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  • canefanC canefan

    Alex Smith traded from the KC Chiefs to the Washington Redskins. I don't know much about their team but I hope they have a strong running back because Smith needs significant help on offense

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    @canefan the rumoured length is for a 4 year contract extension for Alex Smith (currently has 1 year left) and the rumoured trade price is a 3rd round pick and a player. Seems pricey and quite a lengthy commitment for a QB at Smith's stage in his career.

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      Just saw this on twitter. Wow, I had Alex Smith going to Buffalo (Buffalo has picks and cap space, plus a good running game). Washington is a bad place for him to be going.

      So the teams out of the 2018 QB hunt are San Francisco (Jimmy G), New Orleans (Brees) and Washington (Smith).

      Potential QBs to hit the market or available via trade: Case Keenum, Eli Manning, Tyrod Taylor, Blake Bortles, Ryan Tannehill, Nick Foles, Teddy Bridgewater, Sam Bradford.

      Teams that are looking for serious upgrades, or short term help while they develop a drafted QB, are Cleveland, Buffalo, Denver, Minnesota, NY Giants, Arizona and potentially Jacksonville and Miami.

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      • SneakdefreakS Sneakdefreak

        Just saw this on twitter. Wow, I had Alex Smith going to Buffalo (Buffalo has picks and cap space, plus a good running game). Washington is a bad place for him to be going.

        So the teams out of the 2018 QB hunt are San Francisco (Jimmy G), New Orleans (Brees) and Washington (Smith).

        Potential QBs to hit the market or available via trade: Case Keenum, Eli Manning, Tyrod Taylor, Blake Bortles, Ryan Tannehill, Nick Foles, Teddy Bridgewater, Sam Bradford.

        Teams that are looking for serious upgrades, or short term help while they develop a drafted QB, are Cleveland, Buffalo, Denver, Minnesota, NY Giants, Arizona and potentially Jacksonville and Miami.

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        @sneakdefreak said in NFL 2017:

        Just saw this on twitter. Wow, I had Alex Smith going to Buffalo (Buffalo has picks and cap space, plus a good running game). Washington is a bad place for him to be going.

        So the teams out of the 2018 QB hunt are San Francisco (Jimmy G), New Orleans (Brees) and Washington (Smith).

        Potential QBs to hit the market or available via trade: Case Keenum, Eli Manning, Tyrod Taylor, Blake Bortles, Ryan Tannehill, Nick Foles, Teddy Bridgewater, Sam Bradford.

        Teams that are looking for serious upgrades, or short term help while they develop a drafted QB, are Cleveland, Buffalo, Denver, Minnesota, NY Giants, Arizona and potentially Jacksonville and Miami.

        Smith can't carry a team, and WSH is a bad team. Maybe this was the best deal he could get, maybe he didn't have much choice. Buffalo could have done with a competent game manager like Smith. Maybe they'll be poking around for Keenum but Smith has runs on the board

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          Smith will be laughing to the bank with a 70 million guarantee.

          Kirk Cousins will be available now though. Looking at his recent interview he wants a team with a chance of win, good receivers and a good line. (not asking for much then...). Jags might be the best fit on those criteria. Will he take less money to be at a better team?

          I can see the Jets, Browns and Bills getting into a bidding war for him. Jets and Browns have early draft picks though so might be more inclined to go that route than throw what will be a massive deal at Cousins

          Redskins have basically dumped him though, and surely that will make others nervous. They have the best view in the league and thought Smith was better value. What do they know?

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            Smith will be laughing to the bank with a 70 million guarantee.

            Kirk Cousins will be available now though. Looking at his recent interview he wants a team with a chance of win, good receivers and a good line. (not asking for much then...). Jags might be the best fit on those criteria. Will he take less money to be at a better team?

            I can see the Jets, Browns and Bills getting into a bidding war for him. Jets and Browns have early draft picks though so might be more inclined to go that route than throw what will be a massive deal at Cousins

            Redskins have basically dumped him though, and surely that will make others nervous. They have the best view in the league and thought Smith was better value. What do they know?

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            @cyclops said in NFL 2017:

            Smith will be laughing to the bank with a 70 million guarantee.

            Kirk Cousins will be available now though. Looking at his recent interview he wants a team with a chance of win, good receivers and a good line. (not asking for much then...). Jags might be the best fit on those criteria. Will he take less money to be at a better team?

