AB Test Team v France.

westcoastie

Heres what I'd like to see... any other thoughts out there? Does Laumape get a go after the BaaBaa game?

Hames
Taylor
Laulala
Whitelock
Barrett S
Squire
Cane
Read
Smith A
Barrett B
~~Ioane R~~ Tamanivalu
Crotty
ALB
Naholo
Mackenzie

Coles
Crockett
Tu'ungafasi
Tuipolutu
Todd
TKB
Sopoaga
SBW

Would like to see DMac off the bench, I don't want him anywhere near the 10 shirt until after the super season. If hes on the bench we don't need to carry Sopoaga there...so it comes down to whos playing betterer Sopoaga or Havili.

think SBW needs to ride the pine and be that guy.

would like Laumape to be given the start, but don't think that will happen.

Happy to keep Todd on the bench from Brisbane, don't think Ardie has done that much. Plus I expect selectors to pick Todd, or I think he would've started the BaaBaa game.

westcoastie

Scratch Ioane, looks like he has the mumps... wtf? how does an adult contract this...
Ioane Mumps

Tim

This is the second case of mumps in this squad. Rookie centre Jack Goodhue missed the opening match against the Baabaas with the same illness, staying at home to recover. He rejoined the team in London last Friday. It is believed he did not have contact with Ioane.

There's an outbreak in Auckland at the moment.

westcoastie

Well bloody hell. Least we're dealing with some bad luck with injuries and things this year rather than 2019.

Stargazer

Geez, why don't people get vaccinated? This is so preventable!

pakman

@westcoastie I expect Coles will get the start, but understand the thinking regarding Taylor.

One area I do feel quite strongly on is that I'd start Romero. I totally get that he doesn't have the X-factor, but he brings serious grunt, and, given the first stringers out, we need more of that to add balance. I'd expect Whitelock to be more effective at LH lock. Barrett (S) to bench.

In backs I think SBW and Crotty are locked in. For me Crotty isn't looking comfortable at test level at 13 and SBW seems very predictable, so not a fan of combo. And ALB has seemed a little off: still good decision maker, but not as sharp as last year. I think he'll ride pine, but wouldn't mind seeing Laumape get a run.

And if this were the last game ever TKB would definitely be my reserve. He might not have the sheer athletic ability of ThomasJP, but he has a much calmer demeanour and gets the basics done efficiently, and that is what one generally wants in a closer. Not that the three wise men are going to agree!

booboo

@stargazer said in AB Test Team v France.:

Geez, why don't people get vaccinated? This is so preventable!

Because idiots.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/98414734/antivaxxers-delusional-and-dangerous

booboo

@westcoastie said in AB Test Team v France.:

Heres what I'd like to see... any other thoughts out there? Does Laumape get a go after the BaaBaa game?

Hames
Taylor
Laulala
Whitelock
Barrett S
Squire
Cane
Read
Smith A
Barrett B
~~Ioane R~~ Tamanivalu
Crotty
ALB
Naholo
Mackenzie

Coles
Crockett
Tu'ungafasi
Tuipolutu
Todd
TKB
Sopoaga
SBW

Would like to see DMac off the bench, I don't want him anywhere near the 10 shirt until after the super season. If hes on the bench we don't need to carry Sopoaga there...so it comes down to whos playing betterer Sopoaga or Havili.

think SBW needs to ride the pine and be that guy.

would like Laumape to be given the start, but don't think that will happen.

Happy to keep Todd on the bench from Brisbane, don't think Ardie has done that much. Plus I expect selectors to pick Todd, or I think he would've started the BaaBaa game.

I'm going Romero to start. S Barrett in the stand.

SBW to 12. Crotty to 13.

TJP off the bench.

ALB off the bench.

mimic

@stargazer said in AB Test Team v France.:

Geez, why don't people get vaccinated? This is so preventable!

Education ?
When and where do we get these vaccinations?

I remember when I was in primary we got some vacinnation shots.. I don't know what it was for though..

Crucial

@mimic said in AB Test Team v France.:

@stargazer said in AB Test Team v France.:

Geez, why don't people get vaccinated? This is so preventable!

Education ?
When and where do we get these vaccinations?

I remember when I was in primary we got some vacinnation shots.. I don't know what it was for though..

