AB's v Wales
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@tim thought it had been confirmed he was unavailable??
@taniwharugby Yep, but what are the details, and how long will be out?
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@mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:
@crucial said in AB's v Wales:
I see that the stadium management at Cardiff are asking people to arrive 2 hours before kick off so they can process everyone through security.
Apparently at the Oz game punters missed half the game.
Funny, because at Edinburgh there was no searching done at all. Easy in, easy out.It was always a badge of honour / selling point that pub to seat took about 15 mins.
In light of the stadium attacks around the world and British Royals in attendance, adequate security measures seem sensible to me.
What stadium attacks?
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@taniwharugby Yep, but what are the details, and how long will be out?
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@mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:
@crucial said in AB's v Wales:
I see that the stadium management at Cardiff are asking people to arrive 2 hours before kick off so they can process everyone through security.
Apparently at the Oz game punters missed half the game.
Funny, because at Edinburgh there was no searching done at all. Easy in, easy out.It was always a badge of honour / selling point that pub to seat took about 15 mins.
In light of the stadium attacks around the world and British Royals in attendance, adequate security measures seem sensible to me.
What stadium attacks?
@crucial said in AB's v Wales:
@mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:
@crucial said in AB's v Wales:
I see that the stadium management at Cardiff are asking people to arrive 2 hours before kick off so they can process everyone through security.
Apparently at the Oz game punters missed half the game.
Funny, because at Edinburgh there was no searching done at all. Easy in, easy out.It was always a badge of honour / selling point that pub to seat took about 15 mins.
In light of the stadium attacks around the world and British Royals in attendance, adequate security measures seem sensible to me.
What stadium attacks?
Couple in the US, Manchester, Paris
How many more do you want?
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@taniwharugby Yep, but what are the details, and how long will be out?
@tim said in AB's v Wales:
@taniwharugby Yep, but what are the details, and how long will be out?
Have had that injury: rotator cuff tear. He won't be able to do any pressing exercises for a month or two and will have to rehab with targeted rotator cuff exercises. Key is to protect injury whilst it's healing.
The $64,000 question is how bad the tear is. Based on my experience one can get back most of the strength (e.g. bench and shoulder presses) over six months without an operation. However, I've been left with significant weakness in a particular range of movement (opening a stiff umbrella can be tricky), so depending on severity there would be an argument for surgery, which would mean out for three to six months, but then ought to be completely right.
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@crucial said in AB's v Wales:
@mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:
@crucial said in AB's v Wales:
I see that the stadium management at Cardiff are asking people to arrive 2 hours before kick off so they can process everyone through security.
Apparently at the Oz game punters missed half the game.
Funny, because at Edinburgh there was no searching done at all. Easy in, easy out.It was always a badge of honour / selling point that pub to seat took about 15 mins.
In light of the stadium attacks around the world and British Royals in attendance, adequate security measures seem sensible to me.
What stadium attacks?
Couple in the US, Manchester, Paris
How many more do you want?
@mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:
@crucial said in AB's v Wales:
@mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:
@crucial said in AB's v Wales:
I see that the stadium management at Cardiff are asking people to arrive 2 hours before kick off so they can process everyone through security.
Apparently at the Oz game punters missed half the game.
Funny, because at Edinburgh there was no searching done at all. Easy in, easy out.It was always a badge of honour / selling point that pub to seat took about 15 mins.
In light of the stadium attacks around the world and British Royals in attendance, adequate security measures seem sensible to me.
What stadium attacks?
Couple in the US, Manchester, Paris
How many more do you want?
I concede that I forgot that Paris involved someone trying to get into the ground with something.
I just think that on balance, 100s of 1000s of people attend sports and group events every day. The risk level doesn't need to be mitigated so far as to impede people from actually getting in IMO. Another example of shitbags actually winning by eroding our way of life.
Even airport security realised fairly quickly that there needs to be a risk balance. Intelligence and targeted searching rather than monkeys searching everyone. -
@mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:
@crucial said in AB's v Wales:
@mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:
@crucial said in AB's v Wales:
I see that the stadium management at Cardiff are asking people to arrive 2 hours before kick off so they can process everyone through security.
Apparently at the Oz game punters missed half the game.
