Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV
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Actually, before I read the rest of the thread here is my 2c.
We'll take the win.
Even though there was only one First XV player in tge starting XV I expect an All Blacks' team skills to be a hell of a lot sharper than that. Passing accuracy was abominable. Destroyed a lot of momentum and they compounded errors too often. A poor pass slightly behind a player compounded by trying to force the ball to the original spaces under pressure.
We will not be able to rely on test match opposition forgetting how to catch themselves so we can score 21 quick points.
Nigel missed a fair amount. Not his best game.
Did that kick that Mo'unga kept in cross the line of touch?
Regardless missed touch from penalties is inexcusable (twice!).
Good to come back like we did.
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@booboo I thought MOungas knee was on the line anyway...
@taniwharugby said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:
@booboo I thought MOungas knee was on the line anyway...
Didn't really get a good look at that did we?
Seemed like it was at one stage huh? Not sure if he managed to get it off the line before he caught it.
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Actually, before I read the rest of the thread here is my 2c.
We'll take the win.
Even though there was only one First XV player in tge starting XV I expect an All Blacks' team skills to be a hell of a lot sharper than that. Passing accuracy was abominable. Destroyed a lot of momentum and they compounded errors too often. A poor pass slightly behind a player compounded by trying to force the ball to the original spaces under pressure.
We will not be able to rely on test match opposition forgetting how to catch themselves so we can score 21 quick points.
Nigel missed a fair amount. Not his best game.
Did that kick that Mo'unga kept in cross the line of touch?
Regardless missed touch from penalties is inexcusable (twice!).
Good to come back like we did.
@booboo said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:
Nigel missed a fair amount. Not his best game.
I think he was missing stuff on purpose TBF, but, if the reffing team had let the push on Savea go I would have given up on the game. You want a free flowing game, but if you're going to ignore the laws completely then no one should bother.
I think my hunt for the Hungus Masaga replacement has ended (and with apologies to @Higgins) come on down Hungus Fifita. Damn man, you had two chances to pass that would have put the player's in under the post! Although, the greatest hungus of all in sport is still Solomone Kata of Tonga and the Warriors (boo).
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@booboo said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:
Nigel missed a fair amount. Not his best game.
I think he was missing stuff on purpose TBF, but, if the reffing team had let the push on Savea go I would have given up on the game. You want a free flowing game, but if you're going to ignore the laws completely then no one should bother.
I think my hunt for the Hungus Masaga replacement has ended (and with apologies to @Higgins) come on down Hungus Fifita. Damn man, you had two chances to pass that would have put the player's in under the post! Although, the greatest hungus of all in sport is still Solomone Kata of Tonga and the Warriors (boo).
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Watching the second half,
Laumape deserves some more chances with the top side, with the best guys around him. Certainly we look better attacking-wise comparing him vs SBW. Not sure how good/bad his D was (nothing obviously shocking so thats a bonus)Ardie went to 8 for Kaino.
Naholo showed good recovery to chase down the try that was disallowed, should've got a yellow card for stupidly taking out the BaaBaa 11 in the air (65min) mostly he showed good awareness for where he was in relation to high balls for the rest of the game.
Mostly we stopped doing dumb shit in the second half, thus not giving the ball away so much.
Sopoaga trys hard, needs more time to get anywhere near putting the pressure on Barrett for the 10.
Kwagga Smith was real-good for BaaBaas. I wouldn't mind him in the AB's based on that game.
Overall, not that bad, the bulk of that side will be better for the run when they come up against the French - was really a Junior AB's team wasn't it?
You'd hope the "top side" aren't too ring rusty for the French test.
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Fun game to watch.
Was impressed by Laumape. Thought he was the standout AB.
Thought Seta completely outplayed The Bus - selectors made the right (and obvious) call.
Both number 8s Kaino and Whitelock were anonymous. This could be the end for Kaino.
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That was a good bit of fun. Well done Baabaas, they gave it a good crack and scored some great tries - awesome to see from a scratch team.
Owens let plenty go, as expected, which would have been a bit frustrating in a test but it didn't faze me today - all in the spirit of keeping the game nice and open.
Luatua is absolutely awesome, right in the prime of his career. Sucks he's not eligible because he is some player now.
For the ABs, we were very loose in the first half as expected and it didn't pay off, giving up intercepts that led to tries. 2nd half we brought Cane on who helped tidy up the ruck and we played a lot more tight and direct, ensuring the win. All good. Wouldn't read too much into that performance.
Laumape had a strong game too, good to see.
Anyway, I really enjoyed the match, long live the Baabaas!
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Fun game to watch.
Was impressed by Laumape. Thought he was the standout AB.
