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2018 New Zealand U20s

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    Must have been close to our best XV today. Shame that the conditions forced our game-plan more to position and pressure than possession. Box-kicks from halfback and tighties pounding it upfield worked very well, but we haven't seen the best of Plummer and the loosies yet I feel. Hope we can see more creativity from the inside backs and continuity between backs and forwards out wide. Would like to see Trask involved more.

    This team does seem well equipped to play any type of game dictated by conditions or opposition, with some bruisers we lacked in previous years. Looking forward to the rest of the tournament!

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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      @stargazer said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

      Have already seen a lot of Welsh moaning about the referee on social media. This is one example. Obviously, it's one-sided moaning, but if Faingaanuku wasn't penalised (I can't remember), they may have a point in this instance.

      https://twitter.com/theblitzdefence/status/1003288352823619585

      They don't have a point because that is the NZU20s not the All Blacks. How exactly do we manage to exert this mystical power - must be terrified that Jacinda is going to order airstrikes with our barely existent airforce?

      I would have given Leicester a yellow for that, though.

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      @chris-b said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

      @stargazer said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

      Have already seen a lot of Welsh moaning about the referee on social media. This is one example. Obviously, it's one-sided moaning, but if Faingaanuku wasn't penalised (I can't remember), they may have a point in this instance.

      https://twitter.com/theblitzdefence/status/1003288352823619585

      They don't have a point because that is the NZU20s not the All Blacks. How exactly do we manage to exert this mystical power - must be terrified that Jacinda is going to order airstrikes with our barely existent airforce?

      I would have given Leicester a yellow for that, though.

      We invented con-trails ... the Fletcher topdresser...

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        Where is it possible to watch a replay on the net ?

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          Where is it possible to watch a replay on the net ?

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          @cgrant If you scroll back a bit in this thread, you'll find them all.

          Edit: this is the link to my post with all the videos: http://www.thesilverfern.com/post/234151

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            Thanks a lot but it's blocked ...

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              Have already seen a lot of Welsh moaning about the referee on social media. This is one example. Obviously, it's one-sided moaning, but if Faingaanuku wasn't penalised (I can't remember), they may have a point in this instance.

              https://twitter.com/theblitzdefence/status/1003288352823619585

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              @stargazer he wasn't penalised and rightly so. Nobody told the Welsh player to jump for no reason

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                @stargazer he wasn't penalised and rightly so. Nobody told the Welsh player to jump for no reason

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                @rebound said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                @stargazer he wasn't penalised and rightly so. Nobody told the Welsh player to jump for no reason

                True.

                But if that's what passes for a tackle in NZ then heaven help us

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                • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                  @rebound said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                  @stargazer he wasn't penalised and rightly so. Nobody told the Welsh player to jump for no reason

                  True.

                  But if that's what passes for a tackle in NZ then heaven help us

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                  @mikethesnow heaven help us if players start jumping to catch a pass and draw penalties...

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                  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                    @rebound said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                    @stargazer he wasn't penalised and rightly so. Nobody told the Welsh player to jump for no reason

                    True.

                    But if that's what passes for a tackle in NZ then heaven help us

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                    @mikethesnow it wasn't a tackle but competition for the ball. It really is a grey area that was highlighted during the recent Lions tour. It might be cynical of me but I'm sure this would've been clarified by now had it been Faumuina who had jumped for the ball when he didn't have to.

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                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                      @rebound said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                      @stargazer he wasn't penalised and rightly so. Nobody told the Welsh player to jump for no reason

                      True.

                      But if that's what passes for a tackle in NZ then heaven help us

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                      @mikethesnow said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                      @rebound said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                      @stargazer he wasn't penalised and rightly so. Nobody told the Welsh player to jump for no reason

                      True.

                      But if that's what passes for a tackle in NZ then heaven help us

                      delightfully pissy and dramatic

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                      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                        @rebound said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                        @stargazer he wasn't penalised and rightly so. Nobody told the Welsh player to jump for no reason

                        True.

                        But if that's what passes for a tackle in NZ then heaven help us

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                        @mikethesnow said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                        @rebound said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                        @stargazer he wasn't penalised and rightly so. Nobody told the Welsh player to jump for no reason

                        True.

                        But if that's what passes for a tackle in NZ then heaven help us

                        There is an argument that the welsh player went into contact with the knee raised, yellow card for dangerous play 😉

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                          @mikethesnow heaven help us if players start jumping to catch a pass and draw penalties...

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                          @taniwharugby said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                          @mikethesnow heaven help us if players start jumping to catch a pass and draw penalties...

                          When would that happen?

