Counties Manukau v Auckland
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@Stargazer Prop is a worry.
@Tim Renata and Prattley aren't too bad at this level. Anything below that and we're in massive shit there.
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@Tim said in Counties Manukau v Auckland:
The NZ TAB has Counties as favourites:
1 Counties 1.60
2 Auckland 2.35
3 Draw 21.00Wow. When I saw that AK team I thought 'way too many professionals and Super players in there for us'
Very surprised CM ranked favourite
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@KiwiMurph said in Counties Manukau v Auckland:
@Tim Good point. Hopefully only that.
That's a good Counties backline.
A very untried one though. Will need to gel on defence against that AK midfield.
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@Tim said in Counties Manukau v Auckland:
The NZ TAB has Counties as favourites:
1 Counties 1.60
2 Auckland 2.35
3 Draw 21.00Wow. When I saw that AK team I thought 'way too many professionals and Super players in there for us'
Very surprised CM ranked favourite
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This Auckland squad is made of very young players. Is it the youngest squad of the competition ?
@cgrant said in Counties Manukau v Auckland:
This Auckland squad is made of very young players. Is it the youngest squad of the competition ?
The majority of the squads are very young. I was reading this morning that the average age of the Waikato squad is 23, and that is with Sweeney, Christie and Guildford.
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That's a better line-up than any we threw up last year. Hopefully no more criminally slow starts like we had right through last season. I also hope we get more bench production this year.
Be interesting to see how we manage the midfielders this year.
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@KiwiMurph Trainor was really good against the Reds. Hope he continues that counter attacking form.
@Tim said in Counties Manukau v Auckland:
@KiwiMurph Trainor was really good against the Reds. Hope he continues that counter attacking form.
For the most part, he was good for Waikato last year too. I'm a bit worried his great line running won't get rewarded with this midfield combo though. Last year he would often run some really good lines, but would often never get the pass - if he got those passes, he was either gone or would've made a long break.
He makes a number of features on this video.
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That's a better line-up than any we threw up last year. Hopefully no more criminally slow starts like we had right through last season. I also hope we get more bench production this year.
Be interesting to see how we manage the midfielders this year.
@Dice said in Counties Manukau v Auckland:
Be interesting to see how we manage the midfielders this year.
What would you go for?
Personally I would leave Aso on the wing. Of all the Auckland midfielders he is the one who makes more errors in defence.
TJ should start. He will be the long term Auckland and Blues 12, the sooner he is up to speed the better
Moala, yes he's a ball hog on attack but I would start him at 13. Nonu showed its possible to develop a passing game/decision making mid career.
Fekitoa - he's leaving so no point trying to fix his weaknesses. He makes a very useful impact sub/injury cover though
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@SammyC said in Counties Manukau v Auckland:
Where's harry Plummer?
Did he make the squad?
No, he'll be in the under 19s this year.
The conversation about him in the other thread was actually about whether or not he should be selected this season or next.
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@SammyC said in Counties Manukau v Auckland:
Where's harry Plummer?
Did he make the squad?
No, he'll be in the under 19s this year.
The conversation about him in the other thread was actually about whether or not he should be selected this season or next.
@Duluth said in Counties Manukau v Auckland:
@SammyC said in Counties Manukau v Auckland:
Where's harry Plummer?
Did he make the squad?
No, he'll be in the under 19s this year.
The conversation about him in the other thread was actually about whether or not he should be selected this season or next.
Didn't realise he was that young, probably a good thing to let him develop in the u19s
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@Duluth said in Counties Manukau v Auckland:
@SammyC said in Counties Manukau v Auckland:
Where's harry Plummer?
Did he make the squad?
No, he'll be in the under 19s this year.
The conversation about him in the other thread was actually about whether or not he should be selected this season or next.
Didn't realise he was that young, probably a good thing to let him develop in the u19s
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If George and Fekitoa could get their passing going they could be a pretty devastating combo. Big if I know.
@pakman said in Counties Manukau v Auckland:
If George and Fekitoa could get their passing going they could be a pretty devastating combo. Big if I know.
My concern is them simply running straight. If I was the AK coach that would be my first instruction. One of them to straighten and the other to run a line for a pop.
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@Duluth said in Counties Manukau v Auckland:
@Dice said in Counties Manukau v Auckland:
Be interesting to see how we manage the midfielders this year.
What would you go for?
Personally I would leave Aso on the wing. Of all the Auckland midfielders he is the one who makes more errors in defence.
