Hurricanes 2018
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Is he thinking about high performance/age grade opportunities? or a wider group of apprentice-type coaches?
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@chris-b said in Hurricanes 2018:
@pukunui First I'd heard of it as well, but this article from March provides a little bit more backstory, that Boyd wasn't completely happy to go now.
Seems slightly odd that they would shunt Boyd out the door to accommodate Holland - has he been promoted anyway?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12009965
Thanks, that paints quite a different picture than the other shitty article that was looking to stir up controversy. Sounds like Boyd would have preferred to stay a little longer but wanted what was best for the Canes long term so signed offshore to allow them to lock in the long term coaching team.
Also sounds like his problem with the NZRU is as a result of lack of pathways within nz for senior coaches who aren't part of the ABs.@pukunui That seems like a very strange article by Bidwell.
Not sure whether it's one of those weird articles that people like Mark Reason write that take the blackest interpretation of everything to paint a conspiracy that doesn't exist, or whether there's a bit more to the story that we haven't heard.
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" lack of pathways within nz for senior coaches who aren't part of the ABs." which is ridiculous, what does Boyd want, shall we invent more teams above SR level? We've anyway got the Maori ABs, so maybe Pakeha ABs or NZ welsh ABs! Or maybe a twenty person coaching panel for the ABs? Imo just a grumble because of timing (as much as anything) he missed out on an ABs position, same as players behind legends and players wanting to play the lions. There are only so many posts in a small country like NZ, but heaps of coaches, thus NZ coaches everywhere around the world
@machpants said in Hurricanes 2018:
" lack of pathways within nz for senior coaches who aren't part of the ABs." which is ridiculous, what does Boyd want, shall we invent more teams above SR level? We've anyway got the Maori ABs, so maybe Pakeha ABs or NZ welsh ABs! Or maybe a twenty person coaching panel for the ABs? Imo just a grumble because of timing (as much as anything) he missed out on an ABs position, same as players behind legends and players wanting to play the lions. There are only so many posts in a small country like NZ, but heaps of coaches, thus NZ coaches everywhere around the world
From that second article i think he is referring to mentoring roles for younger coaches. Given the number of ex player coaches we have seen fall short over the past 10 years that sounds like a really good idea. Whether there is the money there to pay for this is another matter.
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@machpants said in Hurricanes 2018:
" lack of pathways within nz for senior coaches who aren't part of the ABs." which is ridiculous, what does Boyd want, shall we invent more teams above SR level? We've anyway got the Maori ABs, so maybe Pakeha ABs or NZ welsh ABs! Or maybe a twenty person coaching panel for the ABs? Imo just a grumble because of timing (as much as anything) he missed out on an ABs position, same as players behind legends and players wanting to play the lions. There are only so many posts in a small country like NZ, but heaps of coaches, thus NZ coaches everywhere around the world
From that second article i think he is referring to mentoring roles for younger coaches. Given the number of ex player coaches we have seen fall short over the past 10 years that sounds like a really good idea. Whether there is the money there to pay for this is another matter.
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@pukunui thing is, it's Boyd. He's hardly a long in the tooth proven performer at the highest levels. What makes him think if there were mentoring roles, he should be a prime candidate?
@bones said in Hurricanes 2018:
@pukunui thing is, it's Boyd. He's hardly a long in the tooth proven performer at the highest levels. What makes him think if there were mentoring roles, he should be a prime candidate?
Im not suggesting he should be it, just think it might actually be a good idea given there have been a few cases of new coaches getting super rugby jobs before they are ready, a mentor may have helped some of those guys.
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Maybe I should put this into the 'things that annoy you .." thread.
But the use of "season-ending" or "out for the season" in NZ rugby journalism, often means just the Super Season.
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@bones said in Hurricanes 2018:
@pukunui thing is, it's Boyd. He's hardly a long in the tooth proven performer at the highest levels. What makes him think if there were mentoring roles, he should be a prime candidate?
Im not suggesting he should be it, just think it might actually be a good idea given there have been a few cases of new coaches getting super rugby jobs before they are ready, a mentor may have helped some of those guys.
