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Exodus 2018

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  • ShadowTrooperS ShadowTrooper

    Chiefs will miss Ngatai. Defo are already missing Cruds, TKB, Lowe, Leitch and this is only pre-season.

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    @shadowtrooper Have you got some of the good oil on that? 🙂

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      Chris Boyd.

      To coach Northampton for 3 seasons.

      😞

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      • Billy TellB Billy Tell

        Chris Boyd.

        To coach Northampton for 3 seasons.

        😞

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        @billy-tell Dammit! The chance was always there that he'd be leaving, but I was hoping it wouldn't happen so soon. I guess (= I hope) that Plumtree will now become the Hurricanes Head Coach.

        Media release Hurricanes: https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/the-canes/news/single/item/hurricanes-chris-boyd-to-take-up-new-role-in-england-at-end-of-2018-season/

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          I hate this time of the year. With all these shit announcements of players - and now also coaches - leaving!

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          • Billy TellB Offline
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            It’s depressing having Colin Cooper take over the Chiefs while our best coaches are overseas. Schmidt and Pivac would be two I’d be keen to see back in NZ.

            Hopefully Super Rugby is actually “Super” this year otherwise the SH could be all folded up and feeder status by 2020.

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            • Billy TellB Billy Tell

              It’s depressing having Colin Cooper take over the Chiefs while our best coaches are overseas. Schmidt and Pivac would be two I’d be keen to see back in NZ.

              Hopefully Super Rugby is actually “Super” this year otherwise the SH could be all folded up and feeder status by 2020.

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              @billy-tell

              You can make the same argument at the Highlanders. Mauger hasn't done anything to deserve a head coaching gig and Hammett is just recycled shit.

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                @billy-tell

                You can make the same argument at the Highlanders. Mauger hasn't done anything to deserve a head coaching gig and Hammett is just recycled shit.

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                @bovidae said in Exodus 2018:

                @billy-tell

                You can make the same argument at the Highlanders. Mauger hasn't done anything to deserve a head coaching gig and Hammett is just recycled shit.

                Not disagreeing. The problem in nz is that there is only 1 plum job and it’s been blocked since forever by Hansen. So the good coaches are offered €€€ and head overseas. The standard of European rugby has really improved, a lot of it down to nz coaches.

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                • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                  Chris Boyd.

                  To coach Northampton for 3 seasons.

                  😞

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                  @billy-tell said in Exodus 2018:

                  Chris Boyd.

                  To coach Northampton for 3 seasons.

                  😞

                  Aghhhhhh ass pump.

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                  • TimT Away
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                    Hmm ...

                    When asked if he had consulted anyone at All Black level about the move, Boyd surprisingly revealed: "I haven't spoken to Steve Hansen in three years so nothing changes in that space."

                    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11984528

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                    • mariner4lifeM Online
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                      yea, that seems plausible Chris

                      Also, what exactly should NZR do about only having one national team? And currently having a coach that loses once every couple of years?

                      It's cool, in your position i would take the offer too, no need to justify it any further than that.

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                        Bring back the Junior ABs!

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                        • KiwiMurphK Online
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                          This basically signals he doesn't think he's a shot at being the next ABs coach after 2019.

                          I wonder if the feeling is that Foster is basically a lock for the role?

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                            Bring back the Junior ABs!

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                            @tim I wish I could upvote that more than once!

                            It would be great if they let the JABs play the Pacific Nations Cup again; although the PNC now serves as a double for RWC qualfication. Or other credible opponents; I much more prefer the JABs as an AB development tool than the Maori ABs (and the Barbarians). If South Africa 'A', England 'A', Emerging Italy, Argentina XV etc etc can have games each year, then why not the JABs? Letting them regularly play the PI teams and the forementioned 'A' teams can only be good, can't it? I assume it doesn't happen for financial reasons? There's no reason why they can't have regular training sessions with the ABs, if separating fringe ABs from the first choice squad is a concern.

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                            • TimT Tim

                              Bring back the Junior ABs!

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                              @tim

                              Yep. Great idea!

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                This basically signals he doesn't think he's a shot at being the next ABs coach after 2019.

                                I wonder if the feeling is that Foster is basically a lock for the role?

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                                @kiwimurph said in Exodus 2018:

                                This basically signals he doesn't think he's a shot at being the next ABs coach after 2019.

                                I wonder if the feeling is that Foster is basically a lock for the role?

                                Boyd's comments are no different to any other coach who has left recently (e.g. Rennie, Joseph). But it does indicate that the Super coaches don't really have much say in the plans for the ABs each season. There is little or no compromise.

                                Unless NZR soften their stance on only selecting coaches from within the NZ rugby system for the ABs, and I think there has been suggestions they will in time, then a coach like Boyd needs to decide whether it is better to get an overseas coaching position and the better salary that comes with it, or stay in NZ with no guarantee of getting the AB job anyway.

                                It's not just Hansen, look how long Tew has been in charge of NZR now.

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                                  Couple of journos at Chiefs training today have confirmation from Charlie Ngatai that he'll be leaving NZ rugby at the end of the season. Can't confirm the French club until contract is finalised.

                                  Farewell Prince of Centres. A true All Black great. Who'll fill the massive void in the All Black midfield now?

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                                  • WurzelW Wurzel

                                    Couple of journos at Chiefs training today have confirmation from Charlie Ngatai that he'll be leaving NZ rugby at the end of the season. Can't confirm the French club until contract is finalised.

                                    Farewell Prince of Centres. A true All Black great. Who'll fill the massive void in the All Black midfield now?

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                                    @wurzel An All Black great? With one cap, hmm. An All Black could-have-been-great more likely. Oh, damn, that wasn't meant serioulsy, was it? I always fall for it without emojis.

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                                    • WurzelW Wurzel

                                      Couple of journos at Chiefs training today have confirmation from Charlie Ngatai that he'll be leaving NZ rugby at the end of the season. Can't confirm the French club until contract is finalised.

                                      Farewell Prince of Centres. A true All Black great. Who'll fill the massive void in the All Black midfield now?

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                                      @wurzel said in Exodus 2018:

                                      Couple of journos at Chiefs training today have confirmation from Charlie Ngatai that he'll be leaving NZ rugby at the end of the season. Can't confirm the French club until contract is finalised.

                                      Farewell Prince of Centres. A true All Black great. Who'll fill the massive void in the All Black midfield now?

                                      Your sarcasm is a day late, we did this yesterday.

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @wurzel said in Exodus 2018:

                                        Couple of journos at Chiefs training today have confirmation from Charlie Ngatai that he'll be leaving NZ rugby at the end of the season. Can't confirm the French club until contract is finalised.

                                        Farewell Prince of Centres. A true All Black great. Who'll fill the massive void in the All Black midfield now?

                                        Your sarcasm is a day late, we did this yesterday.

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                                        @nepia Tough day for you no doubt realising you're going to have to spend the rest of life defending McAlister and now Ngatai across both forums.

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                                        • WurzelW Wurzel

                                          @nepia Tough day for you no doubt realising you're going to have to spend the rest of life defending McAlister and now Ngatai across both forums.

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                                          @wurzel said in Exodus 2018:

                                          @nepia Tough day for you no doubt realising you're going to have to spend the rest of life defending McAlister and now Ngatai across both forums.

                                          Don’t forget James Lowe and Hika Elliot

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