Thought Seta completely outplayed The Bus - selectors made the right (and obvious) call.
Both number 8s Kaino and Whitelock were anonymous. This could be the end for Kaino.
@kiwimurph said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:
Fun game to watch.
Was impressed by Laumape. Thought he was the standout AB.
Thought Seta completely outplayed The Bus - selectors made the right (and obvious) call.
Both number 8s Kaino and Whitelock were anonymous. This could be the end for Kaino.
If Luatua stayed with the AB's - theres your starting #6 and Kieran Read cover straight away. Big loss. Charles Piatau level loss.
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That was a good bit of fun. Well done Baabaas, they gave it a good crack and scored some great tries - awesome to see from a scratch team.
Owens let plenty go, as expected, which would have been a bit frustrating in a test but it didn't faze me today - all in the spirit of keeping the game nice and open.
Luatua is absolutely awesome, right in the prime of his career. Sucks he's not eligible because he is some player now.
For the ABs, we were very loose in the first half as expected and it didn't pay off, giving up intercepts that led to tries. 2nd half we brought Cane on who helped tidy up the ruck and we played a lot more tight and direct, ensuring the win. All good. Wouldn't read too much into that performance.
Laumape had a strong game too, good to see.
Anyway, I really enjoyed the match, long live the Baabaas!
@no-quarter said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:
For the ABs, we were very loose in the first half as expected and it didn't pay off, giving up intercepts that led to tries. 2nd half we brought Cane on who helped tidy up the ruck and we played a lot more tigt and direct, ensuring the win. All good. Wouldn't read too much into that performance.
And also TJ Perenara got benched. I like this guy (for the Hurricanes) Gilbert Enoka needs to do some mental work with him for him to succeed with the AB's
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Saw the game this morning - I agree with @KiwiMurph, Laumape was great, made lots of good decisions and took his chance. He's knocking on the door to run with the top 15.
Fifita should be shot for fucking up that try - illustrated perfectly by Luatua who looked for people in a better situation than him, and as a result they scored.
Naholo was probably our best player in the first half, which is a bit worrying, although I though both locks got through plenty of work. I thought Harris was poor, and Hames was a bit of not much around the field. Kaino was kind of anonymous, but I noticed him making a few tackles. We looked much better when Cane came on.
Mounga took his chance well, Bucky made a lot of nice touches, and Kwagga was, I think, deservedly MOTM.
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@rocky-rockbottom said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:
Kaino parked out on the wing while the forwards are failing to secure breakdown ball? Maybe it was tecticul...
Babas jaunty, assured and flamboyant til they ran out of puff
AB's wonky and ponderous til babas ran out of puff.ffs.
some of those guys should be sitting in the stands for the rest of the tour.
It was carnival rugby, that was all. The closest you can get to 'a freindly' in rugby. No need to read anything into it
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@rocky-rockbottom said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:
Kaino parked out on the wing while the forwards are failing to secure breakdown ball? Maybe it was tecticul...
Babas jaunty, assured and flamboyant til they ran out of puff
AB's wonky and ponderous til babas ran out of puff.ffs.
some of those guys should be sitting in the stands for the rest of the tour.
It was carnival rugby, that was all. The closest you can get to 'a freindly' in rugby. No need to read anything into it
@hooroo said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:
@rocky-rockbottom said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:
Kaino parked out on the wing while the forwards are failing to secure breakdown ball? Maybe it was tecticul...
Babas jaunty, assured and flamboyant til they ran out of puff
AB's wonky and ponderous til babas ran out of puff.ffs.
some of those guys should be sitting in the stands for the rest of the tour.
It was carnival rugby, that was all. The closest you can get to 'a freindly' in rugby. No need to read anything into it
And bring on more of it. It was fun, stupid fun, but fun.
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Ha, and this was before the game:
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I watched this game a bit sleepy , so missed a bit of detail ,
But don't remember much from Jules Savea , was half expecting the return of the bus as he tries to make a statement,
Could it be , that game did him more harm than good ?
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I watched this game a bit sleepy , so missed a bit of detail ,
But don't remember much from Jules Savea , was half expecting the return of the bus as he tries to make a statement,
Could it be , that game did him more harm than good ?
@kiwiinmelb said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:
Could it be , that game did him more harm than good ?
I think it did him no harm because his form this year isn't close to good enough for a return. It might have calmed down some boosters who suggest that his non-selection was a mistake, but I doubt the AB selectors are in that group.
Seta T looked better, and I would suggest he's only in the squad because so many outside backs are out.
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Savea SHOULD stand out in NPC, as should many of those near AB selection (Aumua, Goodhue, Duffie as the newbies all stood out)
