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Lions v Crusaders - Super Rugby Final

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    @Stargazer said in Lions v Crusaders - Super Rugby Final:

    I have more of an issue with vdW and Jonker,

    Bonkers Jonker. Really? For a "super" final?

    Is the reward for being a shit ref a comfy chair and making decisions while watching tele? I would qualify (as did Ayoub).
    I'm going to apply.

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      who the fuck physically lines up for tickets?

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        who the fuck physically lines up for tickets?

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        @mariner4life said in Lions v Crusaders - Super Rugby Final:

        who the fuck physically lines up for tickets?

        The online ticketing agent Computicket.co.za gets given the bulk of the tickets to sell, but a few are also held by the stadium. The the guys queuing up most likely had already checked online and seen it was sold out. Its always just been this way in S.A for some reason.

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          It's not altitude so much as attitude. If the Saders turn up in the right frame of mind,they will win.

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          • boobooB booboo

            Jack is a reasonable ref.

            But just for appearances sake surely you go with Gardner who at the very least is as capable and has the added bonus of not being from either of the countries involved.

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            @booboo said in Lions v Crusaders - Super Rugby Final:

            Jack is a reasonable ref.

            But just for appearances sake surely you go with Gardner who at the very least is as capable and has the added bonus of not being from either of the countries involved.

            The appointments smack of SANZAAR being arrogant or incompetent or both

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              That's great, the only non south African ref is a hometown ref..

              RiP Crusaders

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                That's great, the only non south African ref is a hometown ref..

                RiP Crusaders

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                @mimic said in Lions v Crusaders - Super Rugby Final:

                That's great, the only non south African ref is a hometown ref..

                RiP Crusaders

                Someone's done a deal there

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                  This is good for the Crusaders. Peyper is not a hometown ref IMO, and following last week if anything he will overcompensate to prove he isn't one.

                  Also Peyper grew up in Bloemfontein and went to Grey College. There is every chance he grew up with as much loyalty to the Lions as a Crusaders fan would for the Blues. He isn't going to blow his international career over a relatively unimportant fixture like this.

                  Probably should have had a neutral or NZ TMO from an optics stand point.

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                    I like Peyper as a referee, I think he's excellent and anything but partisan. He's prone to the odd crap decision, but that's just the game of rugby being incredibly hard to referee. Gardner would have made more sense, but Peyper is still the choice I expected and think is an OK choice. I don't get the hate for Marius vdW, I think he's been very good this year (and the last, I believe).

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                      • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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                        Yeah I like how Peyper manages a game, probably in the top 3 going around IMO. I agree with SANZAR that it's merit based because he's an excellent ref. Congrats to him.

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                          Jack O'Piper is a good ref and communicates well. I'm sure he won't be consciously biased. And all refs tend to favour the home team. I'd have preferred Gardner, who I rate a notch above Glen (Ireland's favourite ref).

                          The bigger issue is the TMO, and, in particular, who controls the replays which are chosen. IMHO that is where the most heinous bias is shown. I'm recalling Messam tackle, which Burger did not complain about real time, but TV replays forced ref to come back to after the event.

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                            What pisses me off is where was this merit based ref selection during the Lions series? Instead of having a guy like Nigel Owens in charge we get those french fucks because they are "neutral".

                            I understand it's SANZAAR vs WR but some consistency wouldn't hurt.

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                              SuperSports analysis on lineout and mauls

                              https://streamable.com/04dxq

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                                Unchanged Lions squad for the final:

                                1 Jacques van Rooyen
                                2 Malcolm Marx
                                3 Ruan Dreyer
                                4 Andries Ferreira
                                5 Franco Mostert
                                6 Jaco Kriel ©
                                7 Albertus “Kwagga” Smith
                                8 Ruan Ackermann
                                9 Ross Cronje
                                10 Elton Jantjies
                                11 Courtnall Skosan
                                12 Harold Vorster
                                13 Lionel Mapoe
                                14 Ruan Combrinck
                                15 Andries Coetzee

                                Reserves
                                16 Akker vd Merwe
                                17 Corne Fourie
                                18 Johannes Jonker
                                19 Lourens Erasmus
                                20 Cyle Brink
                                21 Faf de Klerk
                                22 Rohan Janse van Re
                                23 Sylvian Mahuza

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                                  SuperSports analysis on lineout and mauls

                                  https://streamable.com/04dxq

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                                  @antipodean

                                  Am i missing something here, these guys keep on talking about sacking is tackling 1 player. But the maul laws is about tackling the ball carrier, whether the maul is set or not if the ball player is tackled its within the law

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                                    Razor has also named an unchanged squad.

                                    This is the Crusaders team for the final:

                                    1 Joe Moody
                                    2 Codie Taylor
                                    3 Owen Franks
                                    4 Scott Barrett
                                    5 Sam Whitelock (C)
                                    6 Jordan Taufua
                                    7 Matt Todd (VC)
                                    8 Kieran Read
                                    9 Bryn Hall
                                    10 Richie Mo'unga
                                    11 Seta Tamanivalu
                                    12 Ryan Crotty (VC)
                                    13 Jack Goodhue
                                    14 Israel Dagg
                                    15 David Havili

                                    RESERVES
                                    16 Ben Funnell
                                    17 Wyatt Crockett
                                    18 Michael Alaalatoa
                                    19 Luke Romano
                                    20 Pete Samu
                                    21 Mitchell Drummond
                                    22 Mitchell Hunt
                                    23 George Bridge

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                                      @antipodean

                                      Am i missing something here, these guys keep on talking about sacking is tackling 1 player. But the maul laws is about tackling the ball carrier, whether the maul is set or not if the ball player is tackled its within the law

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                                      @Rebound

                                      And the laws of the game does not clarify collapsing of the maul at all

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                                        Razor's presser with the team naming:

                                        http://www.facebook.com/crusadersrugby/videos/10155683738292147/

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          Razor's presser with the team naming:

                                          http://www.facebook.com/crusadersrugby/videos/10155683738292147/

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                                          @Stargazer it's amazing to think that he's coached a side to the top of the comp. He comes across as a lanky laid back surfer who's coaching a social pub side, co-sponsored by the local hemp store and KFC.

                                          Seems a really good coach though, and the pros love him just as much as the schoolboys.

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