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    It seemed like we were defending for about 70% of the game. We did defend well considering how much ball the Canes had, especially in our 22. Two of the Canes' tries came against the run of play.

    Our skills let us down big time. We look like we could use another pre-season hit-out to iron some things out.

    Scrums were pretty even in the 1st half, but in the 2nd half, we clearly had the better scrum. Manu vs Fidow was a bit of a mismatch.

    One interesting thing was Duffie and Nanai looked to have switched positions in the 2nd 20 of the 1st half. I know some on here prefer Duffie at fullback, and it looks like Tana is having a look at that option.

    Julian and Rieko were marking each other in the 1st half, and Julian was a big no show. Rieko looked every bit world class, while Julian looked like he'll struggle to start for the Canes this season.

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    • DiceD Dice

      It seemed like we were defending for about 70% of the game. We did defend well considering how much ball the Canes had, especially in our 22. Two of the Canes' tries came against the run of play.

      Our skills let us down big time. We look like we could use another pre-season hit-out to iron some things out.

      Scrums were pretty even in the 1st half, but in the 2nd half, we clearly had the better scrum. Manu vs Fidow was a bit of a mismatch.

      One interesting thing was Duffie and Nanai looked to have switched positions in the 2nd 20 of the 1st half. I know some on here prefer Duffie at fullback, and it looks like Tana is having a look at that option.

      Julian and Rieko were marking each other in the 1st half, and Julian was a big no show. Rieko looked every bit world class, while Julian looked like he'll struggle to start for the Canes this season.

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      @dice said in Blues 2018:

      It seemed like we were defending for about 70% of the game. We did defend well considering how much ball the Canes had, especially in our 22. Two of the Canes' tries came against the run of play.

      Our skills let us down big time. We look like we could use another pre-season hit-out to iron some things out.

      Scrums were pretty even in the 1st half, but in the 2nd half, we clearly had the better scrum. Manu vs Fidow was a bit of a mismatch.

      One interesting thing was Duffie and Nanai looked to have switched positions in the 2nd 20 of the 1st half. I know some on here prefer Duffie at fullback, and it looks like Tana is having a look at that option.

      Julian and Rieko were marking each other in the 1st half, and Julian was a big no show. Rieko looked every bit world class, while Julian looked like he'll struggle to start for the Canes this season.

      Totally agree with your post.

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        @tim said in Blues 2018:

        @stargazer Lowe scored a nice intercept early in the second half and looked sharp.

        Moron Hamish Bidwell recently bagged him in a preseason report. From his track record that means he'll have a great season.

        Fuck that Bidwell is a tosser.

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        @kiwimurph said in Blues 2018:

        @tim said in Blues 2018:

        @stargazer Lowe scored a nice intercept early in the second half and looked sharp.

        Moron Hamish Bidwell recently bagged him in a preseason report. From his track record that means he'll have a great season.

        Fuck that Bidwell is a tosser.

        Bidwell, how is he even a sports reporter? He should stick to the classifieds.

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          @kiwimurph said in Blues 2018:

          @tim said in Blues 2018:

          @stargazer Lowe scored a nice intercept early in the second half and looked sharp.

          Moron Hamish Bidwell recently bagged him in a preseason report. From his track record that means he'll have a great season.

          Fuck that Bidwell is a tosser.

          Bidwell, how is he even a sports reporter? He should stick to the classifieds.

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          @northlandallday dalton popoali’i out for 6 weeks

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            @duluth said in Post your Super Rugby predictions:

            The Blues:
            If they don't make the playoffs Umaga should be sacked.

            Who do you think the Blues could get for next year? Tom Coventry?

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            • TimT Tim

              @duluth said in Post your Super Rugby predictions:

              The Blues:
              If they don't make the playoffs Umaga should be sacked.

              Who do you think the Blues could get for next year? Tom Coventry?

