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2018 New Zealand U20s

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    We can say goodbye to that much needed bonus point now.

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      Another turnover because of another Aussie counter ruck. Where are the NZ forwards ?

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      @cgrant It looks intentional. Game plan?

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        Full time: New Zealand 27 - 18 Australia

        Tough game, but deserved win.

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          Flanders the clear stand-out in this game, and Trask and Koroi in the backs. Clarke not bad either.

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            Flanders the clear stand-out in this game, and Trask and Koroi in the backs. Clarke not bad either.

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            @stargazer and Plummer who scored a try and kicked goals.

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              Some interesting results today. You can find them below:

              :::

              Wales 18 - 17 Japan
              Italy 30 - 26 Argentina
              Ireland 20 - 24 Georgia
              England 35 - 10 Scotland
              South Africa 29 - 46 France
              New Zealand 27 - 18 Australia

              Semi-finals:

              South Africa v England (Narbonne)
              New Zealand v France (Perpignan)

              :::

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                Couple of random things:

                1. Glad we had independent TV producer. You could mount an argument that the pass back to Koroi (?) after the quick throw in drifted forward. Did look straight straight along the halfway line but an anti NZ perspective may push an agenda if replayed over and over.

                2. What was the argument for Christie's YC at the end. My view of the replay he seemed to enter the gate and stay on his feet. Was it argued it was a ruck?

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                  did our scrum improve in the 2nd spell, I had to come to work so missed the 2nd half, but our scrum was a bit shit in the 1st half, you'd have to think will struggle even more against typically strong scrummagers in SA/England if we make it past the French.

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                    Couple of random things:

                    1. Glad we had independent TV producer. You could mount an argument that the pass back to Koroi (?) after the quick throw in drifted forward. Did look straight straight along the halfway line but an anti NZ perspective may push an agenda if replayed over and over.

                    2. What was the argument for Christie's YC at the end. My view of the replay he seemed to enter the gate and stay on his feet. Was it argued it was a ruck?

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                    @booboo said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                    Couple of random things:

                    1. Glad we had independent TV producer. You could mount an argument that the pass back to Koroi (?) after the quick throw in drifted forward. Did look straight straight along the halfway line but an anti NZ perspective may push an agenda if replayed over and over.

                    2. What was the argument for Christie's YC at the end. My view of the replay he seemed to enter the gate and stay on his feet. Was it argued it was a ruck?

                    I was a bit surprised by that YC as well. Have to see it on the replay. Agree about that pass back to Koroi just before Spowart's try (see below).

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                      Flanders' try:

                      https://twitter.com/WorldRugby/status/1004815223025356800


                      Spowart's try:

                      https://twitter.com/WorldRugby/status/1004825888725164032

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        did our scrum improve in the 2nd spell, I had to come to work so missed the 2nd half, but our scrum was a bit shit in the 1st half, you'd have to think will struggle even more against typically strong scrummagers in SA/England if we make it past the French.

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                        @taniwharugby said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                        did our scrum improve in the 2nd spell, I had to come to work so missed the 2nd half, but our scrum was a bit shit in the 1st half, you'd have to think will struggle even more against typically strong scrummagers in SA/England if we make it past the French.

                        Only caught the last 30 and most of that I was not really concentrating on it but saw a couple of scrums where we smashed em bro.

                        And they were generally (not always) solid in the ones I saw.

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                          @taniwharugby said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                          did our scrum improve in the 2nd spell, I had to come to work so missed the 2nd half, but our scrum was a bit shit in the 1st half, you'd have to think will struggle even more against typically strong scrummagers in SA/England if we make it past the French.

                          Only caught the last 30 and most of that I was not really concentrating on it but saw a couple of scrums where we smashed em bro.

                          And they were generally (not always) solid in the ones I saw.

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                          @booboo Yeah, I think it's the same as in the Oceania game. Australia dominated the scrum during the first half, beginning 2nd half. Then either tiredness or subs changed the momentum a bit, and NZ got better (not just our scrum). Aussies made a lot of handling errors in the last part of the game as well.

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                            Post-match interview with Tom Christie:

                            https://twitter.com/WorldRugby/status/1004829968843456512


                            https://twitter.com/WorldRugby/status/1004830929586704384

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                              Full games below. It seems like they are all geo-blocked; I hope this is temporary:

                              Wales v Japan


                              Italy v Argentina


                              Ireland v Georgia


                              England v Scotland


                              South Africa v France


                              New Zealand v Australia (will post the link to TVNZ on Demand when available)

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                                @taniwharugby said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                                did our scrum improve in the 2nd spell, I had to come to work so missed the 2nd half, but our scrum was a bit shit in the 1st half, you'd have to think will struggle even more against typically strong scrummagers in SA/England if we make it past the French.

                                Only caught the last 30 and most of that I was not really concentrating on it but saw a couple of scrums where we smashed em bro.

                                And they were generally (not always) solid in the ones I saw.

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                                @booboo cool, I'll watch it tonight with TR Jnr 🙂

                                We got SMASHED JUST BEFORE halftime with a YC and PT after Aus turned down a shot at goal to scrum us....

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                                  Thanks for the updates, I couldn't watch - recorded at home for a warm up tonight before tomorrow - wahoo!

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                                    There's also a replay on Duke at 4.40pm today. Also tomorrow (Saturday) at 1.30pm.

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                                      So Australia don't make the top 4/semis. It's a tough tournament when there are only 3 groups of 4.

                                      In fact this year might be the tightest ever, with Georgia being good only Japan seem out of their depth. Although I see Japan only got pipped by 1 point by Wales today.

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                                        So Australia don't make the top 4/semis. It's a tough tournament when there are only 3 groups of 4.

                                        In fact this year might be the tightest ever, with Georgia being good only Japan seem out of their depth. Although I see Japan only got pipped by 1 point by Wales today.

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                                        @rapido Yeah, Japan only just got promoted to the main tournament after winning the 2017 U20s Trophy. It looks like they may drop straight back to the Trophy tournament, although also Scotland isn't safe yet. It will be interesting to see how Samoa does in the Trophy after being relegated last year.

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                                          I didn't particularly enjoy the game this morning. A lot of mistakes in the commentary. NZ did not seem to have much flow in their play today, missing too many first-stringers. Flanders was very good though, as was Plummer. Several costly errors by Hockings for Australia. I was mystified by some decisions, including yellow card for Christie, and off the ball play ignored.

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