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    A total 52 young players have been selected to attend the New Zealand Under 20 Development Camp as coach Craig Philpott begins preparation for the 2018 World Rugby Under 20 Championship.
    
    Players selected to attend the development camp in Palmerston North from 3-9 December 2017 are: 
    

    Forwards
    John Akau'ola-Laula - Auckland
    Sione Asi - Manawatu
    Suetena Asomua - Counties Manukau
    Tom Christie - Canterbury
    Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta - Ta$man
    Rob Cobb - Auckland
    Jacob Devery - Hawkes Bay
    Sosaia Fale - Waikato
    Tim Farrell - Hawkes Bay
    Devan Flanders - Hawkes Bay
    Tom Florence - Taranaki
    Brayden Iose - Manawatu
    Ricky Jackson - Otago
    Joe Johnson - Bay of Plenty
    Josh Kaho - Waikato
    Tevita Mafileo - Bay of Plenty
    Slade McDowall - Otago
    Laghlan McWhannell - Waikato
    Sam Moli - Ta$man
    Ajay Mua - Bay of Plenty
    Xavier Numia - Wellington
    Waimana Reidlinger-Kapa - Auckland
    Ben Sa'u - Auckland
    Bradley Slater - Taranaki
    Hoskins Sotutu - Auckland
    Cameron Suafoa - Auckland
    Sione Talitui - Auckland
    Flynn Thomas - Southland
    Will Tucker - Canterbury
    Kaliopasi Uluilakepa - Wellington
    Tupou Va'ai - Taranaki
    Ricky Van Der Heyden - Bay of Plenty

    Backs
    Wiseguy Faiane- Auckland
    Leicester Faingaanuku - Ta$man
    Scott Gregory - Northland
    Jack Grooby - Ta$man
    Ciarahn Matoe - Taranaki
    Rupena Parkinson - Ta$man
    Harry Plummer - Auckland
    Rameka Poihipi - Canterbury
    Carlos Price - Wellington
    Billy Proctor - Wellington
    Ngane Punivai - Canterbury
    Jay Renton - Southland
    Xavier Roe - Waikato
    Jamie Spowart - Ta$man
    Bailyn Sullivan - Waikato
    Tanielu Tele'a - Auckland
    Danny Toala - Hawkes Bay
    Salyn Tonu'u - North Harbour
    Sheldon Tovio - Waikato
    Kaleb Trask - Bay of Plenty

    Not considered due to Super Rugby or Sevens commitments: Caleb Clarke (Auckland), Will Jordan ( Ta$man), Vilimoni Koroi (Otago).

    Not considered due to injury: Will Tremain (Hawke's Bay), Raymond Nu'u (Canterbury).

    http://www.allblacks.com/News/31703/journey-to-2018-world-rugby-under-20-championship-begins

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      Selected players by province:

      Auckland (11): John Akau'ola-Laula, Rob Cobb, Waimana Reidlinger-Kapa, Ben Sa'u, Hoskins Sotutu, Cameron Suafoa, Sione Talitui, Wiseguy Faiane, Harry Plummer, Tanielu Tele'a, [Caleb Clarke]
      Bay of Plenty (5): Joe Johnson, Tevita Mafileo, Ajay Mua, Ricky Van Der Heyden, Kaleb Trask
      Counties (1): Suetena Asomua
      Canterbury (5): Tom Christie, Will Tucker, Rameka Poihipi, Ngane Punivai, [ Raymond Nu'u]
      Hawke's Bay (5): Jacob Devery, Tim Farrell, Devan Flanders, Danny Toala, [Will Tremain]
      Manawatu (2): Sione Asi, Brayden Iose
      North Harbour (1): Salyn Tonu'u
      Northland (1): Scott Gregory,
      Otago (3): Ricky Jackson, Slade McDowall, [Vilimoni Koroi]
      Southland (2): Flynn Thomas, Jay Renton
      Taranaki (4) Tom Florence, Bradley Slater, Tupou Va'ai, Ciarahn Matoe
      Ta$man (7): Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta, Sam Moli, Leicester Faingaanuku, Jack Grooby, Rupena Parkinson, Jamie Spowart, [Will Jordan]
      Waikato (6) Sosaia Fale, Josh Kaho, Laghlan McWhannell, Xavier Roe, Bailyn Sullivan, Sheldon Tovio
      Wellington (4): Xavier Numia, Kaliopasi Uluilakepa, Carlos Price, Billy Proctor

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      • StargazerS Offline
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        For some reason, I expected more players from the NZ Schools team.
        For example, I miss players from Hastings Boys like Lincoln McClutchie, Folau Fakatava and others; Rivez Reihana from SKC etc, but maybe they are still too young? Maybe they'll be playing U19s first in 2018?