Funny, because at Edinburgh there was no searching done at all. Easy in, easy out.It was always a badge of honour / selling point that pub to seat took about 15 mins.
In light of the stadium attacks around the world and British Royals in attendance, adequate security measures seem sensible to me.
What stadium attacks?
Couple in the US, Manchester, Paris
How many more do you want?
I concede that I forgot that Paris involved someone trying to get into the ground with something.
I just think that on balance, 100s of 1000s of people attend sports and group events every day. The risk level doesn't need to be mitigated so far as to impede people from actually getting in IMO. Another example of shitbags actually winning by eroding our way of life.
Even airport security realised fairly quickly that there needs to be a risk balance. Intelligence and targeted searching rather than monkeys searching everyone.@crucial said in AB's v Wales:
@mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:
@crucial said in AB's v Wales:
@mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:
@crucial said in AB's v Wales:
I see that the stadium management at Cardiff are asking people to arrive 2 hours before kick off so they can process everyone through security.
Apparently at the Oz game punters missed half the game.
Funny, because at Edinburgh there was no searching done at all. Easy in, easy out.It was always a badge of honour / selling point that pub to seat took about 15 mins.
In light of the stadium attacks around the world and British Royals in attendance, adequate security measures seem sensible to me.
What stadium attacks?
Couple in the US, Manchester, Paris
How many more do you want?
... Another example of shitbags actually winning by eroding our way of life.
Even airport security realised fairly quickly that there needs to be a risk balance. Intelligence and targeted searching rather than monkeys searching everyone.This is so right. If it becomes something of a tick box exercise the level of vigilance is bound to drop. We were "searched" on entering Twickenham last week and to a man the searchers were just going through the motions. Just a cursory swipe of everyone's coats. Despite this lackadaisical attitude the process still took time and pissed people off.
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Checks watch. 10am UK time
Checks calendar. Thursday
Genuine question: when is the team named?
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WALES TEAM TO PLAY NEW ZEALAND
(Saturday 25 November KO 17.15)Leigh Halfpenny (Scarlets) (72 Caps)
Hallam Amos (Dragons) (13 Caps)
Scott Williams (Scarlets) (49 Caps)
Owen Williams (Gloucester) (2 Caps)
Steff Evans (Scarlets) (3 Caps)
Dan Biggar (Ospreys) (58 Caps)
Rhys Webb (Ospreys) (29 Caps);- Rob Evans (Scarlets) (18 Caps)
- Ken Owens (Scarlets) (51 Caps)
- Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs) (25 Caps)
- Jake Ball (Scarlets) (27 Caps)
- Alun Wyn Jones (CAPT) (Ospreys) (111 Caps)
- Aaron Shingler (Scarlets) (11 Caps)
- Josh Navidi (Cardiff Blues) (5 Caps)
- Taulupe Faletau (Bath) (68 Caps)
REPLACEMENTS:
16. Kristian Dacey (Cardiff Blues) (6 Caps)
17. Wyn Jones (Scarlets) (3 Caps)
18. Leon Brown (Dragons) (2 Caps)
19. Cory Hill (Dragons) (8 Caps)
20. Justin Tipuric (Ospreys) (51 Caps)
21. Gareth Davies (Scarlets) (26 Caps)
22. Rhys Priestland (Bath) (49 Caps)
23. Jamie Roberts (Harlequins) (93 Caps)Best we can do I guess considering the squad and injuries.
Would have had Watkin instead of Roberts.