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                            Telea has been suspended, 3 games, that's his tournament.

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                              U20 Championship 2018: Disciplinary

                              Tanielu Tele'a (New Zealand)

                              New Zealand centre Tanielu Tele’a appeared before an independent Disciplinary Committee (Charles Cuthbert (UAE) chair, former Scotland player Beth Dickens and former Scotland and Edinburgh coach Frank Hadden) in Perpignan on 5 June, 2018 having been cited by Citing Commissioner Eugene Ryan (Ireland) for a late, dangerous tackle and/or strike on Wales centre Ioan Nicholas in breach of Laws 9.11-9.13 in the 81st minute of their Pool A match at the World Rugby U20 Championship on 3 June ,2018 in Béziers.
                              
                              Tele’a accepted that he had committed an act of foul play but disputed that the Citing Commissioner was correct to determine that it warranted an ordering off. Having received evidence from Tele’a, referee Ludovic Cayre (France), a medical report and a statement from Nicholas as well as reviewing the video footage and hearing submissions on behalf of the player, the Disciplinary Committee determined that Tele’a had led with his shoulder and recklessly struck Nicholas’s head.
                              
                              The Committee upheld the citing under Law 9.12 and considered it to be mid-range offending which carries a six-week entry point. They reduced the sanction to three weeks based on Tele’a’s youth and inexperience, previously clean record, conduct, remorse and acceptance that he had committed foul play. During the tournament three weeks equates to three matches. Tele’a is suspended for New Zealand’s remaining three matches in the World Rugby U20 Championship 2018.
                              
                              The player has 48 hours in which to appeal.
                              
                              The full written decision will be published here when available.
                              
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                                I wonder whether teams are permitted to fly in a replacement for a player who has been suspended for the remainder of the tournament. Does anyone know? I guess, if it's permitted and if they want to replace Tele'a, Ngane Punivai will get a phone call.

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                                  Thanks a lot but it's blocked ...

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                                  @cgrant This is the link to the game on TVNZ On Demand. You'll need to register.

                                  https://www.tvnz.co.nz/shows/world-rugby-u20-championship/episodes/s2018-e4

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                                  • RapidoR Rapido

                                    Telea has been suspended, 3 games, that's his tournament.

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                                    @rapido said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                                    Telea has been suspended, 3 games, that's his tournament.

                                    Incident we've all been talking about?

                                    If so, the citing commission may have had a different angle to look at.

                                    Rewatching it the NZ player totally misjudged both the flight and bounce of the ball and clumsily made contact with the Welsh player with his shoulder.

                                    That's my 2 cents.

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                                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                      @rapido said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                                      Telea has been suspended, 3 games, that's his tournament.

                                      Incident we've all been talking about?

                                      If so, the citing commission may have had a different angle to look at.

                                      Rewatching it the NZ player totally misjudged both the flight and bounce of the ball and clumsily made contact with the Welsh player with his shoulder.

                                      That's my 2 cents.

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                                      @mikethesnow No, it's a different player and a different incident from the one in the clip that I posted (that was from the first half and the player was Leicester Faingaanuku). The suspended player is Tanielu Tele'a, who was yellow-carded for a late, no-arms tackle at the end of the game (81st minute). Really stupid and unnecessary, and obviously, the citing commissioner and the Disciplinary Committee considered it a red-card offence instead of a yellow.

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        @mikethesnow No, it's a different player and a different incident from the one in the clip that I posted (that was from the first half and the player was Leicester Faingaanuku). The suspended player is Tanielu Tele'a, who was yellow-carded for a late, no-arms tackle at the end of the game (81st minute). Really stupid and unnecessary, and obviously, the citing commissioner and the Disciplinary Committee considered it a red-card offence instead of a yellow.

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                                        @stargazer said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                                        @mikethesnow No, it's a different player and a different incident from the one in the clip that I posted (that was from the first half and the player was Leicester Faingaanuku). The suspended player is Tanielu Tele'a, who was yellow-carded for a late, no-arms tackle at the end of the game (81st minute). Really stupid and unnecessary, and obviously, the citing commissioner and the Disciplinary Committee considered it a red-card offence instead of a yellow.

                                        Ta

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          @cgrant This is the link to the game on TVNZ On Demand. You'll need to register.

                                          https://www.tvnz.co.nz/shows/world-rugby-u20-championship/episodes/s2018-e4

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                                          @stargazer said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

                                          @cgrant This is the link to the game on TVNZ On Demand. You'll need to register.

                                          https://www.tvnz.co.nz/shows/world-rugby-u20-championship/episodes/s2018-e4

                                          Thanks a lot !

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