Exodus 2018

Billy Tell

@bovidae said in Exodus 2018:

@billy-tell

You can make the same argument at the Highlanders. Mauger hasn't done anything to deserve a head coaching gig and Hammett is just recycled shit.

Not disagreeing. The problem in nz is that there is only 1 plum job and it’s been blocked since forever by Hansen. So the good coaches are offered €€€ and head overseas. The standard of European rugby has really improved, a lot of it down to nz coaches.

Rancid Schnitzel

@billy-tell said in Exodus 2018:

Chris Boyd.

To coach Northampton for 3 seasons.

Aghhhhhh ass pump.

Tim

Hmm ...

When asked if he had consulted anyone at All Black level about the move, Boyd surprisingly revealed: "I haven't spoken to Steve Hansen in three years so nothing changes in that space."

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11984528

mariner4life

yea, that seems plausible Chris

Also, what exactly should NZR do about only having one national team? And currently having a coach that loses once every couple of years?

It's cool, in your position i would take the offer too, no need to justify it any further than that.

Tim

Bring back the Junior ABs!

KiwiMurph

This basically signals he doesn't think he's a shot at being the next ABs coach after 2019.

I wonder if the feeling is that Foster is basically a lock for the role?

Stargazer

@tim I wish I could upvote that more than once!

It would be great if they let the JABs play the Pacific Nations Cup again; although the PNC now serves as a double for RWC qualfication. Or other credible opponents; I much more prefer the JABs as an AB development tool than the Maori ABs (and the Barbarians). If South Africa 'A', England 'A', Emerging Italy, Argentina XV etc etc can have games each year, then why not the JABs? Letting them regularly play the PI teams and the forementioned 'A' teams can only be good, can't it? I assume it doesn't happen for financial reasons? There's no reason why they can't have regular training sessions with the ABs, if separating fringe ABs from the first choice squad is a concern.

ARHS

@tim

Yep. Great idea!

Bovidae

@kiwimurph said in Exodus 2018:

This basically signals he doesn't think he's a shot at being the next ABs coach after 2019.

I wonder if the feeling is that Foster is basically a lock for the role?

Boyd's comments are no different to any other coach who has left recently (e.g. Rennie, Joseph). But it does indicate that the Super coaches don't really have much say in the plans for the ABs each season. There is little or no compromise.

Unless NZR soften their stance on only selecting coaches from within the NZ rugby system for the ABs, and I think there has been suggestions they will in time, then a coach like Boyd needs to decide whether it is better to get an overseas coaching position and the better salary that comes with it, or stay in NZ with no guarantee of getting the AB job anyway.

It's not just Hansen, look how long Tew has been in charge of NZR now.

Wurzel

Couple of journos at Chiefs training today have confirmation from Charlie Ngatai that he'll be leaving NZ rugby at the end of the season. Can't confirm the French club until contract is finalised.

Farewell Prince of Centres. A true All Black great. Who'll fill the massive void in the All Black midfield now?

Stargazer

@wurzel An All Black great? With one cap, hmm. An All Black could-have-been-great more likely. Oh, damn, that wasn't meant serioulsy, was it? I always fall for it without emojis.

Nepia

@wurzel said in Exodus 2018:

Couple of journos at Chiefs training today have confirmation from Charlie Ngatai that he'll be leaving NZ rugby at the end of the season. Can't confirm the French club until contract is finalised.

Farewell Prince of Centres. A true All Black great. Who'll fill the massive void in the All Black midfield now?

Your sarcasm is a day late, we did this yesterday.

Wurzel

@nepia Tough day for you no doubt realising you're going to have to spend the rest of life defending McAlister and now Ngatai across both forums.

SammyC

@wurzel said in Exodus 2018:

@nepia Tough day for you no doubt realising you're going to have to spend the rest of life defending McAlister and now Ngatai across both forums.

Don’t forget James Lowe and Hika Elliot

Nepia

@wurzel said in Exodus 2018:

@nepia Tough day for you no doubt realising you're going to have to spend the rest of life defending McAlister and now Ngatai across both forums.

Why would Ngatai need defending? As noted yesterday he's a dead set AB legend.

Nepia

@sammyc You guys are getting pathetic now (considering how quickly the wagons circle in your neck of the woods ;)), anyway, I was defending Justin Marshall the other day (can't remember the context, but I'm assuming it wasn't for commentating).

mariner4life

well well, the Crusaders win one (forgettable) title in a decade, and out come the Crusaders fans, like cockroaches after you turn the lights out. Sad.

SammyC

@mariner4life said in Exodus 2018:

well well, the Crusaders win one (forgettable) title in a decade, and out come the Crusaders fans, like cockroaches after you turn the lights out. Sad.

Seriously? one small dig at nepia and you ride in like a knight in shining armour to reprimand everyone involved like a primary school headmaster.

I’ve hardly commented on the crusaders since we won the title. I was a shitload more vocal when we were losing.

What’s really sad is the constant wanking over Ngatai for the past 2 seasons that he’s hardly played.

mariner4life

hey @SammyC you should definitely keep taking everything on the Fern super serious

Chris B.

@mariner4life said in Exodus 2018:

well well, the Crusaders win one (forgettable) title in a decade, and out come the Crusaders fans, like cockroaches after you turn the lights out. Sad.

We've gone way too easy on you fuckers!

The Silver Fern

Exodus 2018