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WALES TEAM TO PLAY NEW ZEALAND
(Saturday 25 November KO 17.15)Leigh Halfpenny (Scarlets) (72 Caps)
Hallam Amos (Dragons) (13 Caps)
Scott Williams (Scarlets) (49 Caps)
Owen Williams (Gloucester) (2 Caps)
Steff Evans (Scarlets) (3 Caps)
Dan Biggar (Ospreys) (58 Caps)
Rhys Webb (Ospreys) (29 Caps);- Rob Evans (Scarlets) (18 Caps)
- Ken Owens (Scarlets) (51 Caps)
- Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs) (25 Caps)
- Jake Ball (Scarlets) (27 Caps)
- Alun Wyn Jones (CAPT) (Ospreys) (111 Caps)
- Aaron Shingler (Scarlets) (11 Caps)
- Josh Navidi (Cardiff Blues) (5 Caps)
- Taulupe Faletau (Bath) (68 Caps)
REPLACEMENTS:
16. Kristian Dacey (Cardiff Blues) (6 Caps)
17. Wyn Jones (Scarlets) (3 Caps)
18. Leon Brown (Dragons) (2 Caps)
19. Cory Hill (Dragons) (8 Caps)
20. Justin Tipuric (Ospreys) (51 Caps)
21. Gareth Davies (Scarlets) (26 Caps)
22. Rhys Priestland (Bath) (49 Caps)
23. Jamie Roberts (Harlequins) (93 Caps)Best we can do I guess considering the squad and injuries.
Would have had Watkin instead of Roberts.
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@mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:
@crucial said in AB's v Wales:
@mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:
@crucial said in AB's v Wales:
I see that the stadium management at Cardiff are asking people to arrive 2 hours before kick off so they can process everyone through security.
Apparently at the Oz game punters missed half the game.
Funny, because at Edinburgh there was no searching done at all. Easy in, easy out.It was always a badge of honour / selling point that pub to seat took about 15 mins.
In light of the stadium attacks around the world and British Royals in attendance, adequate security measures seem sensible to me.
What stadium attacks?
Couple in the US, Manchester, Paris
How many more do you want?
I concede that I forgot that Paris involved someone trying to get into the ground with something.
I just think that on balance, 100s of 1000s of people attend sports and group events every day. The risk level doesn't need to be mitigated so far as to impede people from actually getting in IMO. Another example of shitbags actually winning by eroding our way of life.
Even airport security realised fairly quickly that there needs to be a risk balance. Intelligence and targeted searching rather than monkeys searching everyone.@crucial said in AB's v Wales:
@mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:
@crucial said in AB's v Wales:
@mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:
@crucial said in AB's v Wales:
I see that the stadium management at Cardiff are asking people to arrive 2 hours before kick off so they can process everyone through security.
Apparently at the Oz game punters missed half the game.
Funny, because at Edinburgh there was no searching done at all. Easy in, easy out.It was always a badge of honour / selling point that pub to seat took about 15 mins.
In light of the stadium attacks around the world and British Royals in attendance, adequate security measures seem sensible to me.
What stadium attacks?
Couple in the US, Manchester, Paris
How many more do you want?
I concede that I forgot that Paris involved someone trying to get into the ground with something.
I just think that on balance, 100s of 1000s of people attend sports and group events every day. The risk level doesn't need to be mitigated so far as to impede people from actually getting in IMO. Another example of shitbags actually winning by eroding our way of life.
Even airport security realised fairly quickly that there needs to be a risk balance. Intelligence and targeted searching rather than monkeys searching everyone.It's a combination of a number of things I think
Heightened security when quite fankly there was almost zero in the past
A different crowd coming to the matches - more drunkeness, trying to bring drinks in, not knowing the layout of the stadium
And it's a bit like the school run. We all know when school starts and we all know how long it takes us to get there when it's busy, but today there'll be no crowds and I'll just waltz in.
Uh wrong
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@mikethesnow If you want the numbers in front of every player, just add them but remove the dot everywhere.
@stargazer said in AB's v Wales:
@mikethesnow If you want the numbers in front of every player, just add them but remove the dot everywhere.
Cheers
Just copied and pasted
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@crucial said in AB's v Wales:
@mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:
@crucial said in AB's v Wales:
@mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:
@crucial said in AB's v Wales:
I see that the stadium management at Cardiff are asking people to arrive 2 hours before kick off so they can process everyone through security.
Apparently at the Oz game punters missed half the game.
Funny, because at Edinburgh there was no searching done at all. Easy in, easy out.It was always a badge of honour / selling point that pub to seat took about 15 mins.
In light of the stadium attacks around the world and British Royals in attendance, adequate security measures seem sensible to me.
What stadium attacks?
Couple in the US, Manchester, Paris
How many more do you want?
I concede that I forgot that Paris involved someone trying to get into the ground with something.