            I can see the Jets, Browns and Bills getting into a bidding war for him. Jets and Browns have early draft picks though so might be more inclined to go that route than throw what will be a massive deal at Cousins

            Redskins have basically dumped him though, and surely that will make others nervous. They have the best view in the league and thought Smith was better value. What do they know?

            WSH are a dumpster fire, I'm not sure they know anything. If Smith has 70M guaranteed good on him for taking that deal. But I remember what he was like in his early years in a rudderless 49ers team; I know he has improved greatly, but it's gonna suck playing for a shit team again. All he can do is bite his lip and remember

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            • CyclopsC Cyclops

              Smith will be laughing to the bank with a 70 million guarantee.

              Kirk Cousins will be available now though. Looking at his recent interview he wants a team with a chance of win, good receivers and a good line. (not asking for much then...). Jags might be the best fit on those criteria. Will he take less money to be at a better team?

              I can see the Jets, Browns and Bills getting into a bidding war for him. Jets and Browns have early draft picks though so might be more inclined to go that route than throw what will be a massive deal at Cousins

              Redskins have basically dumped him though, and surely that will make others nervous. They have the best view in the league and thought Smith was better value. What do they know?

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              @cyclops I'm picking Cousins will sign with Jacksonville and challenge Bortles for the starting position. He's already made a ton of money thanks to Washington franchising him for the past few seasons.
              NY Jets will draft a QB but keep Josh McCown as their starter for next season.
              NY Giants will make a play for Case Keenum since his offensive co-ordinator is now head coach.
              Minnesota have a strange crush on Teddy Bridgewater so he will probably be their starter next season.
              Denver will get Eli Manning because of the good ol' boy club but it could work.
              Arizona will probably end up with a Sam Bradford or Tyrod Taylor as their short-term answer.
              I can see Miami selling the bank and acquiring Nick Foles only to see him fail.
              Cleveland will draft and play some poor kid who will end up being a bust through no fault of his own.

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              • SneakdefreakS Sneakdefreak

                @cyclops I'm picking Cousins will sign with Jacksonville and challenge Bortles for the starting position. He's already made a ton of money thanks to Washington franchising him for the past few seasons.
                NY Jets will draft a QB but keep Josh McCown as their starter for next season.
                NY Giants will make a play for Case Keenum since his offensive co-ordinator is now head coach.
                Minnesota have a strange crush on Teddy Bridgewater so he will probably be their starter next season.
                Denver will get Eli Manning because of the good ol' boy club but it could work.
                Arizona will probably end up with a Sam Bradford or Tyrod Taylor as their short-term answer.
                I can see Miami selling the bank and acquiring Nick Foles only to see him fail.
                Cleveland will draft and play some poor kid who will end up being a bust through no fault of his own.

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                @sneakdefreak what about KC?

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                  @sneakdefreak what about KC?

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                  @canefan Their young QB Patrick Mahomes will be starter.

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                    There are no guarantees in the NFL (look at Carolina) but JAX could be scary good with a half decent QB. A top FA wanting to go to JAX? Unheard of a couple of years ago

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                      Update: In Alex Smith trade, Chiefs will receive third-round pick And CB Kendall Fuller.

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                        Update: In Alex Smith trade, Chiefs will receive third-round pick And CB Kendall Fuller.

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                        @kiwimurph said in NFL 2017:

                        Update: In Alex Smith trade, Chiefs will receive third-round pick And CB Kendall Fuller.

                        It's a dump off. Other teams would have offered more but the Chiefs probably wanted Smith out of the AFC.

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                        • SneakdefreakS Sneakdefreak

                          @kiwimurph said in NFL 2017:

                          Update: In Alex Smith trade, Chiefs will receive third-round pick And CB Kendall Fuller.

                          It's a dump off. Other teams would have offered more but the Chiefs probably wanted Smith out of the AFC.

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                          @sneakdefreak Fuller is claiming on twitter he isn't the one being traded but multiple sources are confirming he is player being traded. Redskins players are tweeting out their anger. This is crazy.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            @sneakdefreak Fuller is claiming on twitter he isn't the one being traded but multiple sources are confirming he is player being traded. Redskins players are tweeting out their anger. This is crazy.

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                            @kiwimurph said in NFL 2017:

                            @sneakdefreak Fuller is claiming on twitter he isn't the one being traded but multiple sources are confirming he is player being traded. Redskins players are tweeting out their anger. This is crazy.

                            Appears Washington didn't inform him or his agent.