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          Bugger, Taranaki have recruited Tupou Va'ai from Wesley/Counties. I was hoping he would join the Counties Academy.

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            Who are sons of former Pro players?

            Hoskins Sotutu
            Salyn Tonu'u?
            Rupena Parkinson?

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              For some reason, I expected more players from the NZ Schools team.
              For example, I miss players from Hastings Boys like Lincoln McClutchie, Folau Fakatava and others; Rivez Reihana from SKC etc, but maybe they are still too young? Maybe they'll be playing U19s first in 2018?

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              @stargazer

              Reihana is from SKC.

              Waikato is under-represented given they made the U19 final again. I thought the 1st 5 Coombes-Fabling played very well in the tournament.

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                @stargazer

                Reihana is from SKC.

                Waikato is under-represented given they made the U19 final again. I thought the 1st 5 Coombes-Fabling played very well in the tournament.

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                @bovidae said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                @stargazer

                Reihana is from SKC.

                Waikato is under-represented given they made the U19 final again. I thought the 1st 5 Coombes-Fabling played very well in the tournament.

                Cheers, yes, was thinking about the right player, but the wrong Top 4 game.

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                • mikedogzM mikedogz

                  Who are sons of former Pro players?

                  Hoskins Sotutu
                  Salyn Tonu'u?
                  Rupena Parkinson?

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                  @mikedogz said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                  Who are sons of former Pro players?

                  Hoskins Sotutu
                  Salyn Tonu'u?
                  Rupena Parkinson?

                  Brad Slater is Andy's son. I saw him play at hooker for NPBHS a few times and didn't rate him.

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                    hopefully Reihana comes back here when he steps into Provincial rugby!

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer
                      A total 52 young players have been selected to attend the New Zealand Under 20 Development Camp as coach Craig Philpott begins preparation for the 2018 World Rugby Under 20 Championship.
                      
                      Players selected to attend the development camp in Palmerston North from 3-9 December 2017 are: 
                      

                      Forwards
                      John Akau'ola-Laula - Auckland
                      Sione Asi - Manawatu
                      Suetena Asomua - Counties Manukau
                      Tom Christie - Canterbury
                      Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta - Ta$man
                      Rob Cobb - Auckland
                      Jacob Devery - Hawkes Bay
                      Sosaia Fale - Waikato
                      Tim Farrell - Hawkes Bay
                      Devan Flanders - Hawkes Bay
                      Tom Florence - Taranaki
                      Brayden Iose - Manawatu
                      Ricky Jackson - Otago
                      Joe Johnson - Bay of Plenty
                      Josh Kaho - Waikato
                      Tevita Mafileo - Bay of Plenty
                      Slade McDowall - Otago
                      Laghlan McWhannell - Waikato
                      Sam Moli - Ta$man
                      Ajay Mua - Bay of Plenty
                      Xavier Numia - Wellington
                      Waimana Reidlinger-Kapa - Auckland
                      Ben Sa'u - Auckland
                      Bradley Slater - Taranaki
                      Hoskins Sotutu - Auckland
                      Cameron Suafoa - Auckland
                      Sione Talitui - Auckland
                      Flynn Thomas - Southland
                      Will Tucker - Canterbury
                      Kaliopasi Uluilakepa - Wellington
                      Tupou Va'ai - Taranaki
                      Ricky Van Der Heyden - Bay of Plenty

                      Backs
                      Wiseguy Faiane- Auckland
                      Leicester Faingaanuku - Ta$man
                      Scott Gregory - Northland
                      Jack Grooby - Ta$man
                      Ciarahn Matoe - Taranaki
                      Rupena Parkinson - Ta$man
                      Harry Plummer - Auckland
                      Rameka Poihipi - Canterbury
                      Carlos Price - Wellington
                      Billy Proctor - Wellington
                      Ngane Punivai - Canterbury
                      Jay Renton - Southland
                      Xavier Roe - Waikato
                      Jamie Spowart - Ta$man
                      Bailyn Sullivan - Waikato
                      Tanielu Tele'a - Auckland
                      Danny Toala - Hawkes Bay
                      Salyn Tonu'u - North Harbour
                      Sheldon Tovio - Waikato
                      Kaleb Trask - Bay of Plenty

                      Not considered due to Super Rugby or Sevens commitments: Caleb Clarke (Auckland), Will Jordan ( Ta$man), Vilimoni Koroi (Otago).

