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Things that annoy you about rugby...

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @majorrage said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

    Whatever happened to the halfbacks hands are on the ball, therefore it's out?

    I know it's previously been mentioned, but the epic rolls / taps / movements / replacements of the ball this weekend in all games by the scrum halves was bloody shocking.

    Quite ridiculous.

    This, again

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    @taniwharugby said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

    @majorrage said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

    Whatever happened to the halfbacks hands are on the ball, therefore it's out?

    I know it's previously been mentioned, but the epic rolls / taps / movements / replacements of the ball this weekend in all games by the scrum halves was bloody shocking.

    Quite ridiculous.

    This, again

    I third that statement. Can see why they now allow the 9 to get hands on and not be rushed but those cheeky 9s are just taking the piss. I reckon once you roll that ball it should be fair game.

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    • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

      @taniwharugby said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

      @majorrage said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

      Whatever happened to the halfbacks hands are on the ball, therefore it's out?

      I know it's previously been mentioned, but the epic rolls / taps / movements / replacements of the ball this weekend in all games by the scrum halves was bloody shocking.

      Quite ridiculous.

      This, again

      I third that statement. Can see why they now allow the 9 to get hands on and not be rushed but those cheeky 9s are just taking the piss. I reckon once you roll that ball it should be fair game.

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      @kiwipie or if you take your hands off, and then put them back on, you are fair game.

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        This does more than just annoy me - Jerome Garces making deals.

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        • TordahT Tordah

          @mariner4life said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

          I thought Barnes was really good today. He was enjoying himself, his communication was good, and did everything he could to let the players play.

          I think he was a bit impressed with Naholo's first finish

          We'll have to agree to disagree then, I thought he was horrendously inconsistent around the ruck and obstruction yesterday. Hate that cunty smirk, too

          Topic: Wyatt Crockett coming on after 55 minutes and starting to collapse the scrum and giving penalties away. Annoying.

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          @tordah said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

          We'll have to agree to disagree then, I thought he was horrendously inconsistent around the ruck and obstruction yesterday. Hate that cunty smirk, too

          The obstruction was a joke in this fixture. Barnes is blind as a ref. He's got no feel for rucks. His positioning sucks. It matters not that "he communicates well" when he's all over the place like a mad woman's shit because the players need consistency of interpretation and application.

          Whoever reviews him after Tests should be fired for obvious incompetence.

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            @tordah said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

            We'll have to agree to disagree then, I thought he was horrendously inconsistent around the ruck and obstruction yesterday. Hate that cunty smirk, too

            The obstruction was a joke in this fixture. Barnes is blind as a ref. He's got no feel for rucks. His positioning sucks. It matters not that "he communicates well" when he's all over the place like a mad woman's shit because the players need consistency of interpretation and application.

            Whoever reviews him after Tests should be fired for obvious incompetence.

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            @antipodean said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

            he's all over the place like a mad woman's shit

            I met a mad woman this morning - fortunately had nothing to do with her shit - but I did think of Wayne.

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              I am constantly annoyed that we don't win enough.

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                Something I noticed in both the NZ and the French games this weekend. Why is it that sometimes a try wipes out foul play. But other times it doesn't

                Naholos finish was awesome but that attempt at a tackle was a shoulder charge plain and simple and deserved at least a penalty restart at half way.

                Same thing France Japan, Basteraud hits a guy and ends up flipping him Japan score and they don't bother to go back to take a second look at that.

                Crazy.

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                  Something I noticed in both the NZ and the French games this weekend. Why is it that sometimes a try wipes out foul play. But other times it doesn't

                  Naholos finish was awesome but that attempt at a tackle was a shoulder charge plain and simple and deserved at least a penalty restart at half way.

                  Same thing France Japan, Basteraud hits a guy and ends up flipping him Japan score and they don't bother to go back to take a second look at that.

                  Crazy.

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                  @mooshld said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                  Something I noticed in both the NZ and the French games this weekend. Why is it that sometimes a try wipes out foul play. But other times it doesn't

                  Naholos finish was awesome but that attempt at a tackle was a shoulder charge plain and simple and deserved at least a penalty restart at half way.

                  Same thing France Japan, Basteraud hits a guy and ends up flipping him Japan score and they don't bother to go back to take a second look at that.

                  Crazy.

                  ^^ This. Compared to the RWC QF vs SA where we scored off a penalty advantage and Habana still got carded.

                  The officiating in general is just a shambles these days. Maybe I'm becoming a grumpy old man having turn ed 30 this year, but I swear it never used to be this bad. Puts you off watching.