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              @tim

              Wayne Pivac. I've said it every year for 16 years.. one day it might happen

              Otherwise Coventry would be good

              But I expect with the change to the playoffs Umaga's team will make the finals and he'll be safe

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                @tim

                Wayne Pivac. I've said it every year for 16 years.. one day it might happen

                Otherwise Coventry would be good

                But I expect with the change to the playoffs Umaga's team will make the finals and he'll be safe

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                @duluth said in Blues 2018:

                Wayne Pivac. I've said it every year for 16 years.. one day it might happen

                Could they get him? He's probably on good money at Scarletts, and is a contender for the Wales job.

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                • TimT Tim

                  @duluth said in Blues 2018:

                  Wayne Pivac. I've said it every year for 16 years.. one day it might happen

                  Could they get him? He's probably on good money at Scarletts, and is a contender for the Wales job.

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                  @tim

                  Extremely unlikely

                  Also the fact he has never been near the Blues job suggests he hasn't played the politics side of things well

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                    Tana isn't going to be sacked unless the Blues have an absolute shocking season. His big offseason signing (Otere Black) is out for the year and now they have even more injuries.

                    As long as the Blues are there or thereabouts in playoff contention (as they have been the last two seasons) he will be safe.

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      Tana isn't going to be sacked unless the Blues have an absolute shocking season. His big offseason signing (Otere Black) is out for the year and now they have even more injuries.

                      As long as the Blues are there or thereabouts in playoff contention (as they have been the last two seasons) he will be safe.

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                      @kiwimurph

                      Thats probably right. I did say 'should'

                      If after three years you can't make the top 8 of a 15 team comp he should be sacked.

                      But he probably wouldn't be held accountable

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                        Or another way of putting it: If after three seasons the NZ conference results are 5th, 5th, 5th he should be sacked

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                          @kiwimurph

                          Thats probably right. I did say 'should'

                          If after three years you can't make the top 8 of a 15 team comp he should be sacked.

                          But he probably wouldn't be held accountable

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                          @duluth said in Blues 2018:

                          @kiwimurph

                          Thats probably right. I did say 'should'

                          If after three years you can't make the top 8 of a 15 team comp he should be sacked.

                          But he probably wouldn't be held accountable

                          I see your point but I think that's a bit misleading. If the Blues were in the Aussie conference they would have won it the last two years.

                          While there are now 5 'wildcard' playoff spots available - the NZ derbies this year have increased from 6 to 8 so 4th place in the NZ conference may not be good enough for a playoff spot like it has been the last two years.

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                            hasn't he recently extended his contract?

                            @KiwiMurph I don't really buy the if the Blues were in the Aussie conference line...they aren't, they should do much better with available player resources.

                            That said, I think there is more to the Blues woes than coaching.

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                            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                              hasn't he recently extended his contract?

                              @KiwiMurph I don't really buy the if the Blues were in the Aussie conference line...they aren't, they should do much better with available player resources.

                              That said, I think there is more to the Blues woes than coaching.

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                              @taniwharugby said in Blues 2018:

                              hasn't he recently extended his contract?

                              There was an articles a few weeks ago saying they should announce an extension now. Probably written by a reporter who used to say 'judge him after three seasons'

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                hasn't he recently extended his contract?

                                @KiwiMurph I don't really buy the if the Blues were in the Aussie conference line...they aren't, they should do much better with available player resources.

                                That said, I think there is more to the Blues woes than coaching.

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                                @taniwharugby said in Blues 2018:

                                hasn't he recently extended his contract?

                                @KiwiMurph I don't really buy the if the Blues were in the Aussie conference line...they aren't, they should do much better with available player resources.

                                That said, I think there is more to the Blues woes than coaching.

                                My point is that saying they cant make an 8 team playoffs in a 15 team comp is misleading as all 15 teams dont exactly have an even chance of making the playoffs.

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                                  @taniwharugby said in Blues 2018:

                                  hasn't he recently extended his contract?

                                  @KiwiMurph I don't really buy the if the Blues were in the Aussie conference line...they aren't, they should do much better with available player resources.

                                  That said, I think there is more to the Blues woes than coaching.

                                  My point is that saying they cant make an 8 team playoffs in a 15 team comp is misleading as all 15 teams dont exactly have an even chance of making the playoffs.

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                                  @kiwimurph pretty much a 5 team comp to make the finals.