                      Not considered due to injury: Will Tremain (Hawke's Bay), Raymond Nu'u (Canterbury).

                      http://www.allblacks.com/News/31703/journey-to-2018-world-rugby-under-20-championship-begins

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                      @stargazer said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                      Not considered due to Super Rugby or Sevens commitments: Caleb Clarke (Auckland), Will Jordan ( Ta$man), Vilimoni Koroi (Otago).

                      Reading between the lines, Koroi is in the NZ 7s team (no surprises) and Will Jordan is in the Crusaders (seems likely) and therefore Caleb Clarke is in the Blues or NZ 7s?

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                      • WurzelW Wurzel

                        @stargazer said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                        Not considered due to Super Rugby or Sevens commitments: Caleb Clarke (Auckland), Will Jordan ( Ta$man), Vilimoni Koroi (Otago).

                        Reading between the lines, Koroi is in the NZ 7s team (no surprises) and Will Jordan is in the Crusaders (seems likely) and therefore Caleb Clarke is in the Blues or NZ 7s?

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                        @wurzel Caleb Clarke was announced as a Blues signing a couple of months back - along with Dalton Papalii

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                        • mikedogzM mikedogz

                          Who are sons of former Pro players?

                          Hoskins Sotutu
                          Salyn Tonu'u?
                          Rupena Parkinson?

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                          @mikedogz

                          Salyn Tonu'u is Junior Tonu'u's son. He plays halfback, and apparently was the star of the NH U19 team this year (finished 3rd).

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                          • mikedogzM mikedogz

                            Who are sons of former Pro players?

                            Hoskins Sotutu
                            Salyn Tonu'u?
                            Rupena Parkinson?

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                            @mikedogz said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                            Who are sons of former Pro players?

                            Hoskins Sotutu
                            Salyn Tonu'u?
                            Rupena Parkinson?

                            I think I remember a Van Der Heyden for BoP in late 80s / early 90s. Played No8 i think, or may have been a different dutch sounding name?

                            (not pro then though .......)

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                              Good squad, some depth there.
                              as for 10s like McCluthie, Reihana (Only y12), Waikato first five, we just happen to have talent there, Last two years schools first 5s who have played mitre10 Wiseguy, Plummer and my pick Matoe.
                              Like the athletes in the forwards, but agin it will be the set-piece that dictates the success of the group.

                              As is the way a number of this squad will not make it to the next stage and those not pick will find there way in for march, especially this years schools players. You always find that the Feb/March camps is more accurate as they pick players who have had super squad exposure and super development games. I think they selectors want to see them play up a level before choosing current school players.

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                                @mikedogz said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                                Who are sons of former Pro players?

                                Hoskins Sotutu
                                Salyn Tonu'u?
                                Rupena Parkinson?

                                I think I remember a Van Der Heyden for BoP in late 80s / early 90s. Played No8 i think, or may have been a different dutch sounding name?

                                (not pro then though .......)

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                                @rapido said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                                @mikedogz said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                                Who are sons of former Pro players?

                                Hoskins Sotutu
                                Salyn Tonu'u?
                                Rupena Parkinson?

                                I think I remember a Van Der Heyden for BoP in late 80s / early 90s. Played No8 i think, or may have been a different dutch sounding name?

                                (not pro then though .......)

                                I think you're thinking of Steve van der Leeden who was number eight for BOP 1989-1990.
                                His father Ernest was fullback for BOP 1968.

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                                  I expected Alaimalo, Dyer, Ah Kuoi, Funaki, Tupaea and Etene Nanai to make the squad. They had been very impressive for the NZ Schoolboys in September. Still too young ?