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                  • TeWaioT TeWaio

                    @mooshld said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                    Something I noticed in both the NZ and the French games this weekend. Why is it that sometimes a try wipes out foul play. But other times it doesn't

                    Naholos finish was awesome but that attempt at a tackle was a shoulder charge plain and simple and deserved at least a penalty restart at half way.

                    Same thing France Japan, Basteraud hits a guy and ends up flipping him Japan score and they don't bother to go back to take a second look at that.

                    Crazy.

                    ^^ This. Compared to the RWC QF vs SA where we scored off a penalty advantage and Habana still got carded.

                    The officiating in general is just a shambles these days. Maybe I'm becoming a grumpy old man having turn ed 30 this year, but I swear it never used to be this bad. Puts you off watching.

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                    @tewaio said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                    @mooshld said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                    Something I noticed in both the NZ and the French games this weekend. Why is it that sometimes a try wipes out foul play. But other times it doesn't

                    Naholos finish was awesome but that attempt at a tackle was a shoulder charge plain and simple and deserved at least a penalty restart at half way.

                    Same thing France Japan, Basteraud hits a guy and ends up flipping him Japan score and they don't bother to go back to take a second look at that.

                    Crazy.

                    ^^ This. Compared to the RWC QF vs SA where we scored off a penalty advantage and Habana still got carded.

                    The officiating in general is just a shambles these days. Maybe I'm becoming a grumpy old man having turn ed 30 this year, but I swear it never used to be this bad. Puts you off watching.

                    The use of the TMO for endless slo-mo replays puts so much pressure on the reffing team that they get complete tunnel vision. Staring at the grounding/touchline and not seeing the obvious shoulder charge in the same picture.

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                      Another mild annoyance I have is the refusal for commentators to let stereotypes die.

                      The French no longer play with flair and haven't for nearly 20 years
                      The Argies have a competitive scrum but its nothing special.
                      The Aussies can scrum now the days of England pummeling them every scrum are over.

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                      • M mooshld

                        Another mild annoyance I have is the refusal for commentators to let stereotypes die.

                        The French no longer play with flair and haven't for nearly 20 years
                        The Argies have a competitive scrum but its nothing special.
                        The Aussies can scrum now the days of England pummeling them every scrum are over.

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                        @mooshld said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                        Another mild annoyance I have is the refusal for commentators to let stereotypes die.

                        The French no longer play with flair and haven't for nearly 20 years
                        The Argies have a competitive scrum but its nothing special.
                        The Aussies can scrum now the days of England pummeling them every scrum are over.

                        ...and the Phil Kearns cliche book of front row quips

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                          Players being allowed to roll when on the ground, preventing the player on his feet from playing the ball. Should be a penalty like it always used to be. but now you can roll, crawl and whatever you please and its play on. Here I thought rugby is a game played on your feet

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                            Players being allowed to roll when on the ground, preventing the player on his feet from playing the ball. Should be a penalty like it always used to be. but now you can roll, crawl and whatever you please and its play on. Here I thought rugby is a game played on your feet

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                            @rebound said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                            Players being allowed to roll when on the ground, preventing the player on his feet from playing the ball. Should be a penalty like it always used to be. but now you can roll, crawl and whatever you please and its play on. Here I thought rugby is a game played on your feet

                            Hate this so much along with this "not held" rubbish. If you're tackled and not held you should still have to release the ball before you get to your feet to continue. It would make it so much easier to ref. Its a no brainer.

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                              @rebound said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                              Players being allowed to roll when on the ground, preventing the player on his feet from playing the ball. Should be a penalty like it always used to be. but now you can roll, crawl and whatever you please and its play on. Here I thought rugby is a game played on your feet

                              Hate this so much along with this "not held" rubbish. If you're tackled and not held you should still have to release the ball before you get to your feet to continue. It would make it so much easier to ref. Its a no brainer.

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                              @mooshld said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                              @rebound said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                              Players being allowed to roll when on the ground, preventing the player on his feet from playing the ball. Should be a penalty like it always used to be. but now you can roll, crawl and whatever you please and its play on. Here I thought rugby is a game played on your feet

                              Hate this so much along with this "not held" rubbish. If you're tackled and not held you should still have to release the ball before you get to your feet to continue. It would make it so much easier to ref. Its a no brainer.

                              Or simply ref to the law. If a tackle has been made and your knee hits the ground it shouldn't mean you can get up and have another go. Most of these 'not held' calls are bullshit and you can see a clear moment when tackler is in contact with ball carrier and ball carrier is in contact with the ground off his feet.