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                              Is Tom Brady gay with his Dad and son?

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                                Brady wins MVP (3rd in his career)
                                Last time the MVP won the Superbowl was back in 99 iirc.. Kurt Warner I think.. Matty Ice almost did it last year..

                                Eagles have a huge shot here.. I would go even far as to call them favourites..
                                I wonder what the odds are? I wouldn't mind putting a lazy 100$ on them considering some people see the Pats as favourites because of Brady..

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                                  Brady wins MVP (3rd in his career)
                                  Last time the MVP won the Superbowl was back in 99 iirc.. Kurt Warner I think.. Matty Ice almost did it last year..

                                  Eagles have a huge shot here.. I would go even far as to call them favourites..
                                  I wonder what the odds are? I wouldn't mind putting a lazy 100$ on them considering some people see the Pats as favourites because of Brady..

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                                  @mimic said in NFL 2017:

                                  Brady wins MVP (3rd in his career)
                                  Last time the MVP won the Superbowl was back in 99 iirc.. Kurt Warner I think.. Matty Ice almost did it last year..

                                  Eagles have a huge shot here.. I would go even far as to call them favourites..
                                  I wonder what the odds are? I wouldn't mind putting a lazy 100$ on them considering some people see the Pats as favourites because of Brady..

                                  I'm thinking the same - if the Eagles defensive line can get to Brady throughout the game, especially in the fourth quarter, it will be all over.

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                                    @mimic said in NFL 2017:

                                    Brady wins MVP (3rd in his career)
                                    Last time the MVP won the Superbowl was back in 99 iirc.. Kurt Warner I think.. Matty Ice almost did it last year..

                                    Eagles have a huge shot here.. I would go even far as to call them favourites..
                                    I wonder what the odds are? I wouldn't mind putting a lazy 100$ on them considering some people see the Pats as favourites because of Brady..

                                    I'm thinking the same - if the Eagles defensive line can get to Brady throughout the game, especially in the fourth quarter, it will be all over.

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                                    @sneakdefreak said in NFL 2017:

                                    @mimic said in NFL 2017:

                                    Brady wins MVP (3rd in his career)
                                    Last time the MVP won the Superbowl was back in 99 iirc.. Kurt Warner I think.. Matty Ice almost did it last year..

                                    Eagles have a huge shot here.. I would go even far as to call them favourites..
                                    I wonder what the odds are? I wouldn't mind putting a lazy 100$ on them considering some people see the Pats as favourites because of Brady..

                                    I'm thinking the same - if the Eagles defensive line can get to Brady throughout the game, especially in the fourth quarter, it will be all over.

                                    Yeah, but the Pats have this nasty habit of just ... winning.

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                                      @sneakdefreak said in NFL 2017:

                                      @mimic said in NFL 2017:

                                      Brady wins MVP (3rd in his career)
                                      Last time the MVP won the Superbowl was back in 99 iirc.. Kurt Warner I think.. Matty Ice almost did it last year..

                                      Eagles have a huge shot here.. I would go even far as to call them favourites..
                                      I wonder what the odds are? I wouldn't mind putting a lazy 100$ on them considering some people see the Pats as favourites because of Brady..

                                      I'm thinking the same - if the Eagles defensive line can get to Brady throughout the game, especially in the fourth quarter, it will be all over.

                                      Yeah, but the Pats have this nasty habit of just ... winning.

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                                      @nzzp said in NFL 2017:

                                      @sneakdefreak said in NFL 2017:

                                      @mimic said in NFL 2017:

                                      Brady wins MVP (3rd in his career)
                                      Last time the MVP won the Superbowl was back in 99 iirc.. Kurt Warner I think.. Matty Ice almost did it last year..

                                      Eagles have a huge shot here.. I would go even far as to call them favourites..
                                      I wonder what the odds are? I wouldn't mind putting a lazy 100$ on them considering some people see the Pats as favourites because of Brady..

                                      I'm thinking the same - if the Eagles defensive line can get to Brady throughout the game, especially in the fourth quarter, it will be all over.

                                      Yeah, but the Pats have this nasty habit of just ... winning.

                                      That is the problem. The moment you say no NFL team has ever done that, the Pats go and do it.

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                                        I've just put a bit on the Eagles at $2.70 but I'm not confident of that paying off.

                                        Fuck Brady

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                                          The Pats really have faced an all star QB lineup this playoffs....Mariota, Bortles, Foles....

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