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                                    I expected Alaimalo, Dyer, Ah Kuoi, Funaki, Tupaea and Etene Nanai to make the squad. They had been very impressive for the NZ Schoolboys in September. Still too young ?

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                                    @cgrant Yeah, that's what I thought when I said that I expected more players from the NZ Schools team. I think many of them will probably play U19s in 2018, and only a few will make the U20 squad.

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                                      Selected players by province:

                                      Auckland (11): John Akau'ola-Laula, Rob Cobb, Waimana Reidlinger-Kapa, Ben Sa'u, Hoskins Sotutu, Cameron Suafoa, Sione Talitui, Wiseguy Faiane, Harry Plummer, Tanielu Tele'a, [Caleb Clarke]
                                      Bay of Plenty (5): Joe Johnson, Tevita Mafileo, Ajay Mua, Ricky Van Der Heyden, Kaleb Trask
                                      Counties (1): Suetena Asomua
                                      Canterbury (5): Tom Christie, Will Tucker, Rameka Poihipi, Ngane Punivai, [ Raymond Nu'u]
                                      Hawke's Bay (5): Jacob Devery, Tim Farrell, Devan Flanders, Danny Toala, [Will Tremain]
                                      Manawatu (2): Sione Asi, Brayden Iose
                                      North Harbour (1): Salyn Tonu'u
                                      Northland (1): Scott Gregory,
                                      Otago (3): Ricky Jackson, Slade McDowall, [Vilimoni Koroi]
                                      Southland (2): Flynn Thomas, Jay Renton
                                      Taranaki (4) Tom Florence, Bradley Slater, Tupou Va'ai, Ciarahn Matoe
                                      Ta$man (7): Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta, Sam Moli, Leicester Faingaanuku, Jack Grooby, Rupena Parkinson, Jamie Spowart, [Will Jordan]
                                      Waikato (6) Sosaia Fale, Josh Kaho, Laghlan McWhannell, Xavier Roe, Bailyn Sullivan, Sheldon Tovio
                                      Wellington (4): Xavier Numia, Kaliopasi Uluilakepa, Carlos Price, Billy Proctor

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                                      @stargazer said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                                      Auckland (11): John Akau'ola-Laula, Rob Cobb, Waimana Reidlinger-Kapa, Ben Sa'u, Hoskins Sotutu, Cameron Suafoa, Sione Talitui, Wiseguy Faiane, Harry Plummer, Tanielu Tele'a, [Caleb Clarke]
                                      Bay of Plenty (5): Joe Johnson, Tevita Mafileo, Ajay Mua, Ricky Van Der Heyden, Kaleb Trask
                                      Counties (1): Suetena Asomua
                                      Canterbury (5): Tom Christie, Will Tucker, Rameka Poihipi, Ngane Punivai, [ Raymond Nu'u]
                                      Hawke's Bay (5): Jacob Devery, Tim Farrell, Devan Flanders, Danny Toala, [Will Tremain]
                                      Manawatu (2): Sione Asi, Brayden Iose
                                      North Harbour (1): Salyn Tonu'u
                                      Northland (1): Scott Gregory,
                                      Otago (3): Ricky Jackson, Slade McDowall, [Vilimoni Koroi]
                                      Southland (2): Flynn Thomas, Jay Renton
                                      Taranaki (4) Tom Florence, Bradley Slater, Tupou Va'ai, Ciarahn Matoe
                                      Ta$man (7): Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta, Sam Moli, Leicester Faingaanuku, Jack Grooby, Rupena Parkinson, Jamie Spowart, [Will Jordan]
                                      Waikato (6) Sosaia Fale, Josh Kaho, Laghlan McWhannell, Xavier Roe, Bailyn Sullivan, Sheldon Tovio
                                      Wellington (4): Xavier Numia, Kaliopasi Uluilakepa, Carlos Price, Billy Proctor

                                      The ones in bold all played Mitre 10 Cup this year except for Ngani Punivai who played in Canterbury's Ranfurly Shield defence v Wanganui.

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                                        Good squad, some depth there.
                                        as for 10s like McCluthie, Reihana (Only y12), Waikato first five, we just happen to have talent there, Last two years schools first 5s who have played mitre10 Wiseguy, Plummer and my pick Matoe.
                                        Like the athletes in the forwards, but agin it will be the set-piece that dictates the success of the group.