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    hasn't he recently extended his contract?

                                    @KiwiMurph I don't really buy the if the Blues were in the Aussie conference line...they aren't, they should do much better with available player resources.

                                    That said, I think there is more to the Blues woes than coaching.

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                                    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2018:

                                    hasn't he recently extended his contract?

                                    @KiwiMurph I don't really buy the if the Blues were in the Aussie conference line...they aren't, they should do much better with available player resources.

                                    That said, I think there is more to the Blues woes than coaching.

                                    I think the player resources thing is a bit overdone. The Blues have had the poorest squad in NZ for a number of years now. Yes, there are lots of player in the Auckland region due to numbers, but there is more talent in other franchises and has been for a while now.

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                                      @taniwharugby said in Blues 2018:

                                      hasn't he recently extended his contract?

                                      @KiwiMurph I don't really buy the if the Blues were in the Aussie conference line...they aren't, they should do much better with available player resources.

                                      That said, I think there is more to the Blues woes than coaching.

                                      I think the player resources thing is a bit overdone. The Blues have had the poorest squad in NZ for a number of years now. Yes, there are lots of player in the Auckland region due to numbers, but there is more talent in other franchises and has been for a while now.

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                                      @nepia at what age? Player numbers in Auckland, NH, Northland and probably include Counties to a point as well, are huge...but at some point something goes wrong ,although I don't think this is directly linked to the issues for Auckland Rugby (League & Union)

                                      League seems to do so much better with recruiting 'kids' than rugby (Warriors aside...) was talking to a lady at work, her 17yr old son has played rugby with a kid right through to form 5 (Year 11?) but last year his mate picked up a contract/scholarship with an Aussie league team, when he visited over Xmas, she said he was huge, bulked up massively...which obviously is a concern in itself for a 17/18 year old...

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                                        @taniwharugby said in Blues 2018:

                                        hasn't he recently extended his contract?

                                        @KiwiMurph I don't really buy the if the Blues were in the Aussie conference line...they aren't, they should do much better with available player resources.

                                        That said, I think there is more to the Blues woes than coaching.

                                        I think the player resources thing is a bit overdone. The Blues have had the poorest squad in NZ for a number of years now. Yes, there are lots of player in the Auckland region due to numbers, but there is more talent in other franchises and has been for a while now.

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                                        @nepia said in Blues 2018:

                                        @taniwharugby said in Blues 2018:

                                        hasn't he recently extended his contract?

                                        @KiwiMurph I don't really buy the if the Blues were in the Aussie conference line...they aren't, they should do much better with available player resources.

                                        That said, I think there is more to the Blues woes than coaching.

                                        I think the player resources thing is a bit overdone. The Blues have had the poorest squad in NZ for a number of years now. Yes, there are lots of player in the Auckland region due to numbers, but there is more talent in other franchises and has been for a while now.

                                        I agree. Although quite a bit of that talent at other franchises comes from the Auckland region too.

                                        It depends on position too - the Blues/Auckland region produce a heap of quality outside backs - first fives not so much - the Canterbury region is the opposite.

                                        What will be interesting is how successful the Blues region is at keeping the current young crop of talent that has come through the successful Auckland U19 team from last year (Clarke, Plummer, Sotutu, Telea, Waimana Riedlinger-Kapa etc).

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          @nepia at what age? Player numbers in Auckland, NH, Northland and probably include Counties to a point as well, are huge...but at some point something goes wrong ,although I don't think this is directly linked to the issues for Auckland Rugby (League & Union)

                                          League seems to do so much better with recruiting 'kids' than rugby (Warriors aside...) was talking to a lady at work, her 17yr old son has played rugby with a kid right through to form 5 (Year 11?) but last year his mate picked up a contract/scholarship with an Aussie league team, when he visited over Xmas, she said he was huge, bulked up massively...which obviously is a concern in itself for a 17/18 year old...

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                                          @taniwharugby The age thing is kind of my point, yes there must be lots of young talent floating around Auckland but it doesn't come through to senior level, so hard to point that particular finger at the current (whoever it is) coach of the Blues.

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