I just think that on balance, 100s of 1000s of people attend sports and group events every day. The risk level doesn't need to be mitigated so far as to impede people from actually getting in IMO. Another example of shitbags actually winning by eroding our way of life.
Even airport security realised fairly quickly that there needs to be a risk balance. Intelligence and targeted searching rather than monkeys searching everyone.It's a combination of a number of things I think
Heightened security when quite fankly there was almost zero in the past
A different crowd coming to the matches - more drunkeness, trying to bring drinks in, not knowing the layout of the stadium
And it's a bit like the school run. We all know when school starts and we all know how long it takes us to get there when it's busy, but today there'll be no crowds and I'll just waltz in.
Uh wrong
@mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:
@crucial said in AB's v Wales:
@mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:
@crucial said in AB's v Wales:
@mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:
@crucial said in AB's v Wales:
I see that the stadium management at Cardiff are asking people to arrive 2 hours before kick off so they can process everyone through security.
Apparently at the Oz game punters missed half the game.
Funny, because at Edinburgh there was no searching done at all. Easy in, easy out.It was always a badge of honour / selling point that pub to seat took about 15 mins.
In light of the stadium attacks around the world and British Royals in attendance, adequate security measures seem sensible to me.
What stadium attacks?
Couple in the US, Manchester, Paris
How many more do you want?
I concede that I forgot that Paris involved someone trying to get into the ground with something.
I just think that on balance, 100s of 1000s of people attend sports and group events every day. The risk level doesn't need to be mitigated so far as to impede people from actually getting in IMO. Another example of shitbags actually winning by eroding our way of life.
Even airport security realised fairly quickly that there needs to be a risk balance. Intelligence and targeted searching rather than monkeys searching everyone.It's a combination of a number of things I think
Heightened security when quite fankly there was almost zero in the past
A different crowd coming to the matches - more drunkeness, trying to bring drinks in, not knowing the layout of the stadium
And it's a bit like the school run. We all know when school starts and we all know how long it takes us to get there when it's busy, but today there'll be no crowds and I'll just waltz in.
Uh wrong
All I can say is that is is a massive achievement for the Welsh if they are surpassing Scots levels of drinking.
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Team I'd LIKE to see:
Hames
Taylor
Laulala
Whitelock
Patty T
Squire
Cane
Ioane (A)
Smith
Sopoaga
Naholo
Crotty
SBW
Seta T
Barrett (B)Bench:
Ofa
Harris
JTA
Barrett (S)
Todd
TJP
Albie
DMacLike to see how BB goes starting at 15, and likewise tempo of top backline with Lima in control.
Power lock to start.
Would also like to see Akira in top team against good oppo.
Sufficient interchangeability in loosies that one ought to cover tactical requirements.But looking forward to same old at 5 p.m.!
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ALL BLACKS: Damian McKenzie, Waisake Naholo, Ryan Crotty, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith; Luke Whitelock, Sam Cane, Liam Squire, Sam Whitelock (capt), Patrick Tuipulotu, Nepo Laulala, Codie Taylor, Kane Hames. Reserves: Nathan Harris, Wyatt Crockett, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Scott Barrett, Matt Todd, TJ Perenara, Lima Sopoaga, Anton Lienert-Brown.
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ALL BLACKS: Damian McKenzie, Waisake Naholo, Ryan Crotty, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith; Luke Whitelock, Sam Cane, Liam Squire, Sam Whitelock (capt), Patrick Tuipulotu, Nepo Laulala, Codie Taylor, Kane Hames. Reserves: Nathan Harris, Wyatt Crockett, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Scott Barrett, Matt Todd, TJ Perenara, Lima Sopoaga, Anton Lienert-Brown.
@wurzel said in AB's v Wales:
ALL BLACKS: Damian McKenzie, Waisake Naholo, Ryan Crotty, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith; Luke Whitelock, Sam Cane, Liam Squire, Sam Whitelock (capt), Patrick Tuipulotu, Nepo Laulala, Codie Taylor, Kane Hames. Reserves: Nathan Harris, Wyatt Crockett, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Scott Barrett, Matt Todd, TJ Perenara, Lima Sopoaga, Anton Lienert-Brown.
Given the availability situation that is probably the best we can trot out.