@pukunui said in Hurricanes 2018:
@bones said in Hurricanes 2018:
@pukunui thing is, it's Boyd. He's hardly a long in the tooth proven performer at the highest levels. What makes him think if there were mentoring roles, he should be a prime candidate?
Im not suggesting he should be it, just think it might actually be a good idea given there have been a few cases of new coaches getting super rugby jobs before they are ready, a mentor may have helped some of those guys.
cough Tana cough Hammetteur
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The Hurricanes squad to face the Chiefs in Hawera:
15 Chase Tiatia
14 Julian Savea
13 Wes Goosen
12 Peter Umaga-Jensen
11 Jonah Lowe
10 Jackson Garden-Bachop
9 Finlay Christie
8 Gareth Evans
7 Sam Henwood
6 Reed Prinsep (c)
5 Sam Lousi
4 James Blackwell
3 Marcel Renata
2 James O'Reilly
1 Fraser ArmstrongReserves
16 Nathan Vella
17 Chris Eves
18 Pouri Rakete-Stones
19 Michael Fatialofa
20 Isaia Walker-Leawere
21 Murray Douglas
22 Du'Plessis Kirifi
23 Jamie Booth
24 Ihaia West
25 Ben LamHURRICANES SQUAD NAMED TO FACE THE CHIEFS
A host of players will get their opportunity to show they are ready for a return to Investec Super Rugby action when the Hurricanes travel north to face the Chiefs in Hawera on Thursday. While a large number of Hurricanes players are involved in test matches during the June international break, head coach Chris Boyd has still managed to name a strong squad for the practice match which will be hosted by the Chiefs. Loose forward Reed Prinsep has been named to lead the 25-man squad in what will be the only hit-out ahead of the side's next Super Rugby match against the Brumbies in Canberra on Saturday, June 30. Prinsep will have a number of regular starters with him in the run-on side, including Sam Lousi, Gareth Evans and Julian Savea while there is plenty of depth on a bench which features leading try-scorer Ben Lam along with Chris Eves, Michael Fatialofa and Ihaia West. Boyd expected the Hurricanes to get plenty of positives out of the match as the squad prepares to enter the business end of the season with three round robin matches remaining against the Brumbies (away), Blues (home) and Chiefs (away) before the play-offs. -
The Hurricanes squad to face the Chiefs in Hawera:
15 Chase Tiatia
14 Julian Savea
13 Wes Goosen
12 Peter Umaga-Jensen
11 Jonah Lowe
10 Jackson Garden-Bachop
9 Finlay Christie
8 Gareth Evans
7 Sam Henwood
6 Reed Prinsep (c)
5 Sam Lousi
4 James Blackwell
3 Marcel Renata
2 James O'Reilly
1 Fraser ArmstrongReserves
16 Nathan Vella
17 Chris Eves
18 Pouri Rakete-Stones
19 Michael Fatialofa
20 Isaia Walker-Leawere
21 Murray Douglas
22 Du'Plessis Kirifi
23 Jamie Booth
24 Ihaia West
25 Ben LamHURRICANES SQUAD NAMED TO FACE THE CHIEFS
A host of players will get their opportunity to show they are ready for a return to Investec Super Rugby action when the Hurricanes travel north to face the Chiefs in Hawera on Thursday. While a large number of Hurricanes players are involved in test matches during the June international break, head coach Chris Boyd has still managed to name a strong squad for the practice match which will be hosted by the Chiefs. Loose forward Reed Prinsep has been named to lead the 25-man squad in what will be the only hit-out ahead of the side's next Super Rugby match against the Brumbies in Canberra on Saturday, June 30. Prinsep will have a number of regular starters with him in the run-on side, including Sam Lousi, Gareth Evans and Julian Savea while there is plenty of depth on a bench which features leading try-scorer Ben Lam along with Chris Eves, Michael Fatialofa and Ihaia West. Boyd expected the Hurricanes to get plenty of positives out of the match as the squad prepares to enter the business end of the season with three round robin matches remaining against the Brumbies (away), Blues (home) and Chiefs (away) before the play-offs.
