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Wellington v Magpies

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  • WingerW Offline
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    The HB players need to buy Nutbrown a beer with his 13-4 penalty count for them.

    Savea looks like he's spent time in the gym rather than at the hairdressers. It reflecting in his performance too.

    HB when they get their injured players back will be a much better side. And hopefully wellington never have Nutbrown reffing another game

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      There were a few calls that went against HB as well that annoyed me so it just wasn't all one way traffic. A lot of the penalties against Wellington looked justified so even though there was a total of thirteen penalties how many of them are you disputing as unwarranted?

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        The HB players need to buy Nutbrown a beer with his 13-4 penalty count for them.

        Savea looks like he's spent time in the gym rather than at the hairdressers. It reflecting in his performance too.

        HB when they get their injured players back will be a much better side. And hopefully wellington never have Nutbrown reffing another game

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        @Winger Are you kidding? Wellington deserved all those penalties & Nutbrown got it so wrong when he went to the TMO for the first disallowed try from the Magpies. Devery definitely scored a try there! Wellington has nothing to complain about the ref.

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          And even the Selesele no try looked like he dropped it straight down and not in the required forward direction need to be ruled a knock on. I'm not disputing it though as it is ruled that way almost every time it happens. Similarly the Barracuda fluffed high ball he spilled, it came off his chest with no hands involved but those have also always been ruled knock ons so can't grumble about that.

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            The Magpies seemed to be getting a bit more confidence in the second half. Like they had flipped a switch.

            McNicol seemed to be getting better & better. Buckman is definitely the man who should be at fullback. Defensively, he's much stronger than Falcon and his experience and better reading of the game is showing. Falcon still has lots to learn and I'd prefer him to do that at 12 (when West is back). That would give him a bit more self confidence, too.

            One thing I also noticed is that Jonah Lowe - although not nearly getting enough ball - had a very good game. Defensively strong; should definitely play centre once Emerson/TJ Vaega are fit again! If only our midfielders had passed the ball to him a bit more instead of trying to break the opposition defence without much success! He has also noticeably bulked up quite a bit!

            I'm not sold on Devery yet; Tangaere was playing much better and is physically significantly stronger.

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              Josh Eden-Whaitiri also had his moments and looked ok in the lineouts (admittedly most of his wins were uncontested) and the odd good run as well.

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                NZH match stats:

                Magpies:
                100 tackles made
                34 missed tackles

                The worst tacklers:
                Hayden Hann: 10 tackles made, 5 missed
                Tiaan Falcon: 9 tackles made, 4 missed
                Nick Palmer: 12 tackles made, 4 missed
                Sam McNicol: 1 tackles made, 3 missed
                Brad Weber: 5 tackles made, 3 missed

                Surprised Jacob Devery only made 1 tackle (and missed 2).

                Josh Eden-Whaitiri had a good shift, having to play 58 minutes after Cridge had to come off early. Made 9 tackles, missed none. 5 line-out wins

                Most metres run: Jonah Lowe (78)
                Most carries: Nick Palmer (12)
                Most defenders beaten: Sam McNicol (4)
                Most clean breaks: Sam McNicol (3)
                Try assists: Richard Buckman (2)
                Most turnovers won: Lucas Goodin (3)

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                  @Winger Are you kidding? Wellington deserved all those penalties & Nutbrown got it so wrong when he went to the TMO for the first disallowed try from the Magpies. Devery definitely scored a try there! Wellington has nothing to complain about the ref.

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                  @Stargazer said in Wellington v Magpies:

                  @Winger Are you kidding? Wellington deserved all those penalties & Nutbrown got it so wrong when he went to the TMO for the first disallowed try from the Magpies. Devery definitely scored a try there! Wellington has nothing to complain about the ref.

                  Nutbrown was only reffing one side = a 13-4 penalty count. Head high tackle. Missed. Player on the ground knocking the ball out of the hands. missed Holding onto the ball missed. There are some refs that I hate reffing wellington matches and Nutbrown can go into thsi category

                  and the try was held up. I just accept refs are often poor but as long as it evens out fair enough. This game didn't

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                    @Stargazer said in Wellington v Magpies:

                    @Winger Are you kidding? Wellington deserved all those penalties & Nutbrown got it so wrong when he went to the TMO for the first disallowed try from the Magpies. Devery definitely scored a try there! Wellington has nothing to complain about the ref.

                    Nutbrown was only reffing one side = a 13-4 penalty count. Head high tackle. Missed. Player on the ground knocking the ball out of the hands. missed Holding onto the ball missed. There are some refs that I hate reffing wellington matches and Nutbrown can go into thsi category

                    and the try was held up. I just accept refs are often poor but as long as it evens out fair enough. This game didn't

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                    @Winger Nonsense. A 13-4 penalty count doesn't necessarily mean the officiating was one-sided. In this game, Wellington just offended much more often than the Bay. It wasn't clear and obvious that the ball was held-up. It looked like it was grounded and the ref asked the TMO the wrong question.

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                      @Winger Nonsense. A 13-4 penalty count doesn't necessarily mean the officiating was one-sided. In this game, Wellington just offended much more often than the Bay. It wasn't clear and obvious that the ball was held-up. It looked like it was grounded and the ref asked the TMO the wrong question.

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                      @Stargazer said in Wellington v Magpies:

                      @Winger Nonsense. A 13-4 penalty count doesn't necessarily mean the officiating was one-sided. In this game, Wellington just offended much more often than the Bay. It wasn't clear and obvious that the ball was held-up. It looked like it was grounded and the ref asked the TMO the wrong question.

                      It was a poor reffing performance. Some of the Wellington penalties were silly (the third for example. even Smith commented on it. And Im not a scrum expert but the first scrum penalty I will ask my scrum expert mate about). And Nutbrown missed 4 against HB that I can remember. including a tip tackle that should have been a yellow card. Where the HB players lifted the wellingtons props (Fahamakioa) leg so he was driven head first into the turf. Right in front of Nutbrown that just happened to ignore it

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                        Sadly, I think Nutbrown is destined to be the new Glen Jackson. The poster boy for players turned refs and will be promoted along despite quality issues.

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                          A link to my photos if you're keen -
                          http://www.chainsawphotos.co.nz/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=568
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                            Great shots. Apart from the ones of Wellington dotting down 🙂

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                              More photos:

                              http://www.facebook.com/4corena/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1539059689488026

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