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                                @antipodean said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                                he's all over the place like a mad woman's shit

                                I met a mad woman this morning - fortunately had nothing to do with her shit - but I did think of Wayne.

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                                  @antipodean said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                                  he's all over the place like a mad woman's shit

                                  I met a mad woman this morning - fortunately had nothing to do with her shit - but I did think of Wayne.

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                                  @snowy said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                                  @antipodean said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                                  he's all over the place like a mad woman's shit

                                  I met a mad woman this morning - fortunately had nothing to do with her shit - but I did think of Wayne.

                                  I meet one every day ... very first thing I do.

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                                    @mooshld said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                                    @rebound said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                                    Players being allowed to roll when on the ground, preventing the player on his feet from playing the ball. Should be a penalty like it always used to be. but now you can roll, crawl and whatever you please and its play on. Here I thought rugby is a game played on your feet

                                    Hate this so much along with this "not held" rubbish. If you're tackled and not held you should still have to release the ball before you get to your feet to continue. It would make it so much easier to ref. Its a no brainer.

                                    Or simply ref to the law. If a tackle has been made and your knee hits the ground it shouldn't mean you can get up and have another go. Most of these 'not held' calls are bullshit and you can see a clear moment when tackler is in contact with ball carrier and ball carrier is in contact with the ground off his feet.

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                                    @crucial said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                                    @mooshld said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                                    @rebound said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                                    Players being allowed to roll when on the ground, preventing the player on his feet from playing the ball. Should be a penalty like it always used to be. but now you can roll, crawl and whatever you please and its play on. Here I thought rugby is a game played on your feet

                                    Hate this so much along with this "not held" rubbish. If you're tackled and not held you should still have to release the ball before you get to your feet to continue. It would make it so much easier to ref. Its a no brainer.

                                    Or simply ref to the law. If a tackle has been made and your knee hits the ground it shouldn't mean you can get up and have another go. Most of these 'not held' calls are bullshit and you can see a clear moment when tackler is in contact with ball carrier and ball carrier is in contact with the ground off his feet.

                                    This by 1000

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                                      Pleading guilty to being an asshat somehow mitigates the stupid action you did in the first place and reduces your punishment.
                                      See Sekope Kepu. Serial fuckwittery that has somehow just escaped judiciary and a plea of 'yes I did it' provides a 50% discount on the sentence.
                                      Un fucking believable

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                                        Pleading guilty to being an asshat somehow mitigates the stupid action you did in the first place and reduces your punishment.
                                        See Sekope Kepu. Serial fuckwittery that has somehow just escaped judiciary and a plea of 'yes I did it' provides a 50% discount on the sentence.
                                        Un fucking believable

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                                        @crucial How can his previous disclipinary record be 'clean' when he just earlier this year got a ban for commiting three yellow card incidents in a short span?

                                        I can't remember what the offences were, but they had to be foul play, becouse Beauden got off the hook for his three yellows coming from repeated infringements or offsides.

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                                        • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                                          @taniwharugby said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                                          @majorrage said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                                          Whatever happened to the halfbacks hands are on the ball, therefore it's out?

                                          I know it's previously been mentioned, but the epic rolls / taps / movements / replacements of the ball this weekend in all games by the scrum halves was bloody shocking.

                                          Quite ridiculous.

                                          This, again

                                          I third that statement. Can see why they now allow the 9 to get hands on and not be rushed but those cheeky 9s are just taking the piss. I reckon once you roll that ball it should be fair game.

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                                          @kiwipie said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                                          @taniwharugby said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                                          @majorrage said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:

                                          Whatever happened to the halfbacks hands are on the ball, therefore it's out?

                                          I know it's previously been mentioned, but the epic rolls / taps / movements / replacements of the ball this weekend in all games by the scrum halves was bloody shocking.

                                          Quite ridiculous.

                                          This, again

                                          I third that statement. Can see why they now allow the 9 to get hands on and not be rushed but those cheeky 9s are just taking the piss. I reckon once you roll that ball it should be fair game.

                                          Honest question: if the ball is behind the last attackers' foot of a ruck just sitting there I can see nothing in the laws -- or the various 'clarifications' -- which indicates that it is still in the ruck. The ref's interpret the halfback as not being in possession (rolling or no rolling) until the ball is off the ground. So no sacking of halfback. But what is to stop a defending oppo player simply falling on the ball (once the ball is out it seem to me that the offside line ceases to exist)?

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