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2018 New Zealand U20s

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  • JKJ Offline
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    That was woeful!

    Had us -5.5 as last leg of a multi! I thought the england vs SA was the scary leg but this ughhhh!

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    • F footy01

      The commentator said that the 10 for France played with Nonu and fekitoa for Toulon. I wonder with so many NZ players over in France, it helps with those top young French players who are amongst them

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      @footy01 I read an article, or heard an interview (I can't remember) recently in which they discussed the huge impact the presence of so many NZ players (particularly former ABs) had on young French players in the Top 14. They said these young players were like sponges. Instead of criticising the big number of AB retirees in the Top 14, they said they should cherish it because there was so much learning opportunity from the best in the game. I remember specifically guys like Carter, Conrad Smith and Vito being mentioned.

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        Love French rugby and their fans. They respect nz rugby and expect a physical game.

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        • Billy TellB Billy Tell

          Love French rugby and their fans. They respect nz rugby and expect a physical game.

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          @billy-tell said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

          Love French rugby and their fans. They respect nz rugby and expect a physical game.

          Aye? I've seen plenty of French fans moaning about these "violent Baby Blacks" on a French forum. And so much resentment as well. I think they're happier about beating a NZ team than about reaching the final.

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            #570

            Today's results below:

            :::

            9th place semis:
            Ireland 29 - 45 Scotland
            Georgia 24 - 22 Japan

            5th place semis:
            Wales 15 - 39 Argentina
            Italy 15 - 44 Australia

            Semi-Final
            England 32 - 31 S Africa
            New Zealand 7 - 16 France

            :::

            .

            The Finals are on Sunday morning NZ time.

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              Agree that really the better team won. We had no go forward and therefore backs looked poor, although they were poor in general. Some stars in that French team though. We really missed Telea'a and Fiaanganukus go forward today, backs just shovelled it.

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                https://twitter.com/T2Rugby/status/1006651281195364356

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                  https://twitter.com/WorldRugby/status/1006630860781522945

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                    https://twitter.com/Smallclone/status/1006630093576384512

                    One day a NZ U20 coach will select a front row for its scrummaging prowess first and foremost. And that front row will demand the other five keep their backs straight and push.

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                      I hope the French senior team take some inspiration from their U20s and put up a better performance in Wellington. I want to see a real contest for the 80 mins, and not them hoisting the white flag in the 2nd half.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        Pfew, I was expecting Renton to be sent off for stomping. French were milking it. TMO involved; penalty only. His foot didn't touch the French head.

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                        @stargazer said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                        Pfew, I was expecting Renton to be sent off for stomping. French were milking it. TMO involved; penalty only. His foot didn't touch the French head.

                        Hard to see how that was a penalty only. Looked deliberate and that should be a card.

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                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                          @stargazer said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                          Pfew, I was expecting Renton to be sent off for stomping. French were milking it. TMO involved; penalty only. His foot didn't touch the French head.

                          Hard to see how that was a penalty only. Looked deliberate and that should be a card.

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                          @antipodean I didn't see a replay, but IIRC, the TMO looked at it off-screen. Obviously, the TMO had more angles, so he probably had a good view of Renton's foot made any contact with the French player and where. It didn't look good in real time, but I don't have to benefit of the TMO's footage. We'll see whether he gets cited or not.

                          Edit: Just saw this clip and it doesn't look good.

                          https://twitter.com/greub1/status/1006632729457446912

                          I wouldn't be surprised if he gets cited, and the length of the possible suspension will probably depend on whether/where he hit the French player and any resulting injury.

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                            Two goes as well. Looks pretty filthy

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                            • StargazerS Stargazer

                              @antipodean I didn't see a replay, but IIRC, the TMO looked at it off-screen. Obviously, the TMO had more angles, so he probably had a good view of Renton's foot made any contact with the French player and where. It didn't look good in real time, but I don't have to benefit of the TMO's footage. We'll see whether he gets cited or not.

                              Edit: Just saw this clip and it doesn't look good.

                              https://twitter.com/greub1/status/1006632729457446912

                              I wouldn't be surprised if he gets cited, and the length of the possible suspension will probably depend on whether/where he hit the French player and any resulting injury.

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                              @stargazer What a dipshit, you can't do that in this day an age.

                              So this team was Philpott coached?

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                              • NepiaN Nepia

                                @stargazer What a dipshit, you can't do that in this day an age.

                                So this team was Philpott coached?

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                                @nepia Yep!

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                                  IIRC the TMO said that Renton didn't connect with the head or neck, only the shoulder (joints was used in his description). Then they cut to the French player bleeding from the head. 🙄

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                                    There's something that should be cited.

                                    Then the judiciary can decide whether it's intentional or accidental. If he's found guilty, I'd say 6-12 weeks.

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                                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                      There's something that should be cited.

                                      Then the judiciary can decide whether it's intentional or accidental. If he's found guilty, I'd say 6-12 weeks.

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                                      @chris-b That's not how it works. The citing commissioner can only cite red cardable offences. Accidental offences are hardly ever red cardable, so won't get cited. In the case of stomping, I think it's hard to argue that it's accidental anyway; it's more likely to be reckless. That could reach the red card threshhold and get cited.

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                                        #584

                                        Highlights from the semi-finals:

                                        Ireland v Scotland


                                        Georgia v Japan


                                        Wales v Argentina


                                        Italy v Australia


                                        England v South Africa


                                        New Zealand v France: still waiting for the highlights to be posted on YouTube.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          @chris-b That's not how it works. The citing commissioner can only cite red cardable offences. Accidental offences are hardly ever red cardable, so won't get cited. In the case of stomping, I think it's hard to argue that it's accidental anyway; it's more likely to be reckless. That could reach the red card threshhold and get cited.

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                                          @stargazer I think that is how it works - otherwise how did Squire escape?

                                          The citing commissioner cites things that in his opinion reach the red card threshold - he's the policeman.

                                          The judiciary then hold a hearing - they're the court.

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