MMR (Measles, Mumps and Rubella) used to just be a standard shot from the doc when you were a kid. No questions asked, no M, M or R

Billy Tell

Hope the man’s nuts survive. Mumps can cause sterility

Billy Tell

My preferred starting XV (but won't happen of course)

Crockett - Coles - Laulala
Romano - Whitelock
Squire - Read - Cane

Smith - Barrett
SBW - Crotty
Ioane/Tamanivalue - McKenzie - Naholo

Hames - Taylor - Tu'angafasi
Barrett
Todd or Fafita

TJP - Mo'unga - Laumape or Havili

I reckon our team is a little bit crap at the moment with all the injuries etc: especially Moody, Retallick, Jordie Barrett and BFA.
And we still haven't sorted out the midfield, 2 years after Nonu & Smith. I hope Goodhue gets at least 1 game.

Crucial

On current form giving Mac a go at 10 can't be much worse than BB or Lima.

BB is one of the worlds best when playing well but it seems a long time since seeing any great form from him.

I don't know if it is a gameplay thing but he is standing flat footed to take the ball from set piece.

It was really noticeable in the Baabaas game. I know TJP has a lot to answer for here but there was no evidence that BB was even looking for a ball delivered a metre and a half in front of him to punch onto.

BTW, I saw some old clip of the 2001 Auckland Northland game the other day (can't find it on youtube) and fuck those guys were popping passes into mid air for the support to catch at speed. Spencer was taking the ball at pace and causing havoc. Even the forwards were passing in front. Are the modern defences so good they have killed this off?

taniwharugby

@crucial its in the first post of this thread

http://www.thesilverfern.com/topic/1980/video-clips

Crucial

@taniwharugby said in AB Test Team v France.:

@crucial its in the first post of this thread

http://www.thesilverfern.com/topic/1980/video-clips

Not surprised you posted that!

Great game.

pakman

@crucial Amazing clip. Caucau was electric in those days. I know James Arlidge. Very nice bloke, who's now an accountant at Deloitte.

nzzp

@westcoastie said in AB Test Team v France.:

Well bloody hell. Least we're dealing with some bad luck with injuries and things this year rather than 2019.

I reckon this year will be the making of the side. A lot of new blood, real challenges, and the realisation of how tough Test Rugby really is for a lot of players.

2 years to go, and you will see this pay off at the cup I reckon. Very glass half full on this one.

Crucial

@nzzp said in AB Test Team v France.:

@westcoastie said in AB Test Team v France.:

Well bloody hell. Least we're dealing with some bad luck with injuries and things this year rather than 2019.

I reckon this year will be the making of the side. A lot of new blood, real challenges, and the realisation of how tough Test Rugby really is for a lot of players.

2 years to go, and you will see this pay off at the cup I reckon. Very glass half full on this one.

I'm hoping that the coaches learn from it as well.
You can't expect these cobbled together sides to play like the experienced guys do.
Look at the difference Cane made yesterday.
It took a short spell of focussing the guys onto running hard and direct before spotting the ,mismatches and going wide.
This season we have too often tried to play too much rugby without earning the right. When we had the McCaws, Nonus and Smiths we could do that because the right had been earned just by them being there but without them and without BBBR, BFA, Whitelock etc we can't expect to run around everyone.

westcoastie

This season we have too often tried to play too much rugby without earning the right. When we had the McCaws, Nonus and Smiths we could do that because the right had been earned just by them being there but without them and without BBBR, BFA, Whitelock etc we can't expect to run around everyone.

this.

We have to earn the right.
I'm a bit curious as to why the tactic to run everything from the #9 in the first BIL test was shelved so quickly because geezus that was effective.
Maybe we didn't want to continue to show that. Maybe it was just by circumstance that we ran things that way.
Until SBW' red card, we were up by a whole bunch in that 2nd test too.
And in the third we blew enough chances to win by 21.

All said & done, the trials and tribulations we're going through now is only a good thing. And it is Test rugby, I guess its not meant to be easy.

Crash

@westcoastie said in AB Test Team v France.:

This season we have too often tried to play too much rugby without earning the right. When we had the McCaws, Nonus and Smiths we could do that because the right had been earned just by them being there but without them and without BBBR, BFA, Whitelock etc we can't expect to run around everyone.

this.

We have to earn the right.
I'm a bit curious as to why the tactic to run everything from the #9 in the first BIL test was shelved so quickly because geezus that was effective.
Maybe we didn't want to continue to show that. Maybe it was just by circumstance that we ran things that way.
Until SBW' red card, we were up by a whole bunch in that 2nd test too.
And in the third we blew enough chances to win by 21.

All said & done, the trials and tribulations we're going through now is only a good thing. And it is Test rugby, I guess its not meant to be easy.

Probably because Gatland analysed and correctly identified that is exactly what we were doing.
However I agree completely, the hard direct runners coming off A Smith's shoulder worked a treat.
I would return to that - mix it up of course, but it was bloody effective.

The Silver Fern

AB Test Team v France.