said in Eden Park:

                                        @dogmeat North Shore / Pakuranga but anywhere where a car is required. Parking is a big hassle and if coming from those areas on public transport, well forget about it.

                                        No way. Eden Park is a piece of piss to get to from the shore. Plenty of free buses or via the trains in town.

                                        We occasionally drive too but mainly for blues games when the crowd is smaller. No problems parking within a 10min walk.

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                                        @JK - fair enough. When I lived in the Shore years ago, the buses were terrible. I’m told they still are recently with all the public transport disruptions this year.

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                                        • A ARHS

                                          @dogmeat said in Eden Park:

                                          The one thing we do not need on Auckland's waterfront is a stadium. They are effectively a 13 story blank wall. There's a reason they are always pictured lit up at night. It's because during the day even the best of them look industrial and uninspiring. I'd rather have the container terminal - at least there's something to watch

                                          The promoted one is sunk into the harbour, but with a floating roof - to improve the aesthetics. Quite an engineering feat really, to allow for good drainage of the turf without seawater blow-back. Big helicopter needed to drop it into place too I imagine.

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                                          @ARHS - most of downtown Auckland is reclaimed from the sea. Not sure what the problem is. According to you Britomart station (ie: that underground station right next to the harbour) should’ve been flooded by now. Well, it hasn’t flooded. Not even with the recent floods.

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