TJ should start. He will be the long term Auckland and Blues 12, the sooner he is up to speed the better
Moala, yes he's a ball hog on attack but I would start him at 13. Nonu showed its possible to develop a passing game/decision making mid career.
Fekitoa - he's leaving so no point trying to fix his weaknesses. He makes a very useful impact sub/injury cover though
I'd leave Aso on the wing too. He's actually played some of his best rugby for us when he's been on the wing.
I've definitely got Faiane at 12, but at 13, I'm a bit on the fence between Moala and Fekitoa, mostly because Fekitoa is off.
If we're simply going with who matches up better with Faiane, I think Fekitoa might be the better choice. I think his style of play and play speed goes better with Faiane's style of play, whereas Moala plays a bit slower and doesn't really run any lines, which doesn't really take advantage of Faiane's distribution skills.
Both have their warts, but both should be better than most centres they come up against at this level, so I'm fine with either.
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@Duluth said in Counties Manukau v Auckland:
@Dice said in Counties Manukau v Auckland:
Be interesting to see how we manage the midfielders this year.
What would you go for?
Personally I would leave Aso on the wing. Of all the Auckland midfielders he is the one who makes more errors in defence.
TJ should start. He will be the long term Auckland and Blues 12, the sooner he is up to speed the better
Moala, yes he's a ball hog on attack but I would start him at 13. Nonu showed its possible to develop a passing game/decision making mid career.
Fekitoa - he's leaving so no point trying to fix his weaknesses. He makes a very useful impact sub/injury cover though
I'd leave Aso on the wing too. He's actually played some of his best rugby for us when he's been on the wing.
I've definitely got Faiane at 12, but at 13, I'm a bit on the fence between Moala and Fekitoa, mostly because Fekitoa is off.
If we're simply going with who matches up better with Faiane, I think Fekitoa might be the better choice. I think his style of play and play speed goes better with Faiane's style of play, whereas Moala plays a bit slower and doesn't really run any lines, which doesn't really take advantage of Faiane's distribution skills.
Both have their warts, but both should be better than most centres they come up against at this level, so I'm fine with either.
@Dice said in Counties Manukau v Auckland:
@Duluth said in Counties Manukau v Auckland:
@Dice said in Counties Manukau v Auckland:
Be interesting to see how we manage the midfielders this year.
What would you go for?
Personally I would leave Aso on the wing. Of all the Auckland midfielders he is the one who makes more errors in defence.
TJ should start. He will be the long term Auckland and Blues 12, the sooner he is up to speed the better
Moala, yes he's a ball hog on attack but I would start him at 13. Nonu showed its possible to develop a passing game/decision making mid career.
Fekitoa - he's leaving so no point trying to fix his weaknesses. He makes a very useful impact sub/injury cover though
I'd leave Aso on the wing too. He's actually played some of his best rugby for us when he's been on the wing.
I've definitely got Faiane at 12, but at 13, I'm a bit on the fence between Moala and Fekitoa, mostly because Fekitoa is off.
If we're simply going with who matches up better with Faiane, I think Fekitoa might be the better choice. I think his style of play and play speed goes better with Faiane's style of play, whereas Moala plays a bit slower and doesn't really run any lines, which doesn't really take advantage of Faiane's distribution skills.
Both have their warts, but both should be better than most centres they come up against at this level, so I'm fine with either.
Personally I'd have a TJ/Fekitoa midfield. Don't really care that Fekitoa is off, we are in win now mode. I could be swayed if we put in another talented centre and give him a go, but I wouldn't put Moala there.
I'd have Moala on the wing tbh. But, I'd like to see Clarke given a go, so Moala can come off the bench for impact with an added bonus that he can cover the midfield in case TJ breaks down again.I know people refer to Nonu when talking about Moala, but people forget that Nonu worked with Umaga and Smith. I'm sure working with them helped him develop his game.
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When George runs straight at 12 he really commits the defence. So if he could offload Fekitoa's pace Woolf be pretty devastating.
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When George runs straight at 12 he really commits the defence. So if he could offload Fekitoa's pace Woolf be pretty devastating.
@pakman said in Counties Manukau v Auckland:
When George runs straight at 12 he really commits the defence. So if he could offload Fekitoa's pace Woolf be pretty devastating.
I was intrigued as to why a regular on a rugby forum would have auto-correct defaulting to "Woolf"... and did an AskJeeves to figure out if there's something I'm missing.
woolf.bike - now looks like a product I'm considering buying.