                                        As is the way a number of this squad will not make it to the next stage and those not pick will find there way in for march, especially this years schools players. You always find that the Feb/March camps is more accurate as they pick players who have had super squad exposure and super development games. I think they selectors want to see them play up a level before choosing current school players.

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                                        @98blueandgold

                                        I've heard good things about Matoe. He spent most of the season playing club rugby for Hautapu in the Waikato.

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                                          @stargazer said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                                          Auckland (11): John Akau'ola-Laula, Rob Cobb, Waimana Reidlinger-Kapa, Ben Sa'u, Hoskins Sotutu, Cameron Suafoa, Sione Talitui, Wiseguy Faiane, Harry Plummer, Tanielu Tele'a, [Caleb Clarke]
                                          Bay of Plenty (5): Joe Johnson, Tevita Mafileo, Ajay Mua, Ricky Van Der Heyden, Kaleb Trask
                                          Counties (1): Suetena Asomua
                                          Canterbury (5): Tom Christie, Will Tucker, Rameka Poihipi, Ngane Punivai, [ Raymond Nu'u]
                                          Hawke's Bay (5): Jacob Devery, Tim Farrell, Devan Flanders, Danny Toala, [Will Tremain]
                                          Manawatu (2): Sione Asi, Brayden Iose
                                          North Harbour (1): Salyn Tonu'u
                                          Northland (1): Scott Gregory,
                                          Otago (3): Ricky Jackson, Slade McDowall, [Vilimoni Koroi]
                                          Southland (2): Flynn Thomas, Jay Renton
                                          Taranaki (4) Tom Florence, Bradley Slater, Tupou Va'ai, Ciarahn Matoe
                                          Ta$man (7): Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta, Sam Moli, Leicester Faingaanuku, Jack Grooby, Rupena Parkinson, Jamie Spowart, [Will Jordan]
                                          Waikato (6) Sosaia Fale, Josh Kaho, Laghlan McWhannell, Xavier Roe, Bailyn Sullivan, Sheldon Tovio
                                          Wellington (4): Xavier Numia, Kaliopasi Uluilakepa, Carlos Price, Billy Proctor

                                          The ones in bold all played Mitre 10 Cup this year except for Ngani Punivai who played in Canterbury's Ranfurly Shield defence v Wanganui.

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                                          @number-10 said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                                          @stargazer said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                                          Auckland (11): John Akau'ola-Laula, Rob Cobb, Waimana Reidlinger-Kapa, Ben Sa'u, Hoskins Sotutu, Cameron Suafoa, Sione Talitui, Wiseguy Faiane, Harry Plummer, Tanielu Tele'a, [Caleb Clarke]
                                          Bay of Plenty (5): Joe Johnson, Tevita Mafileo, Ajay Mua, Ricky Van Der Heyden, Kaleb Trask
                                          Counties (1): Suetena Asomua
                                          Canterbury (5): Tom Christie, Will Tucker, Rameka Poihipi, Ngane Punivai, [ Raymond Nu'u]
                                          Hawke's Bay (5): Jacob Devery, Tim Farrell, Devan Flanders, Danny Toala, [Will Tremain]
                                          Manawatu (2): Sione Asi, Brayden Iose
                                          North Harbour (1): Salyn Tonu'u
                                          Northland (1): Scott Gregory,
                                          Otago (3): Ricky Jackson, Slade McDowall, [Vilimoni Koroi]
                                          Southland (2): Flynn Thomas, Jay Renton
                                          Taranaki (4) Tom Florence, Bradley Slater, Tupou Va'ai, Ciarahn Matoe
                                          Ta$man (7): Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta, Sam Moli, Leicester Faingaanuku, Jack Grooby, Rupena Parkinson, Jamie Spowart, [Will Jordan]
                                          Waikato (6) Sosaia Fale, Josh Kaho, Laghlan McWhannell, Xavier Roe, Bailyn Sullivan, Sheldon Tovio
                                          Wellington (4): Xavier Numia, Kaliopasi Uluilakepa, Carlos Price, Billy Proctor

                                          The ones in bold all played Mitre 10 Cup this year except for Ngani Punivai who played in Canterbury's Ranfurly Shield defence v Wanganui.

                                          I think Christie has played a few minutes against Ta$man during the Mitre 10 Cup final.

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